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Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon
  09/15/17
HOOOOOly fuck at these results: http://www.top-law-school...
Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon
  09/15/17
holy shit
nudist chest-beating mad cow disease police squad
  09/15/17
unreal
tripping background story chapel
  09/15/17
Ljl at the 2.9/164 chick getting into Georgetown
Violet travel guidebook crackhouse
  09/16/17
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Cerebral slimy genital piercing
  09/16/17
check your privilege cracker
Magical Indian Lodge
  09/16/17
where did you go
Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon
  09/16/17
...
Cerebral slimy genital piercing
  09/16/17
with a 168? well damn. if only u had a time machine
Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon
  09/16/17
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Cerebral slimy genital piercing
  09/16/17
describe how the fuck you couldn't maintain your gpa with du...
Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon
  09/16/17
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Cerebral slimy genital piercing
  09/16/17
3.7 in flame major at Yale is probably median! l o l
thriller hall
  09/16/17
our median is not nearly that high its like 3.5
appetizing rambunctious place of business
  09/16/17
median pwned in econ/bio/other departments that give real gr...
thriller hall
  09/16/17
my friend got a C in econ 1 (where the curve was a B-) and t...
180 crimson whorehouse rigor
  09/16/17
Ljl I copped 3.9 and 173 and got dinged at all of HYS
Stimulating learning disabled jewess address
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Cerebral slimy genital piercing
  09/16/17
whered you go
Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon
  09/16/17
The sad thing about these admissions practices is that they ...
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  09/15/17
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  09/15/17
10 years ago these tards wouldn't get hired as support staff
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  09/16/17
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Cerebral slimy genital piercing
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I think people would rather go to a better school than have ...
appetizing rambunctious place of business
  09/16/17
lolno, this is why I will never let a black dr treat me
Magical Indian Lodge
  09/16/17
what about for minor shit
thriller hall
  09/16/17
not for anything
Magical Indian Lodge
  09/16/17
not for a fucking cough my nig?
thriller hall
  09/16/17
I don't go to random doctors, I would see my GP. Obviously m...
Magical Indian Lodge
  09/16/17
Id rather just see a nurse/RN
180 crimson whorehouse rigor
  09/16/17
I specified that I was talking about normal people
appetizing rambunctious place of business
  09/16/17
The reason why one might be wary of black doctors is indeed ...
shimmering base headpube
  09/16/17
"normal" people like being treated by doctors that...
Magical Indian Lodge
  09/16/17
State your lsat score before I engage you further.
aquamarine stag film roast beef
  09/16/17
"It generally helps, but my friend with a 150 LSAT only...
dashing philosopher-king
  09/15/17
mid 160's lsat is top 75% at GULC now, full stop.
ivory impertinent jap
  09/15/17
georgeTTTown out of the T14
Lake rigpig
  09/16/17
...
Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon
  09/15/17
My buddy (who is African-American) had a very low college GP...
big mauve striped hyena
  09/16/17
Maybe a random white or Asian person with shit scores would ...
Excitant meetinghouse elastic band
  09/16/17
what do you mean by thriving also, his lsat may have been v...
Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon
  09/16/17
By "some" you mean literally ten or so per year. D...
Violet travel guidebook crackhouse
  09/16/17
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Cerebral slimy genital piercing
  09/16/17
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appetizing rambunctious place of business
  09/16/17
People used to READ LAW to become lawyers. Of course the LSA...
Passionate Church Building Reading Party
  09/16/17
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Overrated field bbw
  09/16/17
"Thriving"
Stimulating learning disabled jewess address
  09/16/17
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Overrated field bbw
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Cerebral slimy genital piercing
  09/16/17
this is fucking absurd.
Magical Indian Lodge
  09/16/17
what were your stats and where did you go
Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon
  09/16/17
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Cerebral slimy genital piercing
  09/16/17
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Overrated field bbw
  09/16/17
Ljl
180 crimson whorehouse rigor
  09/16/17
jfc
Black institution
  09/16/17
lmfao
self-absorbed tank
  09/18/17
The crazy thing is that all these people are competing to g...
brindle adventurous dopamine
  09/16/17
What percent of t14 alums would support affirmative action t...
translucent hateful depressive
  09/16/17
like all of Yale and nyu
appetizing rambunctious place of business
  09/16/17
I've never understood: why do non-white leftists who are sup...
shimmering base headpube
  09/16/17
Bluesmoke is right. This policy is more popular than free ad...
Silver jew
  09/16/17
Sigh. I spent a lot of my life bitter that as I struggled...
opaque multi-colored home becky
  09/16/17
hahahha then you realized it's all flame and being a &quo...
180 crimson whorehouse rigor
  09/16/17
actually my place is only about $100K less in value than the...
opaque multi-colored home becky
  09/16/17
wait...i don't get it. are you a URM annoyed that we're crit...
Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon
  09/16/17
Were you at a city-wide magnet like Stuyvesant or something?...
vigorous location
  09/16/17
I was in city-wide accelerated learning programs from an ear...
opaque multi-colored home becky
  09/18/17
oh the irony that affirmative action incentivizes racism
cheese-eating clear pocket flask senate
  09/16/17
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180 crimson whorehouse rigor
  09/16/17
Um, it's not an "incentive," you idiot.
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  09/18/17


