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Pat Buchanan: Is America still a nation?

In the first line of the Declaration of Independence of July...
Maniacal Ape
  07/04/17
Moreover, I advise that the Immigration Act of 1924 must be ...
Pink Volcanic Crater School Cafeteria
  07/07/17
to the founding fathers, the Germanic and Irish hordes were ...
iridescent excitant associate
  07/04/17
indeed. but what do you expect when you steal the Red Man's ...
Maniacal Ape
  07/04/17
america is now a nation of jews, and their slaves.
hot degenerate
  07/04/17
oh hai setsein
Maniacal Ape
  07/04/17
he taught me much. he opened my eyes. i think of him as my s...
hot degenerate
  07/04/17
(totally well-adjusted guy ranting against jews at 4 in the ...
Maniacal Ape
  07/04/17
the force works in mysterious ways.
hot degenerate
  07/04/17
we are probably dun here. i will be posting hbd autism tweet...
iridescent excitant associate
  07/04/17
He's a brutally autistic gook that spams cookie cutter argum...
Drab Trip Mother
  07/07/17
the anti-german stuff was just anglo chauvinism, but the iri...
Obsidian Beta Skinny Woman
  07/04/17
which is why Patrick Joseph Buchanan raving about it is pret...
Fluffy Exhilarant Hell Shitlib
  07/04/17
did they integrate into the established american society?
lime love of her life roast beef
  07/04/17
tbf they were
Apoplectic dragon
  07/04/17
They also didn't let gods chosen people into their country c...
Drab Trip Mother
  07/07/17
At the time of the FF the Irish hordes had yet to descend up...
aromatic background story church
  07/07/17
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milky sound barrier
  07/04/17
Pat Buchanan is such an old racist faggot
spectacular salmon tattoo
  07/04/17
(Slaves away for a nation his kin built as it becomes increa...
Talented azure lay
  07/04/17
Little Buchanans have existed in every era. Know Nothing Par...
spectacular salmon tattoo
  07/04/17
have you ever read the naturalization act of 1790? if you'r...
Hairraiser flushed spot depressive
  07/04/17
Slaves don't look up from their labor except for the occasio...
Talented azure lay
  07/04/17
I.e. 100% on point about everything agreed
carnelian bearded pocket flask station
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Vigorous Frum Cuckold
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Drab Trip Mother
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(Turbocuck trying to fuck fat tindersloots while his country...
angry aphrodisiac state
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Charcoal mind-boggling selfie
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lavender orchestra pit
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Orange swollen shrine trump supporter
  07/04/17
civilizations rise and fall with the tide of history
Haunting passionate trailer park
  07/04/17
it never really was a nation...it was an empire illegally co...
Walnut fat ankles
  07/04/17
Cr
Buff Senate
  07/04/17
(Emperor of South Carolina)
indecent opaque cuck
  07/04/17
Illegally!!!
Vigorous Frum Cuckold
  07/04/17
It was never a nation. It was always just an ongoing concern...
Irradiated Clear Tanning Salon Mexican
  07/04/17
...
Walnut fat ankles
  07/04/17
so? free market >>>>> "nations" ...
embarrassed to the bone swashbuckling forum juggernaut
  07/04/17
but they don't have to work as hard or go into as much debt ...
Walnut fat ankles
  07/04/17
on average that is true, but America offers you both opportu...
embarrassed to the bone swashbuckling forum juggernaut
  07/04/17
no, they put you in jail if you try to build a cheap house.....
Walnut fat ankles
  07/04/17
You and all yours will be extinct and forgotten. They will b...
Irradiated Clear Tanning Salon Mexican
  07/04/17
the elites prob. identify more with the elites of other coun...
Haunting passionate trailer park
  07/04/17
CR. Christopher Lasch's "Revolt of the Elites" wri...
slap-happy box office
  07/04/17
not even probably - more like "openly and proudly"
Aqua Supple Stead
  07/07/17
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Drab Trip Mother
  07/07/17
heh the italians and irish assimilated fine! (goober who thi...
Apoplectic dragon
  07/04/17
family bump
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Date: July 4th, 2017 4:30 AM
Author: Maniacal Ape

In the first line of the Declaration of Independence of July 4, 1776, Thomas Jefferson speaks of “one people.” The Constitution, agreed upon by the Founding Fathers in Philadelphia in 1789, begins, “We the people …”

And who were these “people”?

In Federalist No. 2, John Jay writes of them as “one united people … descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs. …”

If such are the elements of nationhood and peoplehood, can we still speak of Americans as one nation and one people?

We no longer have the same ancestors. They are of every color and from every country. We do not speak one language, but rather English, Spanish and a host of others. We long ago ceased to profess the same religion. We are evangelical Christians, mainstream Protestants, Catholics, Jews, Mormons, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists, agnostics and atheists.

Federalist No. 2 celebrated our unity. Today’s elites proclaim that our diversity is our strength. But is this true, or a tenet of trendy ideology?

