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Audi vs bmw reliability?

You can pick up a few year old CPO A6 or 5 series for cheap....
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
I have an old as FUCK A6 from like '03, or '04, have never h...
Disrespectful fortuitous meteor travel guidebook
  10/17/17
BMW isn't the paragon of reliability either. Source:my own ...
Autistic gay cruise ship boistinker
  10/17/17
lol @ striverfags buying overpriced junk
histrionic parlour organic girlfriend
  10/17/17
...
Heady church building
  10/17/17
2-3 year old luxury cars aren't actually overpriced
Geriatric depressive rehab
  10/17/17
This. $28k for a 2 year old A6 with 4 years remaining of war...
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
you will eat that in repair costs after the warraty is gone ...
Magical milky dingle berry
  10/17/17
stfu you gook
Slimy Office Lettuce
  10/17/17
All cars depreciate. I'll trade it in in 4 years for another...
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
whats teh point of buying then? why not just lease
Magical milky dingle berry
  10/17/17
Depends on how much you drive and whether you want to deal w...
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
bequeath to heirs
Heady church building
  10/17/17
Leaving an A6 or 5 series is expensive as fuck. Figure $700/...
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
those #s seem high but ill take your word for it buying a...
Magical milky dingle berry
  10/17/17
A base 5 series is advertised at $540/month including a $350...
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
except lots of people run those leases through their busines...
Self-centered silver candlestick maker
  10/17/17
Unfortunately, I don't own a business
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
sad!
Self-centered silver candlestick maker
  10/17/17
crrrrr
greedy hall hunting ground
  10/17/17
i never thought i'd be a lease guy, but the tax savings chan...
Self-centered silver candlestick maker
  10/17/17
...
floppy erotic pervert blood rage
  10/17/17
How the fuck you gonna haul your boat around with that shitb...
histrionic parlour organic girlfriend
  10/17/17
I own a big BOF SUV for that purpose
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
lol at these yuppie mobiles
Heady church building
  10/17/17
theyre both shit, but audi is worse
Magical milky dingle berry
  10/17/17
just buy a goddamn subaru outback
hyperactive forum
  10/17/17
I've driven all the current Subarus. God awful NVH.
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
Mercedes and Porsche are both better. With Porsche however,...
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
aren't you a prole with some shitty jeep?
Irradiated locale
  10/17/17
Sure. But my Jeep costs more than a bunch of Audis, Mercede...
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
good choice IMO
Heady church building
  10/17/17
Which choice? The current JGC or the Mercedes AMG?
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
latter
Heady church building
  10/17/17
It is just an evolution of the former. It will be either a ...
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
lol your wife and dog are going to starve with you spending ...
greedy hall hunting ground
  10/17/17
I'm not doing it so people think I'm cool. I'm going to fre...
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
amgs are a prescription for guaranteed pain if you aren't g...
self-absorbed antidepressant drug
  10/17/17
Getting it used so I take advantage of the depreciation.
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
I generally am against the "zomg german car maintenance...
Slimy Office Lettuce
  10/17/17
Explain.
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
AMG parts, e.g. - brakes and shit cost like 2-3x what normal...
Slimy Office Lettuce
  10/17/17
I checked on ebay and there are plenty of perfectly reasonab...
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
It's probably somewhat year/model specific. Maybe get a cons...
violet exciting juggernaut idiot
  10/17/17
never had major issues with BMW's except that the convertibl...
Slimy Office Lettuce
  10/17/17
(poor prole who wants flash of luxury car but cant afford it...
doobsian adventurous friendly grandma
  10/17/17
(guy who is about to note that OP should just buy a minivan ...
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
(drooling moron)
Heady church building
  10/17/17
Every single one of these threads ends up with some guy walt...
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
Lexus, actually Though some base or near-base midsize Ge...
doobsian adventurous friendly grandma
  10/17/17
Actually, I don't want flash at all. It's just that mid leve...
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
Don't buy a used 5 Series. My boomer parents got one for ...
floppy erotic pervert blood rage
  10/17/17
$1000/yr is doing better than average
Autistic gay cruise ship boistinker
  10/17/17
doesn't seem right
Heady church building
  10/17/17
Older 5 series like the E60 I believe we're pretty unreliabl...
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
excluding things like oil changes, brakes pads/rotors, tires...
snowy spectacular garrison legal warrant
  10/17/17
CapTTTainFalcon pls respond!
snowy spectacular garrison legal warrant
  10/19/17
Tbf, I do all my own maintenance on my current cars. I.e. Pa...
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
A lot of that stuff is also perfectly fine to do at normal s...
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
