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$70/hour for death penalty cases [NYT]

Alabama’s method of handling indigent defense has long been ...
Stirring stead
  09/20/17
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red parlor
  09/20/17
where do we apply
Stimulating property
  09/20/17
Alabama got rid of the Last Meal b/c it was too nice The st...
cerise rehab
  09/20/17
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supple frozen school cafeteria reading party
  09/20/17
half the pay rate? isn't that like $150k
khaki wonderful legend ratface
  09/20/17
140k for 2000 billable hours not included cut bills overhead...
twisted deer antler hall
  09/20/17
$70/hour at the most stressful trial work? Not even insuranc...
Bronze underhanded main people principal's office
  09/20/17
And you spend your life dealing with scumbags and visiting p...
aromatic address
  09/20/17
not even remotely close if you are talking about a 40 hour w...
Embarrassed to the bone box office
  09/20/17
$70 per hour in alabama should be easily $200 per hour in NY...
stubborn theatre
  09/20/17
$60 per hour is the panel rate in NY. LJL. And you cant get ...
alcoholic ruddy abode preventive strike
  09/20/17
LOL so $145,000 in alabama is too TTT to get guilty nigs a d...
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red parlor
  09/20/17
Yeah, and of course the appellate attorney will call anythin...
scarlet den
  09/20/17
I wouldn't get out of bed for $70/hour
aromatic address
  09/20/17
It'd be a raise for me
twisted deer antler hall
  09/20/17
i never get out of bed
Stimulating property
  09/20/17
yeah, you would.
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  09/20/17
real dollars, not abbo bux
saffron stag film digit ratio
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red parlor
  09/20/17
Looks like they left three or four zeroes off civil appeals
aromatic address
  09/20/17
lol at flat fees. how to get mega fucked in 2 easy steps. ...
Embarrassed to the bone box office
  09/20/17
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Crusty honey-headed church
  09/20/17
Lmao. Just do try a first degree felony for $1,875
Bronze underhanded main people principal's office
  09/20/17
bobby, i reviewed the evidence against you yesterday between...
Embarrassed to the bone box office
  09/20/17
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scarlet den
  09/20/17
yup
startling casino
  09/20/17
you guys know that Alabama isn't a real democratic form of g...
startling casino
  09/20/17
Libtard paradises like NY generally pay even less because la...
alcoholic ruddy abode preventive strike
  09/20/17


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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:14 AM
Author: Stirring stead

Alabama’s method of handling indigent defense has long been criticized as deeply flawed, particularly in death penalty cases. It underwent some changes in 2011, but judges still handpick defense lawyers, and they are paid only $70 an hour — less than half the federal pay rate for capital defenders and far too low to attract experienced death penalty lawyers, said Lisa Borden, who oversees pro bono programs at the Baker Donelson law firm in Birmingham. In 2011, former judges on the state’s highest courts told the United States Supreme Court that capital defendants in Alabama faced “a lack of qualified counsel at all stages.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/us/alabama-kharon-davis-speedy.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248557)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:48 AM
Author: red parlor



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: Stimulating property

where do we apply

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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: cerise rehab

Alabama got rid of the Last Meal b/c it was too nice

The state goes hard, probably thinks 70 dollars way too much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248565)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:45 AM
Author: supple frozen school cafeteria reading party



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:17 AM
Author: khaki wonderful legend ratface

half the pay rate? isn't that like $150k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248567)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:20 AM
Author: twisted deer antler hall

140k for 2000 billable hours not included cut bills overhead expenses office and taxes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248576)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:49 AM
Author: Bronze underhanded main people principal's office

$70/hour at the most stressful trial work? Not even insurance defense lawyers would work for that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248721)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:51 AM
Author: aromatic address

And you spend your life dealing with scumbags and visiting prisons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248728)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:16 AM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone box office

not even remotely close if you are talking about a 40 hour work week. your bills are screened. if you think you can bill for 100% of your time, you're either

a. an idiot; or

b. in biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248820)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:27 AM
Author: stubborn theatre

$70 per hour in alabama should be easily $200 per hour in NYC. so how much does NY pay its death penalty attorneys?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248612)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:17 AM
Author: alcoholic ruddy abode preventive strike

$60 per hour is the panel rate in NY. LJL. And you cant get this work. Lawyers line up around the block to do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249859)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:38 AM
Author: Confused salmon mad cow disease theater stage

LOL so $145,000 in alabama is too TTT to get guilty nigs a decent defense?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248664)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:41 AM
Author: red parlor



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:02 AM
Author: scarlet den

Yeah, and of course the appellate attorney will call anything the trial attorney did malpractice.

Did your client testify? Well, that was malpractice because it allowed the state to bring in your client's 15 prior felonies.

Did your client not testify? Well, that was malpractice because you never let the jury hear their side of the story.

Don't really blame appellate counsel for throwing hail mary's, but it makes the jurisprudence lulzy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249737)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:48 AM
Author: aromatic address

I wouldn't get out of bed for $70/hour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248714)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:49 AM
Author: twisted deer antler hall

It'd be a raise for me

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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:50 AM
Author: Stimulating property

i never get out of bed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248724)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:57 AM
Author: Aquamarine parlour

yeah, you would.

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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:45 AM
Author: saffron stag film digit ratio

real dollars, not abbo bux

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248870)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 1:58 AM
Author: red parlor



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:00 AM
Author: aromatic address

Looks like they left three or four zeroes off civil appeals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248765)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:15 AM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone box office

lol at flat fees.

how to get mega fucked in 2 easy steps.

step 1-consider flat fee

step 2-accept flat fee

related, those fees are really fucking shitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248817)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:19 AM
Author: Crusty honey-headed church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248825)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:22 AM
Author: Bronze underhanded main people principal's office

Lmao. Just do try a first degree felony for $1,875

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248832)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 2:27 AM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone box office

bobby, i reviewed the evidence against you yesterday between 1:00 and 1:13.

my advice is that you accept the plea offer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34248840)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:03 AM
Author: scarlet den



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:10 AM
Author: startling casino

yup



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:11 AM
Author: startling casino

you guys know that Alabama isn't a real democratic form of govt right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249806)



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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:20 AM
Author: alcoholic ruddy abode preventive strike

Libtard paradises like NY generally pay even less because lawyers will do this shit for free.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3737250&forum_id=2#34249873)