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Swashbuckling Home Police Squad
  09/15/17
HOOOOOly fuck at these results: http://www.top-law-school...
Swashbuckling Home Police Squad
  09/15/17
holy shit
primrose shaky den
  09/15/17
unreal
aphrodisiac sooty hospital
  09/15/17
Ljl at the 2.9/164 chick getting into Georgetown
laughsome principal's office
  09/16/17
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naked filthpig partner
  09/16/17
check your privilege cracker
Fishy reading party spot
  09/16/17
where did you go
Swashbuckling Home Police Squad
  09/16/17
...
naked filthpig partner
  09/16/17
with a 168? well damn. if only u had a time machine
Swashbuckling Home Police Squad
  09/16/17
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naked filthpig partner
  09/16/17
describe how the fuck you couldn't maintain your gpa with du...
Swashbuckling Home Police Squad
  09/16/17
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naked filthpig partner
  09/16/17
3.7 in flame major at Yale is probably median! l o l
Sienna gaping factory reset button
  09/16/17
our median is not nearly that high its like 3.5
Ebony cerebral menage
  09/16/17
median pwned in econ/bio/other departments that give real gr...
Sienna gaping factory reset button
  09/16/17
my friend got a C in econ 1 (where the curve was a B-) and t...
Stirring Twisted Whorehouse
  09/16/17
Ljl I copped 3.9 and 173 and got dinged at all of HYS
razzmatazz orange field
  09/16/17
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naked filthpig partner
  09/16/17
whered you go
Swashbuckling Home Police Squad
  09/16/17
The sad thing about these admissions practices is that they ...
Unholy trust fund
  09/15/17
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multi-colored pearly athletic conference
  09/15/17
10 years ago these tards wouldn't get hired as support staff
ivory insanely creepy karate
  09/16/17
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naked filthpig partner
  09/16/17
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multi-colored pearly athletic conference
  09/16/17
I think people would rather go to a better school than have ...
Ebony cerebral menage
  09/16/17
lolno, this is why I will never let a black dr treat me
Fishy reading party spot
  09/16/17
what about for minor shit
Sienna gaping factory reset button
  09/16/17
not for anything
Fishy reading party spot
  09/16/17
not for a fucking cough my nig?
Sienna gaping factory reset button
  09/16/17
I don't go to random doctors, I would see my GP. Obviously m...
Fishy reading party spot
  09/16/17
Id rather just see a nurse/RN
Stirring Twisted Whorehouse
  09/16/17
I specified that I was talking about normal people
Ebony cerebral menage
  09/16/17
The reason why one might be wary of black doctors is indeed ...
odious henna chad
  09/16/17
"normal" people like being treated by doctors that...
Fishy reading party spot
  09/16/17
State your lsat score before I engage you further.
boyish copper parlor
  09/16/17
"It generally helps, but my friend with a 150 LSAT only...
Umber hell philosopher-king
  09/15/17
mid 160's lsat is top 75% at GULC now, full stop.
Chartreuse Ungodly Cruise Ship
  09/15/17
georgeTTTown out of the T14
ivory insanely creepy karate
  09/16/17
...
Swashbuckling Home Police Squad
  09/15/17
My buddy (who is African-American) had a very low college GP...
Cream Plaza Striped Hyena
  09/16/17
Maybe a random white or Asian person with shit scores would ...
exciting wrinkle dilemma
  09/16/17
what do you mean by thriving also, his lsat may have been v...
Swashbuckling Home Police Squad
  09/16/17
By "some" you mean literally ten or so per year. D...
laughsome principal's office
  09/16/17
...
naked filthpig partner
  09/16/17
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Ebony cerebral menage
  09/16/17
People used to READ LAW to become lawyers. Of course the LSA...
Appetizing Shimmering Newt Immigrant
  09/16/17
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multi-colored pearly athletic conference
  09/16/17
"Thriving"
razzmatazz orange field
  09/16/17
...
multi-colored pearly athletic conference
  09/16/17
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naked filthpig partner
  09/16/17
this is fucking absurd.
Fishy reading party spot
  09/16/17
what were your stats and where did you go
Swashbuckling Home Police Squad
  09/16/17
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naked filthpig partner
  09/16/17
...
multi-colored pearly athletic conference
  09/16/17
Ljl
Stirring Twisted Whorehouse
  09/16/17
jfc
fighting bateful dingle berry
  09/16/17
lmfao
Pearl mewling station
  09/18/17
The crazy thing is that all these people are competing to g...
frisky alcoholic halford gas station
  09/16/17
What percent of t14 alums would support affirmative action t...
contagious azn
  09/16/17
like all of Yale and nyu
Ebony cerebral menage
  09/16/17
I've never understood: why do non-white leftists who are sup...
odious henna chad
  09/16/17
Bluesmoke is right. This policy is more popular than free ad...
vigorous red mother
  09/16/17
Sigh. I spent a lot of my life bitter that as I struggled...
big-titted center fortuitous meteor
  09/16/17
hahahha then you realized it's all flame and being a &quo...
Stirring Twisted Whorehouse
  09/16/17
actually my place is only about $100K less in value than the...
big-titted center fortuitous meteor
  09/16/17
wait...i don't get it. are you a URM annoyed that we're crit...
Swashbuckling Home Police Squad
  09/16/17
Were you at a city-wide magnet like Stuyvesant or something?...
tripping fragrant hominid
  09/16/17
I was in city-wide accelerated learning programs from an ear...
big-titted center fortuitous meteor
  09/18/17
oh the irony that affirmative action incentivizes racism
Offensive federal stain headpube
  09/16/17
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Stirring Twisted Whorehouse
  09/16/17
Um, it's not an "incentive," you idiot.
At-the-ready people who are hurt chapel
  09/18/17