I do that stuff myself mostly because it forces me to get to...
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
ITT proles who buy "used" cars. ljl at you penny p...
galvanic ape
  10/17/17
To me, it's the proles who spend waste their money on a $60k...
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
The aftermarket warranties that you can negotiate be include...
electric fantasy-prone sandwich
  10/18/17
Chad: big ass 4x4 truck, big dog in back of truck with tongu...
histrionic parlour organic girlfriend
  10/17/17
It really is model specific, each brand has ones with a mino...
shaky motley abode indirect expression
  10/17/17
Apparently the new model 5 series from this past year is a d...
greedy hall hunting ground
  10/17/17
I drove both the 540i and the E Class. The BMW is much bette...
Self-centered silver candlestick maker
  10/17/17
already planning on getting rid of the m240?
Geriatric depressive rehab
  10/17/17
its a lot of fun, but uses a lot of gas - and I don't get to...
greedy hall hunting ground
  10/17/17
fuck it man. If you're not driving it that much then who car...
Geriatric depressive rehab
  10/17/17
tcq
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
TCR. Earl is retarded about cars.
Wonderful ocher goal in life
  10/17/17
it's also not very comfortable driving for over an hour or s...
greedy hall hunting ground
  10/17/17
Don't the n20 engines have major timing chain issues? I know...
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
edit NM
greedy hall hunting ground
  10/17/17
Might as well get the 540i, no? Not much more expensive.
Self-centered silver candlestick maker
  10/17/17
Pretty sure I told u this shit when u talked about this car ...
Magical milky dingle berry
  10/17/17
i fit in the car fine. lots of space in the front seat and l...
greedy hall hunting ground
  10/19/17
So you got a small, super fast car you didn't really need an...
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
i.e., the 540i...
Self-centered silver candlestick maker
  10/17/17
Yep.
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
gas mileage is much worse, and what is the advantage? a lit...
greedy hall hunting ground
  10/19/17
You barely drive and make plenty of cash. Who cares about t...
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/19/17
should I get the 6 cylinder subaru outback too for the other...
greedy hall hunting ground
  10/19/17
$7k is nbd, especially for you. I've never regretted gettin...
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/19/17
assume one kid and a dog and we take it biking and skiing/sn...
greedy hall hunting ground
  10/19/17
Outback seems like a perfectly reasonable choice.
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/19/17
but no sense in getting the 6 for the outback.
greedy hall hunting ground
  10/19/17
I always get a big engine. Small engines suck.
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/19/17
also remember that I am leasing whichever car is more expens...
greedy hall hunting ground
  10/19/17
Look, for me it wouldn't be but if you don't care then sure,...
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/19/17
$5300
Self-centered silver candlestick maker
  10/19/17
both are sps
Dark Stimulating Stag Film
  10/17/17
Other suggestions? CTS (super cheap CPO)? GS350 (considerabl...
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
dont you have like 300k in student loan debt? if that's you...
Dark Stimulating Stag Film
  10/17/17
90k with dreams of PSLF in 2 years. Bigfed with low COL in f...
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
oh ok I was thinking of someone else. yeah lexus much more ...
Dark Stimulating Stag Film
  10/17/17
Yeah, I'd get like an F-150 Raptor or something if I were in...
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
Looked into the raptor. It's a hell of a truck but new is ex...
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
Maintenence is far less though and reliability will be much ...
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
Not so sure on reliability. Not a huge fan of turbo engines ...
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/17/17
Everything is turbo these days, but I totally agree with you...
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/17/17
Turbos are SPS unless on a diesel. None of these new tu...
razzle-dazzle ticket booth round eye
  10/18/17
Does Audi still make a manual paired with their 3.0 SC?
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/18/17
The 3.0 is now turbo instead of SC. And bolted to a 8 speed...
Autistic gay cruise ship boistinker
  10/19/17
TDs break too. I'm fine with the new auto trannies. ...
Cerise Knife Spot
  10/18/17
My Audis have been reliable
Balding clown degenerate
  10/18/17
Good insight. Seems later model audis are fairly reliable. I...
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/18/17
Did you consider the 535i when you bought your A6?
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/18/17
Two follow up questions
snowy spectacular garrison legal warrant
  10/19/17
I've had three BMWs and never had anything seriously go wron...
Offensive Nubile Shrine
  10/18/17
how many miles did you own each for? I keep my cars for abou...
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/18/17
First one about 80k, second one about 60k, third one is new.
Offensive Nubile Shrine
  10/19/17
faGGOT Yuppies die die die
Infuriating Theatre
  10/19/17
Anyone drive the new CTS? It's a fucking steal to buy a 2015...
Cerebral Deer Antler
  10/19/17


