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transactional work SUCKS

I am a biglaw shitigator that has gotten sucked into an M&am...
odious brethren field
  07/19/17
yeah im a huge fan. tons of downtime to just chill
Flesh Vibrant Parlor Place Of Business
  07/19/17
no that's terrible. instead of billing 8 hours and go home y...
odious brethren field
  07/19/17
Why wouldn't you bill for all that time?
cerise partner
  07/19/17
bc i'm not working? i'm at home sitting around with my dogs ...
odious brethren field
  07/19/17
Don't be a fag have a beer, you can still do the work
Misunderstood Deranged Space
  07/19/17
And bill while waiting to work.
cerise partner
  07/19/17
u can't do that. is that what transnational folks do? like b...
odious brethren field
  07/19/17
Yes, if you're truly unable to do anything because you have ...
Misunderstood Deranged Space
  07/19/17
i can hang out, watch tv, etc. doesn't seem right to bill fo...
odious brethren field
  07/19/17
OFS
impressive splenetic abode nibblets
  07/19/17
what do you put in the billing entry? "waiting for work...
odious brethren field
  07/19/17
It's akin to driving to a hearing while listening to some 18...
cerise partner
  07/19/17
Attn to correspondence and comprehensive support of deal mat...
stimulating lay
  07/19/17
That sounds like some serious shit, like you're on the Trann...
cerise partner
  07/19/17
when I was a junior i did some doc review after a few beers ...
odious brethren field
  07/19/17
Yeah, that sounds WAY better than tranny work
insanely creepy cumskin
  07/19/17
what
Lake cracking gunner
  07/19/17
in litigation i rarely ever work past 7 or 8 pm. maybe twice...
odious brethren field
  07/19/17
Weird flame
Very Tactful Vivacious Fortuitous Meteor House
  07/19/17
?
odious brethren field
  07/19/17
Lol ya it's so much worse than having 75 open Westlaw tabs a...
Angry institution
  07/19/17
man fuck that. just pull somebody else's brief on ecf pacer ...
odious brethren field
  07/19/17
Are you low IQ?
Very Tactful Vivacious Fortuitous Meteor House
  07/19/17
That is entirely different than the type of transactional BS...
Lake cracking gunner
  07/19/17
Oh the EXIT OPTIONS of shitigation
impressive splenetic abode nibblets
  07/19/17
you're right about that. not sure it justifies the years of ...
odious brethren field
  07/19/17
Shitigation is death
impressive splenetic abode nibblets
  07/19/17
specialized litigation has exit options, at least. lower pay...
odious brethren field
  07/19/17
false
Swashbuckling balding brunch
  07/19/17
Nah, true
Lake cracking gunner
  07/19/17
I know associates who have gone in House in my field and I'v...
odious brethren field
  07/19/17
just buy refundable airline tickets and don't have friends.
Swashbuckling balding brunch
  07/19/17
lol, cr but it's better than everything else
Swashbuckling balding brunch
  07/19/17
Also, do transactional lawyer is ever actually have to writ...
odious brethren field
  07/19/17
A contract is like a narrative, addressing the obligations o...
Pontificating opaque reading party pocket flask
  07/19/17
In emails explaining stuff
Angry institution
  07/19/17
Yea, when you go inhouse. Different audience.
Submissive kink-friendly casino becky
  07/19/17
...
Maize theatre
  07/20/17
Have we all come to terms with the fact that calishitlawguru...
Mint Base
  07/20/17
Cq
well-lubricated harsh gaping
  07/20/17
Biglaw transactional work sucks because you are just brought...
Flickering Parlour Love Of Her Life
  07/20/17


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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:40 PM
Author: odious brethren field

I am a biglaw shitigator that has gotten sucked into an M&A "deal" this week. I can't believe how much it blows! Sit around all day with nothing to do then the client dumps the latest draft of whatever agreement we have so that we can "turn" it overnight. Then it takes literally 2 hours to do edits that would take 5 minutes on a brief, because you have to go through some sort of daisy chain of emails and calls to do it. And you have to sit around all night just waiting for the next person to respond to email, call, whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813516)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:42 PM
Author: Flesh Vibrant Parlor Place Of Business

yeah im a huge fan. tons of downtime to just chill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813534)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:43 PM
Author: odious brethren field

no that's terrible. instead of billing 8 hours and go home you have to be on call all. fucking. night.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813544)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:45 PM
Author: cerise partner

Why wouldn't you bill for all that time?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813562)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:47 PM
Author: odious brethren field

bc i'm not working? i'm at home sitting around with my dogs but unable to drink beer because some random bullshit tasks will come in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813579)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:48 PM
Author: Misunderstood Deranged Space

Don't be a fag have a beer, you can still do the work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813593)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:49 PM
Author: cerise partner

