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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:39 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad These are always auto-dings. Such poor career choices. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967361) |
Date: August 11th, 2017 7:45 PM Author: apoplectic genital piercing tank I am an expert on the Engineering job market. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967399) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:45 PM Author: clear ladyboy mental disorder (Guy who doesn't know what "obscure" means) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967400) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:52 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad (civil engineer) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967451) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:58 PM Author: clear ladyboy mental disorder It's literally the LEAST "obscure" engineering field; there are more civil engineers than any other kind of engineer, you gigantic retard.
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=engineers+people+employed |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:01 PM Author: amber duck-like sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967532) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:09 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad Lol I don't give a shit about 56-yr old engineers from some bygone era hanging on for a few more years. In 2017, "civil" engineering is simply obscure, especially for people trying to muscle their way into patent law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967591) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:10 PM Author: amber duck-like sweet tailpipe "I don't give a shit"
let me stop you there... you're a pumo. your opinion isn't important. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:12 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad Ok let me rephrase. Nobody gives a shit about your obscure CivE degree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967616) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:14 PM Author: amber duck-like sweet tailpipe let me rephrase.
you're a pumo. nobody gives a shit about your opinion as to who gives a shit or doesnt give a shit about particular engineering degrees. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:13 PM Author: clear ladyboy mental disorder "Employment of civil engineers is projected to grow 8 percent from 2014 to 2024, about as fast as the average for all occupations."
https://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-and-engineering/civil-engineers.htm
It's a good thing you're already pumo, hey? |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:15 PM Author: amber duck-like sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967648) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:57 PM Author: bull headed public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968689) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:23 PM Author: onyx gaming laptop den (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968839) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:51 PM Author: amber duck-like sweet tailpipe (poli sci shithead) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967433) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 7:52 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad (civil engineer) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967452) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:01 PM Author: amber duck-like sweet tailpipe always. a. pumo.
see above. you got pwn3d
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967499)
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:10 PM Author: gaped opaque church fortuitous meteor Civil engineer here. lol @ programmer fags. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967599) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:16 PM Author: clear ladyboy mental disorder Tell us about your jerb
What stuff do you design? Do you enjoy it? How's the pay? What are the best and worst parts of the work? |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:24 PM Author: gaped opaque church fortuitous meteor My degree is BS Civil but I call myself a structural engineer. I design bridges. The pay is OK. The best part of my work, for me, it when I have to come up with a novel solution to a particular problem, or create a complex model of something. The worst part is midnight bridge inspections. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967720) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:25 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad Had to be bridges (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967733) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 9:01 PM Author: clear ladyboy mental disorder Can you tell us your pay and years of experience? Or approximately if you're worried about doobs or whatever.
How many hours per week do you typically work? How hard is it to find a job as a structural engineer? Both in terms of how you'd perceive the market for new graduates right now, and in terms of if you yourself were fired, how long it would take you to find a new job. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 9:22 PM Author: gaped opaque church fortuitous meteor 15 years. I make an adequate income.
I work 40 hours a week normally. If there is a deadline I work as long as I have to to meet it. You will be paid straight time overtime unless you are management and on a salary. The market is regional and here (Chicago) the market has high demand for structural engineers of all levels, you will find a job. If I were fired I could find a job in Chicagoland pretty easily. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:10 PM Author: angry jet-lagged private investor Difficulty of FE/PE? There's a special extra test for structural, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968753) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 5:41 PM Author: gaped opaque church fortuitous meteor FE is mildly difficult and best taken last year of school. PE is easy. SE (Structural Engineer) test is hard as fuck and has a lower pass rate than the bar, but its only required in a few states. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33972732) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 5:38 PM Author: hideous foreskin lodge curious what salary range for a real engineer is?
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:10 PM Author: burgundy swashbuckling scourge upon the earth rigor what i don't understand is why you need a ee to be a patent lawyer. like in undergrad what if i have no idea what ee even is? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967604) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:13 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad Because there isn't much of a market for patenting bridges or whatever it is that civil engineers do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967629) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:14 PM Author: burgundy swashbuckling scourge upon the earth rigor but why can't a cive prosecution ee patents. one or two courses on circuits would suffice, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967637) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:18 PM Author: brass twinkling uncleanness idiot No (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967673) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:20 PM Author: burgundy swashbuckling scourge upon the earth rigor but the ee knows how to patent the cure for cancer. got it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967682) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:23 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad No they dont, you hire Bio PHDs for that, ee/cs for all the tech work, and you don't hire CivEs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967702) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:26 PM Author: burgundy swashbuckling scourge upon the earth rigor ee/cs knows how to patent a bridge, but meche doesn't know how to patent computer memory? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967738) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:27 PM Author: amber duck-like sweet tailpipe youre taking to moron (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967752) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:55 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad I didn't say ee/cs know how to patent a bridge, there just isn't much demand for such a skill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968684) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:13 PM Author: amber duck-like sweet tailpipe you don't. OP is flame.
biglaw ip lit cares more about law school and grades. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:16 PM Author: Ruddy thriller home True, but EE/CS is a big plus even for IP lit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967658) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:19 PM Author: amber duck-like sweet tailpipe depends on the firm. could be a big plus, or a slight plus.
