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$70/hour for death penalty cases [NYT]

Alabama’s method of handling indigent defense has long been ...
Avocado incel scourge upon the earth
  09/20/17
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Blathering comical brunch
  09/20/17
where do we apply
brindle exhilarant pistol
  09/20/17
Alabama got rid of the Last Meal b/c it was too nice The st...
Exciting Tanning Salon Turdskin
  09/20/17
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frisky hominid deer antler
  09/20/17
half the pay rate? isn't that like $150k
beady-eyed coiffed french chef bawdyhouse
  09/20/17
140k for 2000 billable hours not included cut bills overhead...
fuchsia thriller dragon
  09/20/17
$70/hour at the most stressful trial work? Not even insuranc...
Greedy Bossy Shitlib
  09/20/17
And you spend your life dealing with scumbags and visiting p...
zombie-like frozen fat ankles
  09/20/17
not even remotely close if you are talking about a 40 hour w...
Hot odious temple boistinker
  09/20/17
$70 per hour in alabama should be easily $200 per hour in NY...
Abusive Dashing Piazza
  09/20/17
$60 per hour is the panel rate in NY. LJL. And you cant get ...
ocher shaky stage
  09/20/17
LOL so $145,000 in alabama is too TTT to get guilty nigs a d...
180 center
  09/20/17
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Blathering comical brunch
  09/20/17
Yeah, and of course the appellate attorney will call anythin...
Plum field knife
  09/20/17
I wouldn't get out of bed for $70/hour
zombie-like frozen fat ankles
  09/20/17
It'd be a raise for me
fuchsia thriller dragon
  09/20/17
i never get out of bed
brindle exhilarant pistol
  09/20/17
yeah, you would.
Vermilion bat shit crazy trump supporter depressive
  09/20/17
real dollars, not abbo bux
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  09/20/17
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Blathering comical brunch
  09/20/17
Looks like they left three or four zeroes off civil appeals
zombie-like frozen fat ankles
  09/20/17
lol at flat fees. how to get mega fucked in 2 easy steps. ...
Hot odious temple boistinker
  09/20/17
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opaque patrolman
  09/20/17
Lmao. Just do try a first degree felony for $1,875
Greedy Bossy Shitlib
  09/20/17
bobby, i reviewed the evidence against you yesterday between...
Hot odious temple boistinker
  09/20/17
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Plum field knife
  09/20/17
yup
Ultramarine Cerebral Location Hissy Fit
  09/20/17
you guys know that Alabama isn't a real democratic form of g...
Ultramarine Cerebral Location Hissy Fit
  09/20/17
Libtard paradises like NY generally pay even less because la...
ocher shaky stage
  09/20/17


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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:14 AM
Author: Avocado incel scourge upon the earth

Alabama’s method of handling indigent defense has long been criticized as deeply flawed, particularly in death penalty cases. It underwent some changes in 2011, but judges still handpick defense lawyers, and they are paid only $70 an hour — less than half the federal pay rate for capital defenders and far too low to attract experienced death penalty lawyers, said Lisa Borden, who oversees pro bono programs at the Baker Donelson law firm in Birmingham. In 2011, former judges on the state’s highest courts told the United States Supreme Court that capital defendants in Alabama faced “a lack of qualified counsel at all stages.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/us/alabama-kharon-davis-speedy.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248557)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:48 AM
Author: Blathering comical brunch



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: brindle exhilarant pistol

where do we apply

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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: Exciting Tanning Salon Turdskin

Alabama got rid of the Last Meal b/c it was too nice

The state goes hard, probably thinks 70 dollars way too much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248565)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:45 AM
Author: frisky hominid deer antler



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:17 AM
Author: beady-eyed coiffed french chef bawdyhouse

half the pay rate? isn't that like $150k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248567)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:20 AM
Author: fuchsia thriller dragon

140k for 2000 billable hours not included cut bills overhead expenses office and taxes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248576)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:49 AM
Author: Greedy Bossy Shitlib

$70/hour at the most stressful trial work? Not even insurance defense lawyers would work for that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248721)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:51 AM
Author: zombie-like frozen fat ankles

And you spend your life dealing with scumbags and visiting prisons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248728)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:16 AM
Author: Hot odious temple boistinker

not even remotely close if you are talking about a 40 hour work week. your bills are screened. if you think you can bill for 100% of your time, you're either

a. an idiot; or

b. in biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248820)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:27 AM
Author: Abusive Dashing Piazza

$70 per hour in alabama should be easily $200 per hour in NYC. so how much does NY pay its death penalty attorneys?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248612)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:17 AM
Author: ocher shaky stage

$60 per hour is the panel rate in NY. LJL. And you cant get this work. Lawyers line up around the block to do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249859)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:38 AM
Author: 180 center

LOL so $145,000 in alabama is too TTT to get guilty nigs a decent defense?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248664)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:41 AM
Author: Blathering comical brunch



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:02 AM
Author: Plum field knife

Yeah, and of course the appellate attorney will call anything the trial attorney did malpractice.

Did your client testify? Well, that was malpractice because it allowed the state to bring in your client's 15 prior felonies.

Did your client not testify? Well, that was malpractice because you never let the jury hear their side of the story.

Don't really blame appellate counsel for throwing hail mary's, but it makes the jurisprudence lulzy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249737)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:48 AM
Author: zombie-like frozen fat ankles

I wouldn't get out of bed for $70/hour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248714)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:49 AM
Author: fuchsia thriller dragon

It'd be a raise for me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248719)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:50 AM
Author: brindle exhilarant pistol

i never get out of bed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248724)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:57 AM
Author: Vermilion bat shit crazy trump supporter depressive

yeah, you would.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248751)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:45 AM
Author: Pearl Submissive Black Woman Area

real dollars, not abbo bux

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248870)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:58 AM
Author: Blathering comical brunch



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:00 AM
Author: zombie-like frozen fat ankles

Looks like they left three or four zeroes off civil appeals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248765)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:15 AM
Author: Hot odious temple boistinker

lol at flat fees.

how to get mega fucked in 2 easy steps.

step 1-consider flat fee

step 2-accept flat fee

related, those fees are really fucking shitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248817)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:19 AM
Author: opaque patrolman



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:22 AM
Author: Greedy Bossy Shitlib

Lmao. Just do try a first degree felony for $1,875

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248832)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:27 AM
Author: Hot odious temple boistinker

bobby, i reviewed the evidence against you yesterday between 1:00 and 1:13.

my advice is that you accept the plea offer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248840)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:03 AM
Author: Plum field knife



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: Ultramarine Cerebral Location Hissy Fit

yup



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249800)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:11 AM
Author: Ultramarine Cerebral Location Hissy Fit

you guys know that Alabama isn't a real democratic form of govt right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249806)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:20 AM
Author: ocher shaky stage

Libtard paradises like NY generally pay even less because lawyers will do this shit for free.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249873)