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Forgot to tell wife that parents are visiting; Wife is going BALLISTIC
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:23 PM Author: insanely creepy bateful newt space Wife doesn't really like my parents, in particular, my mom. Parents live on the East Coast. We live on the West. Mom asked if they could come the weekend before Halloween and stay through halloween and go trick or treating with the kids. They'd stay in a hotel. I asked my wife if we were busy that weekend, but didn't tell her why I was asking. She said we weren't. I told my parents to come, but forgot to tell my wife.
Wife just found out when my mom was talking to my daughter that my parents were coming.
I am at work, so she is on IM just FLIPPING THE FUK OUT AT ME. Not looking forward to going home.
Ho lee fuk I get tired of this shit |
Date: September 20th, 2017 9:25 PM Author: Big Fluffy Queen Of The Night Describe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255290) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:30 PM Author: insanely creepy bateful newt space Wife doesn't really like my parents, in particular, my mom. Parents live on the East Coast. We live on the West.
Mom asked if they could come the weekend before Halloween and stay through halloween and go trick or treating with the kids. They'd stay in a hotel. I asked my wife if we were busy that weekend, but didn't tell her why I was asking. She said we weren't. I told my parents to come, but forgot to tell my wife.
Wife just found out when my mom was talking to my daughter that my parents were coming.
I am at work, so she is on IM just FLIPPING THE FUK OUT AT ME. Not looking forward to going home. |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:32 PM Author: house-broken nursing home messiness wait so this is weeks and weeks away? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255385) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:32 PM Author: insanely creepy bateful newt space yes. over a month. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255390) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 8:08 PM Author: charismatic dilemma community account Ok can you describe tho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34263893) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:29 PM Author: house-broken nursing home messiness You forgot to tell her? wtf how does that happen?
how often do they visit and how nearby do they live? |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:30 PM Author: insanely creepy bateful newt space other side of the country. Visit maybe 3 times a year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255358) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:31 PM Author: house-broken nursing home messiness how often do you and your wife talk?
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:32 PM Author: insanely creepy bateful newt space all day. She was on a work trip when we made the plans, so forgot to let her know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255386) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:32 PM Author: supple fiercely-loyal sneaky criminal Bro...how did you not tell her this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255379) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:32 PM Author: Orchid Private Investor show her this thread and see if she changes her position: http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3060247&mc=109&forum_id=2 |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:32 PM Author: gaped pale son of senegal dopamine ljl. if not flame, and theyre actually staying in a hotel, and not coming until halloween, tell her to stfu. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255384) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:54 AM Author: frum persian This is what I would do... but now I"m divorced... so, there's that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34259137) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 1:25 PM Author: Adventurous goyim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34260220) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 1:32 PM Author: Lascivious elite office Relevant disclaimer is relevant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34260319) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 1:19 PM Author: multi-colored tan whorehouse philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34260143) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:33 PM Author: Flesh mischievous bbw gay wizard I don't get it. You are giving more than one month notice. How did you "not tell her"? |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:34 PM Author: house-broken nursing home messiness cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255404) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:34 PM Author: insanely creepy bateful newt space I supposedly was supposed to get approval of the weekend because she has a really busy week at work the week before and my parents being there "ruins halloween".
Basically she just hates my mom.... |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:39 PM Author: Flesh mischievous bbw gay wizard She's acting like a child. Why did you marry someone so immature? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255462) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:41 PM Author: insanely creepy bateful newt space In every other way she is really mature....except when it comes to my mom. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255479) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:42 PM Author: house-broken nursing home messiness maybe your mom is a bitch
you should make sure she's nice to your wife so your wife doesnt dread her visits |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:43 PM Author: Flesh mischievous bbw gay wizard This (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255509) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:45 PM Author: insanely creepy bateful newt space My mom used to be a little judgmental, but that was years ago. She is perfectly nice now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255544) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 5:31 AM Author: crystalline dingle berry becky You need to side with your wife and daughter against your parents to the point of severing the relationship preemptively (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34257530) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 1:06 PM Author: Brilliant godawful parlor therapy Fuck that. Particularly if his wife is being unreasonable (seems likely). You have to manage that relationship, but always taking wife's side not matter what is NOT credited and makes you a pussy who deserves to be cucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34259962) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 1:20 PM Author: multi-colored tan whorehouse philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34260153) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:43 PM Author: Flesh mischievous bbw gay wizard In that case, you need to get them drunk together. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255507) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:33 PM Author: Galvanic claret mood jewess Assumed this was a Spaceporn poast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255401) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2017 2:25 AM Author: wine orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34266248) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:35 PM Author: Big Fluffy Queen Of The Night You are a huge fag for tolerating this disrespectful temper tantrum. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255415) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:39 PM Author: insanely creepy bateful newt space I am, although it is truly the only thing we fight about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255467) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:39 PM Author: unholy rehab old irish cottage Is it normal for your parents to stay a full week? Is the issue that it will be just her and them during the weekdays? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255456) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:42 PM Author: insanely creepy bateful newt space They usually stay for like 5 days. I get home from work a lot later than she does....so on the Monday before Halloween she might need to entertain them without me for like 2 hours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255494) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:54 PM Author: unholy rehab old irish cottage Sucks that she hates your mom. Does she have a legit reason or does she just perceive everything as some slight against her? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255651) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:57 PM Author: insanely creepy bateful newt space My mom can be a little high maintenance, but mostly just perceives everything as some slight against her.