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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:06 PM
Author: Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon

https://7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/11854/urm-admissions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218872)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:08 PM
Author: Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon

HOOOOOly fuck at these results:

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=275052&hilit=results

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218882)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:22 PM
Author: nudist chest-beating mad cow disease police squad

holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218955)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:26 PM
Author: tripping background story chapel

unreal

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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:11 AM
Author: Violet travel guidebook crackhouse

Ljl at the 2.9/164 chick getting into Georgetown

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34222962)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:30 PM
Author: Cerebral slimy genital piercing



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:31 PM
Author: Magical Indian Lodge

check your privilege cracker

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223568)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:34 PM
Author: Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon

where did you go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223580)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:39 PM
Author: Cerebral slimy genital piercing



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:42 PM
Author: Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon

with a 168? well damn. if only u had a time machine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223613)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:45 PM
Author: Cerebral slimy genital piercing



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:01 PM
Author: Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon

describe how the fuck you couldn't maintain your gpa with dumbs as classmates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223720)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:02 PM
Author: Cerebral slimy genital piercing



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:43 PM
Author: thriller hall

3.7 in flame major at Yale is probably median!

l o l

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223620)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:49 PM
Author: appetizing rambunctious place of business

our median is not nearly that high

its like 3.5

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223643)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:08 PM
Author: thriller hall

median pwned in econ/bio/other departments that give real grades -> went hiding in latin american studies to inflate my gpa

finished above median!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223764)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: 180 crimson whorehouse rigor

my friend got a C in econ 1 (where the curve was a B-) and then promptly transferred to a poli sci major where he graduated with a 3.9 GPA...no flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224783)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: Stimulating learning disabled jewess address

Ljl I copped 3.9 and 173 and got dinged at all of HYS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223633)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:51 PM
Author: Cerebral slimy genital piercing



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:01 PM
Author: Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon

whered you go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223723)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:17 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Chestnut Stage Hissy Fit

The sad thing about these admissions practices is that they make it rational to assume the URM graduates are less capable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218928)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:17 PM
Author: Overrated field bbw



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:12 AM
Author: Lake rigpig

10 years ago these tards wouldn't get hired as support staff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34222965)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:30 PM
Author: Cerebral slimy genital piercing



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:31 PM
Author: Overrated field bbw



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:17 PM
Author: appetizing rambunctious place of business

I think people would rather go to a better school than have people "assume" they're smarter

Normal people (not race obsessed xo posters) dont have race and LSAT charts memorized and judge people as individuals anyway. Its easy to talk to someone and tell whether they're smart anyway. You dont need to do some sort of weird extrapolation nased on their race's median scores.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223808)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:18 PM
Author: Magical Indian Lodge

lolno, this is why I will never let a black dr treat me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223815)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:20 PM
Author: thriller hall

what about for minor shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223826)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:36 PM
Author: Magical Indian Lodge

not for anything

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223953)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:37 PM
Author: thriller hall

not for a fucking cough my nig?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223965)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:38 PM
Author: Magical Indian Lodge

I don't go to random doctors, I would see my GP. Obviously my GP isn't going to be black.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223972)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:40 PM
Author: 180 crimson whorehouse rigor

Id rather just see a nurse/RN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223986)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:21 PM
Author: appetizing rambunctious place of business

I specified that I was talking about normal people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223834)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:32 PM
Author: shimmering base headpube

The reason why one might be wary of black doctors is indeed well-known to "normal people," as its having seeped into popular culture attests: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgqUQ17sYm0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223923)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:37 PM
Author: Magical Indian Lodge

"normal" people like being treated by doctors that actually earned their med school admission.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223959)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 2:14 PM
Author: aquamarine stag film roast beef

State your lsat score before I engage you further.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224180)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:29 PM
Author: dashing philosopher-king

"It generally helps, but my friend with a 150 LSAT only got into Georgetown"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218992)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 3:29 PM
Author: ivory impertinent jap

mid 160's lsat is top 75% at GULC now, full stop.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34218995)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: Lake rigpig

georgeTTTown out of the T14

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34222967)



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Date: September 15th, 2017 5:25 PM
Author: Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34219792)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:13 AM
Author: big mauve striped hyena

My buddy (who is African-American) had a very low college GPA and got into an HYS, probably with the benefit of affirmative action. He seems to be thriving at a V20 firm. I'm not sure LSAT and GPA are all they're cracked up to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34222966)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:28 AM
Author: Excitant meetinghouse elastic band

