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Watching The Pacific. Why didn't soldiers just carry giant medieval shields?
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Date: July 9th, 2017 7:10 PM Author: wonderful orchid home roommate Like a fully body shield they could carry: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/2e/b5/03/2eb503e4e83547a5d31fe0ec93835da3.jpg
They're basically just running straight into enemy fire so why not. |
Date: July 9th, 2017 7:11 PM Author: Splenetic Spot Boltzmann One weird trick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#33736855) |
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Date: July 9th, 2017 7:13 PM Author: wonderful orchid home roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#33736866) |
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Date: July 9th, 2017 7:17 PM Author: Canary At-the-ready Dilemma metal thick enough to stop bullets is usually too heavy to carry. "Armor" refers to tanks which do just that, but are self-propelled (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#33736884) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 10:49 PM Author: laughsome theater That's why the shield is rounded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438083) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 10:52 PM Author: Sick pervert hissy fit U slowly lumbering up to Japanese as Grenades land all around ur feet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438101) |
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Date: July 9th, 2017 7:12 PM Author: Heady self-absorbed mad cow disease there was actually a lot of shield use in WWI, but it really restricted your mobility, which was often deadly when you had to take evasive action to avoid targeted fire. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#33736858) |
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Date: July 9th, 2017 7:16 PM Author: wonderful orchid home roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#33736880) |
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Date: July 9th, 2017 7:18 PM Author: Sienna Laser Beams The Pacific is about the USMC. The Army had the shield technology. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#33736886) |
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Date: July 9th, 2017 7:20 PM Author: Cracking buff base They tried this but the japs had really powerful magnets and pulled the soldiers toward them and then dropped them in the sea where they drowned to death (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#33736899) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 10:57 PM Author: Confused ruddy brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438128) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 11:14 PM Author: awkward public bath multi-billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438233) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2019 7:15 PM Author: wonderful orchid home roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#39062825) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2019 7:15 PM Author: Chartreuse locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#39062830) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 3:49 PM Author: .......,,,,,,,.....,,,,,,,......, (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41411065) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 3:50 PM Author: geno (fonzie) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41411066) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 7:49 PM Author: embedded racism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41412349) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 11:34 PM Author: Nonbinary Soy Turkey (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41413387) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 10:48 PM Author: wonderful orchid home roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438078) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 10:50 PM Author: laughsome theater Trued2 this in WWI, but it was faggot:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_personnel_shield |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 10:53 PM Author: Sick pervert hissy fit They were trying anything in ww1. Look at this dumbass tank the Russians invented http://www.worldwar1gallery.com/tanks/russian-tanks.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438112) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 10:55 PM Author: laughsome theater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438123) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 10:56 PM Author: Transparent hateful area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438127) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 11:03 PM Author: White Coldplay Fan lol @ slavs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#34438164) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 3:55 PM Author: gedood kalkoen Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41411084) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 7:57 PM Author: Oh, you travel? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41412389) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2020 12:58 AM Author: .......,,,,,,,.....,,,,,,,......, that Csar Tank is steam punk as shit - https://www.amusingplanet.com/2020/05/tsar-tank.html . This is why WWI stuff is cool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41413712) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2020 9:07 AM Author: Jughead alpha as fuck
high T Slavs raining death from above on hapless Pomeranian potato farmers |
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Date: November 22nd, 2020 12:28 AM Author: Lemma Time WWI is like a mass sick military acid trip. Nobody knew what the fuck they were doing and they were just making up shit that might kill people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41413628) |
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Date: October 13th, 2017 11:06 PM Author: Misanthropic contagious famous landscape painting house Would've slowed the bodies too much
Speed>lives |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 3:51 PM Author: tom kike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41411068) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 3:52 PM Author: batgod (cowgod) The island-hopping excursions made about as much sense as the Africa and Italy campaigns. Did generals back then see these little skirmishes as a way to "level-up" their infantry for the big fight? It's as though they had no other choice being that they were 1.) at war, 2.) wanted to fight said war 3.) didn't have the resolve to fight the actual war, whether it be in Europe or Japan proper.
