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Finally pwning the Ottomans on EU4 ironman
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Date: July 16th, 2017 2:03 PM Author: 180 cheese-eating roommate school took multiple tries to figure this out as Venice. now i am crushing their shit and removing kebab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#33787610) |
Date: July 16th, 2017 2:07 PM Author: Pea-brained translucent dingle berry university Poast when you retake Constantinople, fagg0t. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#33787626) |
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Date: July 16th, 2017 2:08 PM Author: 180 cheese-eating roommate school already did and made byzantium my vassal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#33787634) |
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Date: September 30th, 2017 2:42 PM Author: Twinkling parlor associate 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#34333323) |
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Date: July 17th, 2017 5:48 PM Author: Nofapping Point Really enjoy playing Venice. I usually start strong, but then get pwnd by the Turks.
What's your General strat? What ideas do you take? |
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Date: July 17th, 2017 5:58 PM Author: demanding lodge nibblets Look around Europe's major countries and see who has a "friendly" heart. You can ally them immediately. Should be at least two of France/Spain/Austria/Poland. Then fabricate and try to steal Byzantium before the Ottomans can get it. With your allies you should look "big and scary" enough to avoid an Ottoman war declaration. Wait until you can call in your allies and probably wait until they're involved in a war in the East (ideally Mamluks but the mid sized hordes over there would work OK) then declare. With you + Austria + Poland for example it should be fairly easy. Also if they ally France as they sometimes do you're pretty much boned.
Quantity is the best military idea group in the game (and as venice you can easily afford the # of troops and still make good money). Try to keep your Republican leaders as much as you can. Try to stay >80 Republican tradition. You can strengthen government if you have to - the math still works out in your favor I believe. |
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Date: July 17th, 2017 6:00 PM Author: Nofapping Point So snagging Constantinople early is the key to facejamming the Turks? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#33796182) |
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Date: July 17th, 2017 6:13 PM Author: demanding lodge nibblets If they capture Constantinople they get an event that gives them +1 stability, the city +11 development, and changes them to Empire rank all for free. There are also some other good events that only trigger if they have Constantinople.
They can still be really strong without it but it does help handicap them. Trying to snag some of the Turkish minors before them is good too - makes you stronger and them weaker.
Check to see if the Ottomans have the "City of World's Desire" mission within the first month of unpausing. If they do then forget about fabricating on Byzantium and just do a no cassus beli war to take their three provinces + athens. |
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Date: July 17th, 2017 6:35 PM Author: 180 cheese-eating roommate school Very cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#33796469) |
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Date: September 30th, 2017 2:44 PM Author: azure stage i get quantity, administrative, and defensive in virtually every game no matter what country. you get reductions from quantity and defensive for land unit maintenance and can get a policy to get further reduction, and the reduced coring costs are great, too. Land unit maintenance is one of the biggest costs in the game, so limiting it makes everything so fucking easy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#34333346) |
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Date: July 17th, 2017 6:34 PM Author: 180 cheese-eating roommate school I ally austria and another big country, like poland, and then making as big a trade league as possible because each country in your trade league will defend you if someone declares war on you. Then i take bosnia, serbia, and wallachia and stack cash until ottomans are in a big eastern war with no troops in europe. Then i declare war with all my allies and have ships in the strait by constantinople to block the ottoman troops from crossing
Then i take a few provinces and wait until the truce is over and do it again
I do quality ideas and trade i think |
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Date: July 17th, 2017 5:48 PM Author: Erotic diverse background story Lol nub. Call back when u buy hearts of iron (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#33796096) |
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Date: July 17th, 2017 5:50 PM Author: Nofapping Point Better? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#33796102) |
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Date: July 17th, 2017 5:59 PM Author: demanding lodge nibblets HOI2 was great but it's really dated now. HOI3 was ultra spergy complex and you'd spend an hour before unpausing just reorganizing the like five layered command structure of your starting army. That was probably excessive, but I liked it. HOI4 is ultra simplified and I don't enjoy it at all.
EU4 currently is the best game Paradox has ever made. |
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Date: July 17th, 2017 6:18 PM Author: Sable space Yea HOI4 seems like a game they made with the idea in mind that someone with zero Paradox exp could pickup in an hour. Its waaay to fucking simple. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#33796323) |
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Date: September 30th, 2017 2:54 PM Author: azure stage havent had the time or energy to learn anything new yet but own it and want to play solely for the alternate history fun, heard you can turn US facist or some shit and conquer your neighbors, maybe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#34333419) |
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Date: July 17th, 2017 5:52 PM Author: demanding lodge nibblets Any of the Venice sized nations should have before unpause access to multiple powerful allies (depending on rival luck). If you can get Austria+Poland you're in pretty good shape. Usually a good idea to fabricate + declare on Byzantium so the Ottomans can't get it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#33796133) |
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Date: July 17th, 2017 6:37 PM Author: 180 cheese-eating roommate school Also be sure to declare on ragusa during the war with the ottomans and take them since ottomans are guaranteeing their independence (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#33796480) |
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Date: July 17th, 2017 6:01 PM Author: carnelian trip hall deer antler Kebab tastes good tho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#33796186) |
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Date: September 30th, 2017 2:26 PM Author: Bateful violet area boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#34333156) |
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Date: September 30th, 2017 2:41 PM Author: azure stage about to call you a noob but venice is a good decently challenging one to play I guess
i have been enjoying playing OP countries like poland and flat out conquering europe and ottomans, last game dismantled HRE super early because the fucking protestants won and there were like 2 protestant electors, LOL, open season after that on all of central europe, plus an early PU over bohemia (which holds now despite the elected monarch in commonwealth?? didnt use to). Owned everything from the good parts of russia to the levant to france
had extreme fun playing morocco and conquering rome, converting everyone to islam, colonizing, etc |
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Date: September 30th, 2017 2:43 PM Author: 180 cheese-eating roommate school venice is OP now because of all the trade bonuses they get. i get so much money rolling in that nobody else is a challenge. easy to control all the trade in the mediterranean and the english channel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#34333342) |
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Date: September 30th, 2017 2:45 PM Author: azure stage honestly once you have played a lot and mastered all of the systems almost all countries that dont start at a huge disadvantage are somewhat OP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#34333354) |
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Date: September 30th, 2017 3:35 PM Author: 180 cheese-eating roommate school True (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3676575&forum_id=2#34333725) |