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:59 PM Author: unholy rehab old irish cottage Sorry, man. A spouse's job should be to foster and support their partner's relationship w/ her or her parents. Not to hinder or harm it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255695) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:40 PM Author: cordovan stain legend Not telling your wife was a bad move. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255475) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:42 PM Author: insanely creepy bateful newt space yes, looks to be the case (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255498) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:47 PM Author: Big Fluffy Queen Of The Night lol at this CUCK attitude. He did tell his wife. It's more than a month away. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255562) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 9:52 PM Author: Motley internet-worthy codepig gc shrew expecting more than a months notice, worried about possibility of "ruining" gc hallmark candy company holiday. wife sounds like a soulless striver gc bot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34255626) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 1:10 PM Author: Brilliant godawful parlor therapy Sorry Ma, my wife thinks you will ruin the holiday -- see you at Christmas ... maybe, it my wife thinks it is OK. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34260000) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 1:27 PM Author: Glittery new version OP is a proud GCophile (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34260240) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:49 PM Author: dark love of her life Sounds like the wife wants veto power. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34256223) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 1:08 PM Author: Brilliant godawful parlor therapy titcr. Asking permission for his mom and dad to visit their grandkids on a holiday for kids? Fuck that. He told her -- they are coming this week. Say, "I am around that week, if you are not, I can deal with them." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34259983) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 10:47 PM Author: Infuriating curious coffee pot My wife is completely capable of this and it's one of those times where You end up doing much better if you call her out and let her know you won't tolerate it. My wife's whole family is like this and it's really their most obnoxious trait. During that conversation you probably want to have a bone or two to throw her e.g. Let her know you're going to take off early and be home with your parents on whichever days you can so she doesn't have to be alone. Make a plan to go out on extra dates to some place she's excited to go and parents babysit, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34256194) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 3:35 AM Author: maroon affirmative action point Ljl at being shackled to some annoying woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34257416) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 7:15 AM Author: Glittery new version I have trouble wrapping my head around a grown ass woman complaining that "Halloween will be ruined" because the kids' grandparents will be there. If they really only see their grandparents three times a year, she needs to have the courtesy to be quiet and play nice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34257697) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 1:22 PM Author: multi-colored tan whorehouse philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34260175) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:11 AM Author: rambunctious feces have them stay at the house not a hotel.
your parents dislike her because they had an argument when your mom caught your dad fucking her? please... |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:11 AM Author: concupiscible self-centered chapel keepsake machete It's not about not telling her, it's all about not including her in the conversation to begin with. HTH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34258739) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 11:51 AM Author: domesticated stag film striped hyena You fucked up by not telling her.
Regardless of how she feels about your mother, you still fucked up by not telling her and letting her find out FROM YOUR DOTTER. |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 1:03 PM Author: Blathering Talented Set Mental Disorder Your wife is angry she got over a month notice when your parents are coming to stay at a hotel and not even in your house over a meaningless holiday? Not only that, they will be there to help and bond with their grandchildren? Lol white women. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34259919) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 1:11 PM Author: Brilliant godawful parlor therapy Again, titcr. I can't believe people in this thread taking wife's side (he should have asked her permission!!) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34260015) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 1:14 PM Author: wild thirsty meetinghouse ratface "Ruined Halloween"
Tell your cunt of a wife to STFU. |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 1:33 PM Author: Lascivious elite office No, she's right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34260324) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 2:51 PM Author: Adventurous goyim How is Halloween ruined by grandma going trick-or-treating with the kids? How are women so unbelievably self-centered? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34261133) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 2:58 PM Author: Lascivious elite office Because she's probably shitty to the wife and she should have at least been consulted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34261211) |
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Date: September 22nd, 2017 2:04 AM Author: Adventurous goyim Wife gets to veto your parents? Nope. She needs to grow up. Wife is replaceable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34266152) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 1:21 PM Author: Pearly disgusting hospital She sounds like an awful person. You should divorce her and go for full custody. But that's just the impression this story gives. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34260158) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 1:26 PM Author: Adventurous goyim ATD (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34260227) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 1:46 PM Author: Adventurous goyim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34260463) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 1:31 PM Author: Lascivious elite office You dun goofed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34260302) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 2:58 PM Author: mind-boggling cheese-eating lettuce When were you going to tell her yourself? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34261213) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 6:27 PM Author: cracking zippy fanboi Your response to your mom should have been "That sounds great and I think we are in town - let me just confirm with [wife] and get back to you. And things are a bit crazy so please ping me in a few days if you don't hear back." That is the answer any time either of your parents asks for something. You then should put it into a shared calendar you both have access to. (Which, even if you forgot to discuss with your wife, would have tipped her off, and which--even if she forgot--would let you say "BUT IT WAS ON THE CALENDAR AND YOU ACCEPTED!".) I'm pretty surprised you made it to having multiple kids without learning this. But I agree your wife going ballistic isn't appropriate given that your family is out of town and you didn't have any other plans. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34263114) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 7:01 PM Author: stubborn degenerate so you tell family members to please ping you back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34263331) |
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Date: September 21st, 2017 6:40 PM Author: Impressive trailer park weed whacker You need to tongue punch wife in her fart box tonight (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3738157&forum_id=2#34263194) |