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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:29 AM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

You can pick up a few year old CPO A6 or 5 series for cheap. I know audis of the past have been unreliable POS but has that improved? Looking at 2015-2016 MY.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462140)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:30 AM
Author: Disrespectful fortuitous meteor travel guidebook

I have an old as FUCK A6 from like '03, or '04, have never had any serious issues with it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462149)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:31 AM
Author: Autistic gay cruise ship boistinker

BMW isn't the paragon of reliability either.

Source:my own bmw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462160)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:34 AM
Author: histrionic parlour organic girlfriend

lol @ striverfags buying overpriced junk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462197)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:35 AM
Author: Heady church building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462202)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:44 AM
Author: Geriatric depressive rehab

2-3 year old luxury cars aren't actually overpriced

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462285)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:57 AM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

This. $28k for a 2 year old A6 with 4 years remaining of warranty sounds like a good deal to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462409)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: Magical milky dingle berry

you will eat that in repair costs after the warraty is gone brother, and the car value will plummet even more every year so you wont b eable to get rid ofit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462413)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:59 AM
Author: Slimy Office Lettuce

stfu you gook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462429)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:59 AM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

All cars depreciate. I'll trade it in in 4 years for another CPO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462431)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:00 PM
Author: Magical milky dingle berry

whats teh point of buying then? why not just lease

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462437)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:02 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

Depends on how much you drive and whether you want to deal with the hassles that come with leasing.

I will say that buying used and trading for used tends to work out cheaper than leasing new and trading for new.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462457)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:04 PM
Author: Heady church building

bequeath to heirs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462481)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:07 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

Leaving an A6 or 5 series is expensive as fuck. Figure $700/month once you factor in taxes and fees. Their advertised leases include huge required down payments. Over 4 years you'd spend over $30k on lease payments and have zero to show for it. After 4 years of ownership of a purchased CPO, you would probably save at least 10k, factoring in the value of the car at trade in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462499)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:08 PM
Author: Magical milky dingle berry

those #s seem high but ill take your word for it

buying an old Audi seems like a terrible financial decision but w/e floats ur boat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462509)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:11 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

A base 5 series is advertised at $540/month including a $3500 down payment and not including any taxes or additional fees. Easily $700/month with zero down and including taxes and fees.

If you're owning an older BMW covered by a pretty decent factor warranty, how much risk is there? You're picking up a basically new car with less than 30k miles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462529)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:20 PM
Author: Self-centered silver candlestick maker

except lots of people run those leases through their businesses resulting in huge tax savings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462584)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:23 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

Unfortunately, I don't own a business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462600)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:25 PM
Author: Self-centered silver candlestick maker

sad!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462615)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:29 PM
Author: greedy hall hunting ground

crrrrr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462637)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:35 PM
Author: Self-centered silver candlestick maker

i never thought i'd be a lease guy, but the tax savings change the calculus entirely.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462667)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: floppy erotic pervert blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462520)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:22 PM
Author: histrionic parlour organic girlfriend

How the fuck you gonna haul your boat around with that shitbox car, striverfag?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462596)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:27 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

I own a big BOF SUV for that purpose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462625)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:35 AM
Author: Heady church building

lol at these yuppie mobiles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462203)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:36 AM
Author: Magical milky dingle berry

theyre both shit, but audi is worse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462209)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:37 AM
Author: hyperactive forum

just buy a goddamn subaru outback

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462229)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

I've driven all the current Subarus. God awful NVH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462415)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:40 AM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

Mercedes and Porsche are both better. With Porsche however, when stuff goes wrong it costs an arm and a leg.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462260)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:41 AM
Author: Irradiated locale

aren't you a prole with some shitty jeep?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462265)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

Sure. But my Jeep costs more than a bunch of Audis, Mercedes, BMWs, etc.

Probably getting a Mercedes AMG next.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462418)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:05 PM
Author: Heady church building

good choice IMO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462484)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:06 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

Which choice? The current JGC or the Mercedes AMG?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462489)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:06 PM
Author: Heady church building

latter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462492)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:07 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

It is just an evolution of the former. It will be either a GLE 63 AMG or a GLC 63 AMG... Either way, it'll be fun.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462504)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:30 PM
Author: greedy hall hunting ground

lol your wife and dog are going to starve with you spending $100K on a car. Move to LA already if you are going to waste that much on a car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462641)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:12 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

I'm not doing it so people think I'm cool. I'm going to freakin' debadge the thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34467664)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:17 PM
Author: self-absorbed antidepressant drug

amgs are a prescription for guaranteed pain

if you aren't getting fucked by depreciation, you're getting fucked by repair bills

usually, both

buy a used one, hope it's a good one, and at least you'll minimize the fucking



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462906)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:12 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

Getting it used so I take advantage of the depreciation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34467668)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:34 PM
Author: Slimy Office Lettuce

I generally am against the "zomg german car maintenance!!1" flame that gets run here, but don't fucking buy an AMG.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462662)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:55 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

Explain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463205)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:53 PM
Author: Slimy Office Lettuce

AMG parts, e.g. - brakes and shit cost like 2-3x what normal MB parts cost.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463630)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:57 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

I checked on ebay and there are plenty of perfectly reasonably priced shit on brakes and such. Cheaper than Porsche, for example (one thing that scared me off the Macan Turbo).