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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:06 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Home Police Squad

https://7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/11854/urm-admissions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218872)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:08 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Home Police Squad

HOOOOOly fuck at these results:

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=275052&hilit=results

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218882)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:22 PM
Author: primrose shaky den

holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218955)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:26 PM
Author: aphrodisiac sooty hospital

unreal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218980)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:11 AM
Author: laughsome principal's office

Ljl at the 2.9/164 chick getting into Georgetown

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34222962)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:30 PM
Author: naked filthpig partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223559)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:31 PM
Author: Fishy reading party spot

check your privilege cracker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223568)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:34 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Home Police Squad

where did you go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223580)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:39 PM
Author: naked filthpig partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223589)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:42 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Home Police Squad

with a 168? well damn. if only u had a time machine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223613)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:45 PM
Author: naked filthpig partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223626)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:01 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Home Police Squad

describe how the fuck you couldn't maintain your gpa with dumbs as classmates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223720)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:02 PM
Author: naked filthpig partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223729)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:43 PM
Author: Sienna gaping factory reset button

3.7 in flame major at Yale is probably median!

l o l

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223620)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:49 PM
Author: Ebony cerebral menage

our median is not nearly that high

its like 3.5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223643)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:08 PM
Author: Sienna gaping factory reset button

median pwned in econ/bio/other departments that give real grades -> went hiding in latin american studies to inflate my gpa

finished above median!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223764)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Stirring Twisted Whorehouse

my friend got a C in econ 1 (where the curve was a B-) and then promptly transferred to a poli sci major where he graduated with a 3.9 GPA...no flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224783)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: razzmatazz orange field

Ljl I copped 3.9 and 173 and got dinged at all of HYS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223633)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:51 PM
Author: naked filthpig partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223656)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:01 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Home Police Squad

whered you go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223723)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:17 PM
Author: Unholy trust fund

The sad thing about these admissions practices is that they make it rational to assume the URM graduates are less capable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218928)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:17 PM
Author: multi-colored pearly athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218929)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:12 AM
Author: ivory insanely creepy karate

10 years ago these tards wouldn't get hired as support staff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34222965)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:30 PM
Author: naked filthpig partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223561)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:31 PM
Author: multi-colored pearly athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223564)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:17 PM
Author: Ebony cerebral menage

I think people would rather go to a better school than have people "assume" they're smarter

Normal people (not race obsessed xo posters) dont have race and LSAT charts memorized and judge people as individuals anyway. Its easy to talk to someone and tell whether they're smart anyway. You dont need to do some sort of weird extrapolation nased on their race's median scores.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223808)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:18 PM
Author: Fishy reading party spot

lolno, this is why I will never let a black dr treat me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223815)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:20 PM
Author: Sienna gaping factory reset button

what about for minor shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223826)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:36 PM
Author: Fishy reading party spot

not for anything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223953)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:37 PM
Author: Sienna gaping factory reset button

not for a fucking cough my nig?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223965)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:38 PM
Author: Fishy reading party spot

I don't go to random doctors, I would see my GP. Obviously my GP isn't going to be black.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223972)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:40 PM
Author: Stirring Twisted Whorehouse

Id rather just see a nurse/RN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223986)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:21 PM
Author: Ebony cerebral menage

I specified that I was talking about normal people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223834)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:32 PM
Author: odious henna chad

The reason why one might be wary of black doctors is indeed well-known to "normal people," as its having seeped into popular culture attests: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgqUQ17sYm0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223923)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:37 PM
Author: Fishy reading party spot

"normal" people like being treated by doctors that actually earned their med school admission.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223959)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 2:14 PM
Author: boyish copper parlor

State your lsat score before I engage you further.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224180)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:29 PM
Author: Umber hell philosopher-king

"It generally helps, but my friend with a 150 LSAT only got into Georgetown"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218992)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:29 PM
Author: Chartreuse Ungodly Cruise Ship

mid 160's lsat is top 75% at GULC now, full stop.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218995)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: ivory insanely creepy karate

georgeTTTown out of the T14

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34222967)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 5:25 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Home Police Squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34219792)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: Cream Plaza Striped Hyena

