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3L, no offers, GPA well below median, no debt. What do?
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:17 PM Author: Cerise Cruise Ship pre-law school experience?
get out of law. |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 9:41 PM Author: Underhanded International Law Enforcement Agency Pit not really in law, is he (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34104524) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:17 PM Author: jet-lagged charismatic home background story i just gave up on law entirely. dont do anything other than biglaw or solo or quit law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103113) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:19 PM Author: jet-lagged charismatic home background story work a job that has nothing to do with law and for which the jd was a negative if anything. tbh your life is probably fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103130) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:25 PM Author: Ocher glittery national foreskin the no debt is good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103181) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:19 PM Author: Stirring institution "no debt"
scholarship or did daddy pay?
if daddy paid, go work in his business?
also are you dumb or just hate law? |
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Not dumb but had some personal issues 1L that really fucked me |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:24 PM Author: jet-lagged charismatic home background story tbf theres no shame in NOT getting your dad to help you find a job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103171) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:29 PM Author: Stirring institution If his alternative is joblessness, then yes, there is shame. He is a no-offered 3L with shitty grades in a shitty economy with an expensive degree his father paid for. He needs to rely on connections at this point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103211) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:26 PM Author: ivory indian lodge bbw All right I'll see what I can do, but I'm not counting on it yknow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103195) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:34 PM Author: Ocher glittery national foreskin otherwise just go do something cool if you don't have any debt. Just count law school as a dumb 3 year vacation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103263) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:26 PM Author: Stirring institution This is a tough economy bro, especially for lawyers, and especially for law students with below median GPAs. There's no shame on asking Daddy for help. I'm sure he would be much more unhappy with you not working at all after paying for that education.
You are being stubborn and stupid, and cutting off your nose to spite your face. Stop it. |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:32 PM Author: Bateful olive persian party of the first part Dude just do Shitlaw. Cop exp for a few yrs if everyone in ur jsdx knows how shitty ur gpa is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103239) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:35 PM Author: Ocher glittery national foreskin lol fuck that. OP obviously isn't cut out to be a lawyer. He should do something cool with his life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103275) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:36 PM Author: Bateful olive persian party of the first part I have a 103 IQ I'm lazy as fuck and I'm an amazing shitlawyer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103287) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:36 PM Author: crystalline exhilarant athletic conference Is anyone cut out to be a lawyer? Isn't that why we're all depressed alcoholics? Because none of us are cut out for it except the coke fiends? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103290) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:29 PM Author: Bateful olive persian party of the first part Biglaw fag who got his only adult job summer after 1L: "DUDE UR SO FUCKED GET OUT OF LAW" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103213) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:37 PM Author: ivory indian lodge bbw Should my outlook be so bleak that I quit law just cuz I can't get biglaw? It's not like I need to make money right away. I could just start my own hustle and build that up right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103298) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:38 PM Author: crystalline exhilarant athletic conference Have you thought about nonprofits? Start volunteering there and see if you like it - Non profits are full of rich kids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103316) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:43 PM Author: crystalline exhilarant athletic conference The work is better than most other legal work, bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103369) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:45 PM Author: Ocher glittery national foreskin wtf in what fucking way is it "too late"? You're 25 and don't have any debt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103392) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:50 PM Author: ivory indian lodge bbw I guess it's not man idk I'm feeling pessimistic now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103442) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:51 PM Author: crystalline exhilarant athletic conference No debt, 25, not yet traumatized by biglaw
You have your whole life ahead of you, bro |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:52 PM Author: ivory indian lodge bbw Thank you friend. I am open to life and whatever it has to offer me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103468) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:56 PM Author: Ocher glittery national foreskin need to grow your balls back. life is out there for the taking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103497) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:43 PM Author: Wonderful embarrassed to the bone gunner I was in your position many years ago. I gave up on law and have never regretted it.
Just treat law school as a stupid 3 year vacation you took. Don't chase sunk costs. |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:43 PM Author: crystalline exhilarant athletic conference Do you do JD advantage or just ditched law forever? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103376) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:44 PM Author: Wonderful embarrassed to the bone gunner Ditched law forever. Never even took the bar exam. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103380) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:45 PM Author: crystalline exhilarant athletic conference 180
This profession is killing me slowly |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:46 PM Author: Wonderful embarrassed to the bone gunner IMO, when the law firms no offered me, that's the biggest favor anyone ever did me. I just didn't realize it at the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103402) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:49 PM Author: crystalline exhilarant athletic conference I think I have depression thanks to law firms...fml
You won the lotto, bro |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 11:56 PM Author: Titillating ungodly bawdyhouse Did you strike out, or did your summer firm NO OFFER you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34105486) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:45 PM Author: crystalline exhilarant athletic conference How did you get employers to ignore your JD? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103395) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:48 PM Author: Wonderful embarrassed to the bone gunner Took me months to find something. I lucked into a hiring manager who was also a non-practicing JD.