Also there was all kinds of armour in use back then, just not on a wide scale. Steel armour is both lighter and more effective than laymen realise. See: https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-tactical/ridiculous-wwi-body-armor/ https://www.pinterest.com/pin/790944753284427586/
Shields/armour would've saved countless lives in any number of wars imo, the issue is (was) cost. It would probably work today but generals are inside-the-box thinkers and have 90 IQs unless they major in Engineering at west point or are Robert E Lee. |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 4:30 PM Author: How to derive aut from ism Are you serious, questioning the island-hopping? The US needed forward bases, and they weren't going to have them - at least not securely - without clearing the field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41411266) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 7:47 PM Author: batgod (cowgod) Yeah they needed forward bases to engage in pussy-assed firebombing of civilians. Why didn't they invade Japan proper in 1942? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41412339) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 7:52 PM Author: FUCK LIBS Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41412365) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 11:32 PM Author: ...,,,.,,,,,,,..,,.,.,,.....,,.,.,,.. Just do invade Japan from Midway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41413379) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2020 9:08 AM Author: Jughead they had boats dumbass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41414219) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 4:49 PM Author: Buck "The Club" Paulette Why didn't the Africa campaign make sense? It was mostly a British campaign and they needed to shore up Suez. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41411341) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 7:46 PM Author: batgod (cowgod) They needed to get massacred at Dunkirk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41412335) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2020 9:09 AM Author: Jughead defense of suez made sense
Torch would have made no sense, except Hitler took the bait and kept reinforcing defeat, leading to tens of thousands of his top troops getting stuck on Tunisia, without supplies, and surrendering |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 7:56 PM Author: ,..,,,,,,....,,,..., *Guy not familiar with the ceramic armor worn by the US military in Afghanistan and Iraq, about to spend an evening going down a wiki rabbit hole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41412385) |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 8:02 PM Author: batgod (cowgod) Yeah steel plates and/or ceramic are the norm but it's nowhere near full coverage afaik. A suit of armour would cover basically all surface area.
Cuirasses were out there in WWI. Really no authentic reason why George Washington or Napoleon to not have worn one other than he would be one of very few so equipped. Imagine Pickett's Charge but with plate armour, they'd be invincible. No one thought of this for some reason. |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 11:19 PM Author: ,..,,,,,,....,,,..., The plates are heavy as fuck because lighter stuff doesn't stop bullets (although the engineers have made huge improvement on this front after dudes who had been issued plates were taking shots to the chest because they didn't want to wear the plate). They are also not flexible. Try running with that shit on your legs or operating a weapon while wearing rigid sleeves.
Modern armies have decided that they will cover the head and torso. If you lose a limb the good news is that army medics can probably save you. Afterwards, you get a crazy robo-limb, a medal, lifetime "hero" status, and a much hotter wife than you had coming to you as a dirt-poor 18-year-old enlisted guy with two arms and two legs.
Historic armies would have used armor if it was a decent idea. Once guns got decent, armor was a garbage investment because the stuff that would actually protect a bro was expensive to make, heavy as fuck, and required training to use. Much more cost-effective to just recruit more Irish and try to keep anyone important out of the line of fire. You probably could armor the front of guys sufficiently to block most shots from the fairly primitive rifles issued to civil war infantry. But those guys are going to be marching at like 1 mph. Once the artillery guys start dropping shells on them and they get outmaneuvered and flanked/encircled by better-armed cavalry or lighter infantry, the result is not going to be pretty. Also the confederates in particular were in no position to use a bunch of metal to armor up their starving prole shithead troops. They were perpetually short of more important things like guns, train tracks, a navy, etc. |
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Date: November 21st, 2020 11:44 PM Author: Drunkard (Aloha) Because there was not steel for armor available during the civil war. Even then ships were using iron. Plentiful good steel was a couple decades away. Plus, you know, heavy and expensive. You are not marching 20 miles a day in an armor plate suit with all your kit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3670098&forum_id=2#41413438) |