After the attempted massacre of Republican congressmen at that ball field in Alexandria, Fareed Zakaria wrote: “The political polarization that is ripping this country apart” is about “identity … gender, race, ethnicity, sexual orientation (and) social class.” He might have added – religion, morality, culture and history.

Zakaria seems to be tracing the disintegration of our society to that very diversity that its elites proclaim to be its greatest attribute: “If the core issues are about identity, culture and religion … then compromise seems immoral. American politics is becoming more like Middle Eastern politics, where there is no middle ground between being Sunni or Shiite.”...

With this July 4 long weekend, many writers have bewailed the animus Americans exhibit toward one another and urged new efforts to reunite us. Yet, recall again those first words of Jefferson in 1776:

“When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them …”

Are we approaching such a point? Could the Constitution, as currently interpreted, win the approval of two-thirds of our citizens and three-fourth of our states, if it were not already the supreme law of the land? How would a national referendum on the Constitution turn out, when many Americans are already seeking a new constitutional convention?

All of which invites the question: Are we still a nation? And what is a nation? French writer Ernest Renan gave us the answer in the 19th century:

“A nation is a soul, a spiritual principle. Two things … constitute this soul, this spiritual principle. One is the past, the other is the present. One is the possession in common of a rich legacy of memories; the other is present consent, the desire to live together, the desire to continue to invest in the heritage that we have jointly received.

“Of all cults, that of the ancestors is the most legitimate: our ancestors have made us what we are. A heroic past with great men and glory … is the social capital upon which the national idea rests. These are the essential conditions of being a people: having common glories in the past and a will to continue them in the present; having made great things together and wishing to make them again.”

Does this sound at all like us today?

Watching our Lilliputians tearing down statues and monuments, renaming buildings and streets, rewriting history books to replace heroes and historical truths with the doings of ciphers, are we disassembling the nation we once were?

“One loves in proportion to the sacrifices that one has committed and the troubles that one has suffered,” writes Renan, “One loves the house that one has built and that one passes on.”

Are we passing on the house we inherited – or observing its demolition?

Happy Fourth. And God bless the USA.

http://www.wnd.com/2017/07/is-america-still-a-nation/print/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33700021)



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Date: July 7th, 2017 1:00 PM
Author: Pink Volcanic Crater School Cafeteria

Moreover, I advise that the Immigration Act of 1924 must be restored!

Carthago delenda est.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33722452)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 4:38 AM
Author: iridescent excitant associate

to the founding fathers, the Germanic and Irish hordes were uncivilized invaders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33700030)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 4:39 AM
Author: Maniacal Ape

indeed. but what do you expect when you steal the Red Man's land and pass it off as your own?

that article was devastating. a truly sad summation of the complete absence of an american people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33700031)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 4:41 AM
Author: hot degenerate

america is now a nation of jews, and their slaves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33700033)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 4:43 AM
Author: Maniacal Ape

oh hai setsein

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33700036)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 4:46 AM
Author: hot degenerate

he taught me much. he opened my eyes. i think of him as my sith lord and i his apprentice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33700038)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 4:47 AM
Author: Maniacal Ape

(totally well-adjusted guy ranting against jews at 4 in the morning on a jew-owned tinderblog)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33700039)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 4:48 AM
Author: hot degenerate

the force works in mysterious ways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33700040)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 4:53 AM
Author: iridescent excitant associate

we are probably dun here. i will be posting hbd autism tweets until they ban me

are you saying our destruction is sort of like a native american curse? i don't get the red man line

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33700046)



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Date: July 7th, 2017 1:06 PM
Author: Drab Trip Mother

He's a brutally autistic gook that spams cookie cutter arguments

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33722485)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 5:28 AM
Author: Obsidian Beta Skinny Woman

the anti-german stuff was just anglo chauvinism, but the irish were TRULY savage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33700066)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 2:47 PM
Author: Fluffy Exhilarant Hell Shitlib

which is why Patrick Joseph Buchanan raving about it is pretty lulzy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33701755)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 3:58 PM
Author: lime love of her life roast beef

did they integrate into the established american society?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33702145)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 7:50 PM
Author: Apoplectic dragon

tbf they were

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33703237)



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Date: July 7th, 2017 1:03 PM
Author: Drab Trip Mother

They also didn't let gods chosen people into their country clubs it's like super fucked up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33722465)



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Date: July 7th, 2017 1:23 PM
Author: aromatic background story church

At the time of the FF the Irish hordes had yet to descend upon America. Most of the Irish were Scots Irish and Protestant. The handful of Irish Catholics were not regarded as a threat and at least one of the signers was a very Irish Catholic: Charles Carroll, who was also one of the richest men in America. The waves of starving Catholic Irish peasants didn't start until half a century later.

