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$70/hour for death penalty cases [NYT]

Alabama’s method of handling indigent defense has long been ...
crusty dragon trailer park
  09/20/17
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flickering federal theater stage
  09/20/17
where do we apply
honey-headed locus
  09/20/17
Alabama got rid of the Last Meal b/c it was too nice The st...
fragrant gaping
  09/20/17
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brilliant den
  09/20/17
half the pay rate? isn't that like $150k
Titillating sienna therapy keepsake machete
  09/20/17
140k for 2000 billable hours not included cut bills overhead...
razzmatazz regret
  09/20/17
$70/hour at the most stressful trial work? Not even insuranc...
haunting burgundy elastic band
  09/20/17
And you spend your life dealing with scumbags and visiting p...
zippy fluffy boltzmann
  09/20/17
not even remotely close if you are talking about a 40 hour w...
Exhilarant theater pozpig
  09/20/17
$70 per hour in alabama should be easily $200 per hour in NY...
Indecent circlehead church
  09/20/17
$60 per hour is the panel rate in NY. LJL. And you cant get ...
Rough-skinned Stag Film
  09/20/17
LOL so $145,000 in alabama is too TTT to get guilty nigs a d...
Diverse Pit Rigpig
  09/20/17
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flickering federal theater stage
  09/20/17
Yeah, and of course the appellate attorney will call anythin...
smoky skinny woman
  09/20/17
I wouldn't get out of bed for $70/hour
zippy fluffy boltzmann
  09/20/17
It'd be a raise for me
razzmatazz regret
  09/20/17
i never get out of bed
honey-headed locus
  09/20/17
yeah, you would.
vigorous lemon marketing idea
  09/20/17
real dollars, not abbo bux
trip shrine becky
  09/20/17
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flickering federal theater stage
  09/20/17
Looks like they left three or four zeroes off civil appeals
zippy fluffy boltzmann
  09/20/17
lol at flat fees. how to get mega fucked in 2 easy steps. ...
Exhilarant theater pozpig
  09/20/17
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pearly stirring home mother
  09/20/17
Lmao. Just do try a first degree felony for $1,875
haunting burgundy elastic band
  09/20/17
bobby, i reviewed the evidence against you yesterday between...
Exhilarant theater pozpig
  09/20/17
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smoky skinny woman
  09/20/17
yup
Blathering persian
  09/20/17
you guys know that Alabama isn't a real democratic form of g...
Blathering persian
  09/20/17
Libtard paradises like NY generally pay even less because la...
Rough-skinned Stag Film
  09/20/17


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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:14 AM
Author: crusty dragon trailer park

Alabama’s method of handling indigent defense has long been criticized as deeply flawed, particularly in death penalty cases. It underwent some changes in 2011, but judges still handpick defense lawyers, and they are paid only $70 an hour — less than half the federal pay rate for capital defenders and far too low to attract experienced death penalty lawyers, said Lisa Borden, who oversees pro bono programs at the Baker Donelson law firm in Birmingham. In 2011, former judges on the state’s highest courts told the United States Supreme Court that capital defendants in Alabama faced “a lack of qualified counsel at all stages.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/us/alabama-kharon-davis-speedy.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248557)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:48 AM
Author: flickering federal theater stage



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: honey-headed locus

where do we apply

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248563)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: fragrant gaping

Alabama got rid of the Last Meal b/c it was too nice

The state goes hard, probably thinks 70 dollars way too much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248565)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:45 AM
Author: brilliant den



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:17 AM
Author: Titillating sienna therapy keepsake machete

half the pay rate? isn't that like $150k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248567)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:20 AM
Author: razzmatazz regret

140k for 2000 billable hours not included cut bills overhead expenses office and taxes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248576)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:49 AM
Author: haunting burgundy elastic band

$70/hour at the most stressful trial work? Not even insurance defense lawyers would work for that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248721)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:51 AM
Author: zippy fluffy boltzmann

And you spend your life dealing with scumbags and visiting prisons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248728)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:16 AM
Author: Exhilarant theater pozpig

not even remotely close if you are talking about a 40 hour work week. your bills are screened. if you think you can bill for 100% of your time, you're either

a. an idiot; or

b. in biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248820)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:27 AM
Author: Indecent circlehead church

$70 per hour in alabama should be easily $200 per hour in NYC. so how much does NY pay its death penalty attorneys?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248612)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:17 AM
Author: Rough-skinned Stag Film

$60 per hour is the panel rate in NY. LJL. And you cant get this work. Lawyers line up around the block to do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249859)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:38 AM
Author: Diverse Pit Rigpig

LOL so $145,000 in alabama is too TTT to get guilty nigs a decent defense?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248664)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:41 AM
Author: flickering federal theater stage



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:02 AM
Author: smoky skinny woman

Yeah, and of course the appellate attorney will call anything the trial attorney did malpractice.

Did your client testify? Well, that was malpractice because it allowed the state to bring in your client's 15 prior felonies.

Did your client not testify? Well, that was malpractice because you never let the jury hear their side of the story.

Don't really blame appellate counsel for throwing hail mary's, but it makes the jurisprudence lulzy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249737)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:48 AM
Author: zippy fluffy boltzmann

I wouldn't get out of bed for $70/hour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248714)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:49 AM
Author: razzmatazz regret

It'd be a raise for me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248719)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:50 AM
Author: honey-headed locus

i never get out of bed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248724)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:57 AM
Author: vigorous lemon marketing idea

yeah, you would.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248751)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:45 AM
Author: trip shrine becky

real dollars, not abbo bux

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248870)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:58 AM
Author: flickering federal theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248754)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:00 AM
Author: zippy fluffy boltzmann

Looks like they left three or four zeroes off civil appeals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248765)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:15 AM
Author: Exhilarant theater pozpig

lol at flat fees.

how to get mega fucked in 2 easy steps.

step 1-consider flat fee

step 2-accept flat fee

related, those fees are really fucking shitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248817)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:19 AM
Author: pearly stirring home mother



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:22 AM
Author: haunting burgundy elastic band

Lmao. Just do try a first degree felony for $1,875

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248832)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:27 AM
Author: Exhilarant theater pozpig

bobby, i reviewed the evidence against you yesterday between 1:00 and 1:13.

my advice is that you accept the plea offer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248840)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:03 AM
Author: smoky skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249744)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: Blathering persian

yup



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249800)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:11 AM
Author: Blathering persian

you guys know that Alabama isn't a real democratic form of govt right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249806)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:20 AM
Author: Rough-skinned Stag Film

Libtard paradises like NY generally pay even less because lawyers will do this shit for free.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249873)