My buddy (who is African-American) had a very low college GPA and got into an HYS, probably with the benefit of affirmative action. He seems to be thriving at a V20 firm. I'm not sure LSAT and GPA are all they're cracked up to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34222966)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:28 AM
Author: exciting wrinkle dilemma

Maybe a random white or Asian person with shit scores would thrive too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34222997)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:56 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Home Police Squad

what do you mean by thriving

also, his lsat may have been very high (some blacks score high), which means he's smart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223121)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:58 AM
Author: laughsome principal's office

By "some" you mean literally ten or so per year. Did you ever read that article about black performance on the LSAT? It was insane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223128)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:49 PM
Author: naked filthpig partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223645)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:50 PM
Author: Ebony cerebral menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223649)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:23 PM
Author: Appetizing Shimmering Newt Immigrant

People used to READ LAW to become lawyers. Of course the LSAT isn't the end all be all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223527)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:31 PM
Author: multi-colored pearly athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223567)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:41 PM
Author: razzmatazz orange field

"Thriving"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223610)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:46 PM
Author: multi-colored pearly athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223629)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: naked filthpig partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223634)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:32 PM
Author: Fishy reading party spot

this is fucking absurd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223572)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:34 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Home Police Squad

what were your stats and where did you go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223581)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:51 PM
Author: naked filthpig partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223654)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:52 PM
Author: multi-colored pearly athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223661)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:35 PM
Author: Stirring Twisted Whorehouse

Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223946)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 4:29 PM
Author: fighting bateful dingle berry

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224993)



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Date: September 18th, 2017 11:49 PM
Author: Pearl mewling station

lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34240512)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:55 PM
Author: frisky alcoholic halford gas station

The crazy thing is that all these people are competing to get into law school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223679)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:11 PM
Author: contagious azn

What percent of t14 alums would support affirmative action to this extent? It must be much less than half.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223784)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:20 PM
Author: Ebony cerebral menage

like all of Yale and nyu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223829)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:45 PM
Author: odious henna chad

I've never understood: why do non-white leftists who are super in favor of affirmative action get offended if you suggest that they themselves were affirmative-action recipients? If it's perfectly fine and justified to admit people who would not have qualified on merit alone, then why treat it as an accusation of something shameful?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224015)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:34 PM
Author: vigorous red mother

Bluesmoke is right. This policy is more popular than free adderall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223937)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 3:53 PM
Author: big-titted center fortuitous meteor

Sigh.

I spent a lot of my life bitter that as I struggled in a terrible neighborhood with harsh parents who did nothing to nurture my educational aspirations, the Jewish kids across town were getting everything in life they ever wanted, treated like gold in their families, vacations in St. Maarten, summers off, no work after school, and then top of the class.

I then struggled bitterly through undergrad, not understanding the chance misfortune of my circumstances, as they enjoyed ivory tower academic bliss knowing that their parents were going to cover their tuition every semester, gold watches on their arms, etc.

I thought it was great payback that I got into law schools some of them didn't. I thought it was a testament to my character for all the shit I had to go through that they didn't. This country loves an underdog. Except when we're talking about AA on XO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224766)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Stirring Twisted Whorehouse

hahahha

then you realized it's all flame and being a "working professional" sucks huge balls? and that you will never have as much money as someone who inherits it? and that striving is all for nothing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224771)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 4:00 PM
Author: big-titted center fortuitous meteor

actually my place is only about $100K less in value than the houses in that part of town where these kids came from, so I do see a thinning in the net worth gap.

But yes, I still don't think of myself as rich and am now questioning what I saw as rich back in secondary school. I suppose if any of those families were truly wealthy they would have had their kids in private school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224805)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 4:23 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Home Police Squad

wait...i don't get it. are you a URM annoyed that we're criticizing AA? or annoyed that you got AA?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224942)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 5:15 PM
Author: tripping fragrant hominid

Were you at a city-wide magnet like Stuyvesant or something? Otherwise why would you have had so many interactions with Jewish kids across town that you had such a keen sense of their family dynamics and vacation itineraries, or is the idea that these were the notions you had about hypothetical Jews at the time? I'm a White Catholic that grew up around a ton of Jews who had more money than me, and I never envied them because their parents would be so weird about things, whether that meant being cheap or being showy and tacky. It wasn't until I met the legit super rich wasps and model minorities I knew in law school that I developed a truly deep sense of envy and frustration.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34225293)



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Date: September 18th, 2017 7:43 AM
Author: big-titted center fortuitous meteor

I was in city-wide accelerated learning programs from an early age because I tested well. So I was thrown in with them from an early age. But being from the same town and in the same high school, why wouldn't I have had interactions with them if I was in the same classes with them (study groups, etc.)?

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Date: September 16th, 2017 5:45 PM
Author: Offensive federal stain headpube

oh the irony that affirmative action incentivizes racism

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Date: September 16th, 2017 5:46 PM
Author: Stirring Twisted Whorehouse



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Date: September 18th, 2017 11:24 PM
Author: At-the-ready people who are hurt chapel

Um, it's not an "incentive," you idiot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34240423)