Maybe a random white or Asian person with shit scores would thrive too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34222997)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:56 AM
Author: Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon

what do you mean by thriving

also, his lsat may have been very high (some blacks score high), which means he's smart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223121)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 10:58 AM
Author: Violet travel guidebook crackhouse

By "some" you mean literally ten or so per year. Did you ever read that article about black performance on the LSAT? It was insane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223128)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:49 PM
Author: Cerebral slimy genital piercing



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:50 PM
Author: appetizing rambunctious place of business



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:23 PM
Author: Passionate Church Building Reading Party

People used to READ LAW to become lawyers. Of course the LSAT isn't the end all be all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223527)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:31 PM
Author: Overrated field bbw



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:41 PM
Author: Stimulating learning disabled jewess address

"Thriving"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223610)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:46 PM
Author: Overrated field bbw



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:47 PM
Author: Cerebral slimy genital piercing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223634)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:32 PM
Author: Magical Indian Lodge

this is fucking absurd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223572)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:34 PM
Author: Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon

what were your stats and where did you go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223581)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:51 PM
Author: Cerebral slimy genital piercing



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:52 PM
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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:35 PM
Author: 180 crimson whorehouse rigor

Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223946)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 4:29 PM
Author: Black institution

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224993)



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Date: September 18th, 2017 11:49 PM
Author: self-absorbed tank

lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34240512)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 12:55 PM
Author: brindle adventurous dopamine

The crazy thing is that all these people are competing to get into law school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223679)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:11 PM
Author: translucent hateful depressive

What percent of t14 alums would support affirmative action to this extent? It must be much less than half.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223784)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:20 PM
Author: appetizing rambunctious place of business

like all of Yale and nyu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223829)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:45 PM
Author: shimmering base headpube

I've never understood: why do non-white leftists who are super in favor of affirmative action get offended if you suggest that they themselves were affirmative-action recipients? If it's perfectly fine and justified to admit people who would not have qualified on merit alone, then why treat it as an accusation of something shameful?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224015)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 1:34 PM
Author: Silver jew

Bluesmoke is right. This policy is more popular than free adderall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34223937)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 3:53 PM
Author: opaque multi-colored home becky

Sigh.

I spent a lot of my life bitter that as I struggled in a terrible neighborhood with harsh parents who did nothing to nurture my educational aspirations, the Jewish kids across town were getting everything in life they ever wanted, treated like gold in their families, vacations in St. Maarten, summers off, no work after school, and then top of the class.

I then struggled bitterly through undergrad, not understanding the chance misfortune of my circumstances, as they enjoyed ivory tower academic bliss knowing that their parents were going to cover their tuition every semester, gold watches on their arms, etc.

I thought it was great payback that I got into law schools some of them didn't. I thought it was a testament to my character for all the shit I had to go through that they didn't. This country loves an underdog. Except when we're talking about AA on XO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224766)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: 180 crimson whorehouse rigor

hahahha

then you realized it's all flame and being a "working professional" sucks huge balls? and that you will never have as much money as someone who inherits it? and that striving is all for nothing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224771)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 4:00 PM
Author: opaque multi-colored home becky

actually my place is only about $100K less in value than the houses in that part of town where these kids came from, so I do see a thinning in the net worth gap.

But yes, I still don't think of myself as rich and am now questioning what I saw as rich back in secondary school. I suppose if any of those families were truly wealthy they would have had their kids in private school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224805)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 4:23 PM
Author: Olive Well-lubricated Center Dragon

wait...i don't get it. are you a URM annoyed that we're criticizing AA? or annoyed that you got AA?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34224942)



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Date: September 16th, 2017 5:15 PM
Author: vigorous location

Were you at a city-wide magnet like Stuyvesant or something? Otherwise why would you have had so many interactions with Jewish kids across town that you had such a keen sense of their family dynamics and vacation itineraries, or is the idea that these were the notions you had about hypothetical Jews at the time? I'm a White Catholic that grew up around a ton of Jews who had more money than me, and I never envied them because their parents would be so weird about things, whether that meant being cheap or being showy and tacky. It wasn't until I met the legit super rich wasps and model minorities I knew in law school that I developed a truly deep sense of envy and frustration.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34225293)



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Date: September 18th, 2017 7:43 AM
Author: opaque multi-colored home becky

I was in city-wide accelerated learning programs from an early age because I tested well. So I was thrown in with them from an early age. But being from the same town and in the same high school, why wouldn't I have had interactions with them if I was in the same classes with them (study groups, etc.)?

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Date: September 16th, 2017 5:45 PM
Author: cheese-eating clear pocket flask senate

oh the irony that affirmative action incentivizes racism

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Date: September 16th, 2017 5:46 PM
Author: 180 crimson whorehouse rigor



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Date: September 18th, 2017 11:24 PM
Author: trip topaz masturbator

Um, it's not an "incentive," you idiot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3733028&forum_id=2#34240423)