The Germans had already been immigrating to America in sizeable numbers for a century as the German communities in Pennsylvania and central Maryland can tell you. As a whole the German communities were pacifists and remained neutral during the Revolutionary War but quite a few still fought for the independence. They were regarded as a thrifty and hard working people and probably the closest comparison today would be the Asian Americans. As you can infer, while there was some suspicion, on the whole they assimilated very well, a pattern that continued with the vast waves of German immigrants in the 19th century. The religious Germans like the Amish retreated into their communities but posed no threat to the status quo and accepted the laws of the land and were far better behaved than many of the Anglos, especially Scots Irish settlers.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33722571)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 2:35 PM
Author: milky sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33701702)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 2:36 PM
Author: spectacular salmon tattoo

Pat Buchanan is such an old racist faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33701712)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 2:38 PM
Author: Talented azure lay

(Slaves away for a nation his kin built as it becomes increasingly hostile and foreign to him)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33701722)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 2:45 PM
Author: spectacular salmon tattoo

Little Buchanans have existed in every era. Know Nothing Party and all that. It's lol that people like him cherry pick some founder's words and act like "one race, one religion" is some kind of central belief to being American. That probably wouldn't have even been a majority belief at the time of founding. He's nothing more than the weirdo on the street corner shouting the one random verse from the Bible for whatever niche shit he's got going that he's made the driving force in every aspect of his belief.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33701747)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 3:52 PM
Author: Hairraiser flushed spot depressive

have you ever read the naturalization act of 1790? if you're going to make claims about what the country was "founded upon," you should at least be familiar with founding legislation like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33702113)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 4:04 PM
Author: Talented azure lay

Slaves don't look up from their labor except for the occasional word from their masters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33702177)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: carnelian bearded pocket flask station

I.e. 100% on point about everything agreed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33701732)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 7:48 PM
Author: Vigorous Frum Cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33703230)



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Date: July 7th, 2017 1:03 PM
Author: Drab Trip Mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33722468)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 6:41 PM
Author: angry aphrodisiac state

(Turbocuck trying to fuck fat tindersloots while his country slips away from the grasp of his children and their descendants)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33702881)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 7:54 PM
Author: Charcoal mind-boggling selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33703250)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 8:14 PM
Author: lavender orchestra pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33703353)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 3:49 PM
Author: Orange swollen shrine trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33702086)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 4:07 PM
Author: Haunting passionate trailer park

civilizations rise and fall with the tide of history

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33702200)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 6:45 PM
Author: Walnut fat ankles

it never really was a nation...it was an empire illegally cobbled together by the founding plutocrats in order to weaken democracy among the several states.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33702900)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 6:47 PM
Author: Buff Senate

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33702911)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 6:49 PM
Author: indecent opaque cuck

(Emperor of South Carolina)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33702921)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 7:48 PM
Author: Vigorous Frum Cuckold

Illegally!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33703228)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 7:51 PM
Author: Irradiated Clear Tanning Salon Mexican

It was never a nation. It was always just an ongoing concern. Russia is a nation. Israel is a nation. The US is a business.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33703239)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 7:52 PM
Author: Walnut fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33703242)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 7:55 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone swashbuckling forum juggernaut

so? free market >>>>> "nations"

Russia's foreign policy is brilliant I'm sure, but look how they live.

Even in Israel, people don't live nearly as well as we do. Hell even in most of Western Europe, people kind of live like crap by comparison.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33703256)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 7:56 PM
Author: Walnut fat ankles

but they don't have to work as hard or go into as much debt as we do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33703262)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 8:00 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone swashbuckling forum juggernaut

on average that is true, but America offers you both opportunities... if you want to work hard there is less of a ceiling... if you want to be a lazy do nothing there is still some safety net that allows you to work minimal amounts and still get by.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33703277)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 8:10 PM
Author: Walnut fat ankles

no, they put you in jail if you try to build a cheap house...gotta work to get a mortgage....the elites use the laws, mass immigration, and central-bank-generated inflation to keep us all on a treadmill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33703338)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 7:58 PM
Author: Irradiated Clear Tanning Salon Mexican

You and all yours will be extinct and forgotten. They will be the same in 1000 years as today. Their nations are immortal. Yours wont exist in 50 years. The goal is infinity and not your fucking comfort. Russia today and Russia 400 years ago are still the same Russia. The US today and the US 50 years ago are not the same nations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33703269)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 8:06 PM
Author: Haunting passionate trailer park

the elites prob. identify more with the elites of other countries than they do with the working class of their own country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33703315)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 8:29 PM
Author: slap-happy box office

CR. Christopher Lasch's "Revolt of the Elites" written back in the early 90s predicted exactly where we are now based on that very premise

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33703472)



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Date: July 7th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Aqua Supple Stead

not even probably - more like "openly and proudly"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33722964)



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Date: July 7th, 2017 2:19 PM
Author: Drab Trip Mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33722974)



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Date: July 4th, 2017 8:19 PM
Author: Apoplectic dragon

heh the italians and irish assimilated fine! (goober who thinks modernity is normal and acceptable)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#33703384)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: Maniacal Ape

family bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3665282&forum_id=2#36280609)