the reality is that any ip lit candidate with a stem degree -- ee/cs or bio -- and who meets the school/grades cutoff will have tons of opportunities. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:20 PM Author: Sticky laser beams cuck (It is 2010) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967685) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:36 PM Author: odious field organic girlfriend you're a fucking idiot if you're going into IP lit in 2017 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967827) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:38 PM Author: Sticky laser beams cuck Cr. Unless ANDA/Biosimilars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967841) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:24 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad I didn't say biglaw ip lit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967724) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:15 PM Author: aphrodisiac peach black woman I was a patent litigator at a top firm with a philosophy degree lmao... I was writing claim construction briefs in billion dollar ANDA cases and had literally no clue what the fuck any of the words meant. it was pretty 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967650) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:16 PM Author: amber duck-like sweet tailpipe tbf, i got an A in organic chem and i've written CC briefs in billion dollar anda cases and i dont have a fucking clue what the words mean either. patent lit is a fucking lulzy joke. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967659) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:17 PM Author: Ruddy thriller home The judge/clerk writing the Markman order probably didn't have any clue what any of the words mean either. LJL at our patent system. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967663) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:18 PM Author: aphrodisiac peach black woman lol cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967669) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:20 PM Author: amber duck-like sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967680) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:21 PM Author: Sticky laser beams cuck This is 100% true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967691) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 8:20 PM Author: amber duck-like sweet tailpipe ITT: thread does *not* go as OP planned. always. a. pumo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33967689) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:06 PM Author: motley headpube (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968426) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:57 PM Author: bull headed public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968692) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:25 PM Author: clear ladyboy mental disorder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968856) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 9:19 PM Author: brass twinkling uncleanness idiot How about "industrial engineering" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968145) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:58 PM Author: bull headed public bath (Ga Tech grad) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968697) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 10:58 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad That's right up. Civil, industrial, nuclear, aerospace, etc. All those people are auto-dings.
Also "systems engineering" or "general engineering." Those are the most lolzy. |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:01 PM Author: bull headed public bath One is not like the other. Civil Engineering is not an obscure field. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968708) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:06 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad It's equally useless for patent law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968736) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:02 PM Author: motley headpube Know a few industrial/operations engineers in ip. Doesn't matter if you can sit for the patent bar and can be billed out. You seem dumb and about to go through oci. Good luck. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968710) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:10 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad They won't get jobs unless they are 8+ females. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968754) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:11 PM Author: motley headpube Neither will you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968762) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:04 PM Author: clear ladyboy mental disorder You're further exposing your retardation. Aerospace engineering degrees have 95% curriculum overlap with mechanical engineering degrees. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968721) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:06 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad sorry bro, they are unhirable in patent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968735) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:17 PM Author: clear ladyboy mental disorder Are mechanical engineers unhireable in patent? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968799) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:22 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad No, although they aren't particularly in demand. We don't look at what classes people took. We look at the listed name of your degree and your GPA. This is all client driven. We can't put "aerospace engineers" on some random company's mechanical work and say it's close enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968835) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:25 PM Author: clear ladyboy mental disorder Not a lawyer so not familiar with the nuances of your clients' ignorance (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968854) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:26 PM Author: motley headpube This guy's client is the black suit he's laid out for oci next week (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968857) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 12:04 AM Author: bateful olive nibblets parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33969042) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:27 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad Not about ignorance. I can't even tell you how many times a candidate with some random major has told me with the classes they took, they pretty much could have a cs or ee degree. Nobody wants to hear it, you have the degree you have. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968863) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:31 PM Author: clear ladyboy mental disorder Except an AeroE degree ACTUALLY IS "pretty much" a MechE degree. It's 100% about ignorance that you don't know this. Look at the curriculum for each major. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968876) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:34 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad I honestly don't know or care. I imagine it must vary from school to school. Regardless, I know clients at non-aero clients will not know what an aerospace engineering degree is and will not want to see such people working on their projects. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968888) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:36 PM Author: clear ladyboy mental disorder Isn't there some mechanism by which your shitboomer clients can be brought up to speed on the most basic facts about various technical credentials?
"I honestly don't know" - this is pretty much what is meant by the word "ignorance," breh |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:42 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad We don't see that many aero candidates, and we don't have that much of a need for mechE people anyways. They need to have rockstar credentials as well as interpersonal skills to have any chance. No incentive to try to accomodate obscure majors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968933) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:36 PM Author: motley headpube Cr it's also the same department (MAE) at most schools (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968897) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:20 PM Author: angry jet-lagged private investor For that matter, civil is probably 80% overlap with mechanical, too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968823) |
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Date: August 11th, 2017 11:23 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad Doesn't matter, auto-ding. Maybe if it was 80% cs/ee, they would have a shot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33968841) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 10:53 AM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33970241) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 5:35 PM Author: clear ladyboy mental disorder Why would you bump this thread? You got thoroughly gaped. Or do you still think being obscure and being unhelpful for patent law are the same thing? State your IQ. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33972701) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 5:39 PM Author: Glittery Free-loading Juggernaut Crackhouse Lol at patents nerds having hierarchies in their sad little nerd world (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33972721) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 6:08 PM Author: brass twinkling uncleanness idiot (bs in biological anthropology) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33972856) |
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Date: August 12th, 2017 7:03 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#33973193) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2017 5:26 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#34123826) |
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Date: September 2nd, 2017 6:05 PM Author: Carmine gas station coldplay fan I always think it's weird for CS people to call themselves "engineers." They must think it sounds cool or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#34124127) |
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Date: September 18th, 2017 8:34 PM Author: stimulating puce idea he suggested police squad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3698555&forum_id=2#34239077) |