And bill while waiting to work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813601)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:51 PM
Author: odious brethren field

u can't do that. is that what transnational folks do? like bill hours and hours whenever they *might* have some bullshit task come in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813608)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:51 PM
Author: Misunderstood Deranged Space

Yes, if you're truly unable to do anything because you have to wait for work, that should be billed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813612)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:52 PM
Author: odious brethren field

i can hang out, watch tv, etc. doesn't seem right to bill for that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813620)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:55 PM
Author: impressive splenetic abode nibblets

OFS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813641)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:56 PM
Author: odious brethren field

what do you put in the billing entry? "waiting for work"??? i've only billed for "waiting" time once, and it is when the client directed me to stand by and wait to make a filing that had already been prepared. so i went to the bar and drank beer waiting for the "ok." but that was a special circumstance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813648)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:12 PM
Author: cerise partner

It's akin to driving to a hearing while listening to some 180 podcasts.

As for what to write in the time entry, just flow from whatever task you just completed or work on next. You know this nigger gsme.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813775)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:13 PM
Author: stimulating lay

Attn to correspondence and comprehensive support of deal matters (6.5); continued diligence and analysis related to same (3.2)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813785)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:17 PM
Author: cerise partner

That sounds like some serious shit, like you're on the Tranny Night's Watch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813801)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:50 PM
Author: odious brethren field

when I was a junior i did some doc review after a few beers and produced something that shouldn't have been produced and the assistant GC alled me and reamed me out saying that the GC had "flayed his fucking skin back over it". LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813603)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:17 PM
Author: insanely creepy cumskin

Yeah, that sounds WAY better than tranny work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813803)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:46 PM
Author: Lake cracking gunner

what

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813575)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:47 PM
Author: odious brethren field

in litigation i rarely ever work past 7 or 8 pm. maybe twice a month. it's nice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813587)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:48 PM
Author: Very Tactful Vivacious Fortuitous Meteor House

Weird flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813594)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:49 PM
Author: odious brethren field

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813597)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:43 PM
Author: Angry institution

Lol ya it's so much worse than having 75 open Westlaw tabs and volumes of evidence open trying desperately to think of how it will all come together in a brief

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813552)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:48 PM
Author: odious brethren field

man fuck that. just pull somebody else's brief on ecf pacer from a similar case where the same issues were involved and pull all the cites from their brief.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813591)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:48 PM
Author: Very Tactful Vivacious Fortuitous Meteor House

Are you low IQ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813592)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:58 PM
Author: Lake cracking gunner

That is entirely different than the type of transactional BS OP is complaining about. The situation you described is procrastination and incompetence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813670)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:51 PM
Author: impressive splenetic abode nibblets

Oh the EXIT OPTIONS of shitigation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813607)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:52 PM
Author: odious brethren field

you're right about that. not sure it justifies the years of hell to be transnational though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813616)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:54 PM
Author: impressive splenetic abode nibblets

Shitigation is death

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813638)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:57 PM
Author: odious brethren field

specialized litigation has exit options, at least. lower paying than big law to be sure, but you can still exit and not have to work a the firm till you die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813662)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:59 PM
Author: Swashbuckling balding brunch

false

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813674)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:00 PM
Author: Lake cracking gunner

Nah, true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813683)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:01 PM
Author: odious brethren field

I know associates who have gone in House in my field and I've had offers to go in House. Salary is sub-200, but it's an exit option nonetheless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813693)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:58 PM
Author: Swashbuckling balding brunch

just buy refundable airline tickets and don't have friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813672)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 10:58 PM
Author: Swashbuckling balding brunch

lol, cr

but it's better than everything else

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813665)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:07 PM
Author: odious brethren field

Also, do transactional lawyer is ever actually have to write anything in narrative format? Are writing skills required at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813743)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:14 PM
Author: Pontificating opaque reading party pocket flask

A contract is like a narrative, addressing the obligations of the parties

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813791)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:16 PM
Author: Angry institution

In emails explaining stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813797)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 11:19 PM
Author: Submissive kink-friendly casino becky

Yea, when you go inhouse. Different audience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33813821)



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Date: July 20th, 2017 11:59 AM
Author: Maize theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33816401)



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Date: July 20th, 2017 12:25 PM
Author: Mint Base

Have we all come to terms with the fact that calishitlawguru pwns the fuck out of all of this shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33816546)



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Date: July 20th, 2017 4:07 PM
Author: well-lubricated harsh gaping

Cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33818215)



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Date: July 20th, 2017 4:11 PM
Author: Flickering Parlour Love Of Her Life

Biglaw transactional work sucks because you are just brought in after all the major deal points are decided upon to just paper the deal, with everything being a fire drill.

Working for smaller entrepreneurial clients (who are usually rich as fuk) is much more interesting, as they look at you as more of an advisor, and bring you in for advice, both legal and business, from day 1 of a transaction and for any important decision.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3679764&forum_id=2#33818254)