Once I got some experience, nobody even read the education section of my resume. Also, I like to think that not taking the bar helped me, because it allowed me to easily prove I was not just going to leave the moment somebody offered me a law job. |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:49 PM Author: crystalline exhilarant athletic conference Sounds 180. I wonder how hard it'd be to switch gears if you've worked for years in law...I feel I'd have to do a complete reset, like get a teaching master's. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103438) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:54 PM Author: Wonderful embarrassed to the bone gunner yeah, I imagine you're neither gunning for an entry-level job that a 24 year old would be happy with, nor likely to be seriously considered for such a job (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103482) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:54 PM Author: crystalline exhilarant athletic conference Fortunately half my high school teachers were other profession burn outs - so there is still hoap! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103484) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 6:55 PM Author: Wonderful embarrassed to the bone gunner teaching is one thing I applied for as a 3L...and never even got an interview for (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103491) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 7:02 PM Author: mildly autistic dark karate stag film do you genuinely think a serious legal job would be too difficult for you? i.e., do you think you are capable of doing BIGLAW for several years and your grades were just a fluke? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103538) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 11:21 PM Author: ivory indian lodge bbw Yeah I could do biglaw for several years. It's where I've wanted to be ever since I was a young kid and my dad brought me to his office. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34105286) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 7:04 PM Author: harsh state if daddy has money work at most prestigious PI place you can find, even volunteer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103562) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 7:06 PM Author: mildly autistic dark karate stag film if the strategy here is to fool people into thinking he had options and chose that to get experience in something interesting, it's not going to work because of his law school and class rank. If he was borderline and got unlucky, that would have probably worked.
if the strategy is to just do that because it's interesting and stable and just live off Daddy's trust fund, then titcr. |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 7:08 PM Author: trip sweet tailpipe Been there. Copped biglaw. Very odd route. Hard to advise - you're in a legitimately tough spot.
Try to keep your hands busy. Meet as many people as you can, do as much pt type work as you can, and this above all, BE AS LIBERAL AND JEWISH AS POSSIBLE. |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 7:21 PM Author: ivory indian lodge bbw This weekend I'll touch base with contacts I've made and let them know I still exist. I have a few leads but no offers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34103646) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 7:11 PM Author: mildly autistic dark karate stag film honestly... best strategy here... just do doc review for some stable big law firms where you can network. they won't make you an associate, but might feed you more work if you do a good job and bill reasonably... best case scenario (though unlikely) is that they make you a practice attorney.
advantages to this: good cash, flexible hours, you can probably just work 20 hours a week and make a decent living.
disadvantages: you will likely be treated like shit and even if you are not, the work will be boring as fuck. |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 9:16 PM Author: flatulent mauve office i was in your position except i had debt. still in law, making low six figures in government. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34104318) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 9:32 PM Author: histrionic antidepressant drug you're better off. biglaw sucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34104433) |
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Date: August 30th, 2017 11:23 PM Author: ivory indian lodge bbw I tell myself this...but I'd still jump at the opportunity. I figure if biglaw sucks I could just lateral out to a smaller firm that doesn't require as many billables per year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34105294) |
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Date: August 31st, 2017 12:07 AM Author: ruddy exciting casino DA or PDs office. They've been known to hire mouthbreathers. Especially from a T50. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34105537) |
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Date: August 31st, 2017 12:14 AM Author: Titillating ungodly bawdyhouse *a T4, actually:
http://www.queensda.org/newpressreleases/2016/SEPT%202016/ada_fall_2016_class.pdf |
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Date: August 31st, 2017 12:18 AM Author: ruddy exciting casino First, if he's that hard up, perhaps a less *prestigious* office than Queens.
Second, did you look at that list? Fordham? Hofstra? NYLS? Not exactly T4.
EDIT: Hi Sam :-) |
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Date: August 31st, 2017 12:15 AM Author: burgundy nursing home turdskin Don't expect to get any helpful advice here. Poasters would have you believe that anyone who graduated below median is fucked and might as well work at Starbucks.
I know plenty of people who graduated below median at T25 ITE circa 2009-11 that couldn't find shit for the first 6 months and were legit depressed. All of them eventually found something and several are in pretty good positions now. How did they do it? I'm not sure but it wasn't the Biglaw route. The job market is much better these days so maybe look for contract administrator type work, doc review, law clerk for a state court judge or prosecutor, public defender, find some shitlaw office that'll pay you shit but give you experience, look for govt work at Fed, State and local level, gotta get creative with your search. |
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Date: September 2nd, 2017 10:45 AM Author: Claret Mewling Alpha Hall Not sure if it's been mentioned, but maybe try for a compliance gig. You can work your way up compliance or maybe move over to legal at some point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3716732&forum_id=2#34121581) |
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Date: September 4th, 2017 10:51 PM Author: Electric Idiot Garrison you can still make it in shitlaw. go be a prosecutor in some rural jurisdiction where nobody wants to work. you'll get trial experience and can then go join the defense bar or just be a bitch prosecutor making $90K a year at peak earning. some prosecutors transition into other stuff pretty well. but your only chance to be valuable and hirable is a skilled 'courtroom' attorney.
nobody is going to give you a good job based on your current credentials. |
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I have been an exemplary employee, and I have used CSLG principles to create referral sources for myself that have paid big dividends. I am going to leave this firm soon, mainly because I just don't feel cut out for being an employee or even a partner. I know I can do better for myself and hopefully soon-to-be family as a solo practitioner.
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I'm happy. I am not defined by law school. I am who I am, and I like who I am. Can't wait to see what the future holds. I think I will probably practice law for 15 or so more years, and then I will take cases rarely and live off of investments after that while chasing good weather. |
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