Compared to the performance parts I buy for my Jeep it is largely the same stuff anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463663)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:42 AM
Author: violet exciting juggernaut idiot

It's probably somewhat year/model specific. Maybe get a consumer reports subscription where you can actually see reliability by year/model and specific car component.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462275)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 11:58 AM
Author: Slimy Office Lettuce

never had major issues with BMW's except that the convertible top was sps but that was before they switched to hard tops anyways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462419)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:01 PM
Author: doobsian adventurous friendly grandma

(poor prole who wants flash of luxury car but cant afford it so has to buy cpo and cares about reliability)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462446)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:03 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

(guy who is about to note that OP should just buy a minivan or some POS cheap car like the one he drives)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462470)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:06 PM
Author: Heady church building

(drooling moron)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462491)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

Every single one of these threads ends up with some guy waltzing in and declaring that if you can't afford to easily buy a new Ferrari with cash that you're a poor prole who should just buy [whatever piece of shit they're driving].

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462517)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:39 PM
Author: doobsian adventurous friendly grandma

Lexus, actually

Though some base or near-base midsize German car from a few years ago would still get gaped off the line by a Camry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34464112)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:17 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

Actually, I don't want flash at all. It's just that mid level class German cars drive so much better at highway speeds and are so much more comfortable than a comparable Camry or accord.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462563)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:09 PM
Author: floppy erotic pervert blood rage

Don't buy a used 5 Series.

My boomer parents got one for 30,000, and in the past ten years they've spent over 10,000 on maintenance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462515)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:10 PM
Author: Autistic gay cruise ship boistinker

$1000/yr is doing better than average

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462522)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: Heady church building

doesn't seem right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462959)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:32 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

Older 5 series like the E60 I believe we're pretty unreliable. The F10 seems more reliable, although that probably depends if you get it in poverty spec with less to go wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462651)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:46 PM
Author: snowy spectacular garrison legal warrant

excluding things like oil changes, brakes pads/rotors, tires, basic maintenance etc. what has that 10,000 been spent on?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34464163)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:22 PM
Author: snowy spectacular garrison legal warrant

CapTTTainFalcon pls respond!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479559)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:14 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

Tbf, I do all my own maintenance on my current cars. I.e. Pads, rotors, fluid changes, oil, tire rotation, filters, minor repairs like sensors. I say this that if you don't do your own DIY maintenance and minor repairs, I'm not sure it would be wise to own a German car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462548)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:15 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

A lot of that stuff is also perfectly fine to do at normal shops. You get eaten alive if you do it at the dealership, so don't do that. Sure, the dealership will tell you that you couldn't possibly get new tires at Walmart but they're fucking liars and tires are tires.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462553)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:21 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

I do that stuff myself mostly because it forces me to get to know how the car is put together, I can be certain it's done correctly within the factory service manual specs, and it's just plain enjoyable to work on cars

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462587)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:19 PM
Author: galvanic ape

ITT proles who buy "used" cars. ljl at you penny pinching soccor moms. Remember, Chad buys new xoxohth...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462576)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:22 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

To me, it's the proles who spend waste their money on a $60k+ car when one can be had for half that in nearly the same condition and with plenty of Warranty remaining.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462595)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 6:34 PM
Author: electric fantasy-prone sandwich

The aftermarket warranties that you can negotiate be included on CPO cars (since they are 90% margin) are 180 and way better than factory warranties too.

My friend bought a CPO Mercedes that was under a year old with a 5yr unlimited-mileage warranty thrown in. The car has been in the shop so many times before it was even 2 years old that the warranty has paid off big time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34473882)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:36 PM
Author: histrionic parlour organic girlfriend

Chad: big ass 4x4 truck, big dog in back of truck with tongue hanging out, big boat, chicks in bikinis on said boat drinking canned prole juice and rumchatta, camp fires on the beach snuggled up with Stacy while strumming guitar.

Striverfag: student loan debt, no truck, no boat, lives in studio apartment, no yard so no big dog, drives tiny shitbox "foreign" car that was manufactured in South Carolina, drives with "Titan" the Shitzu dog in front seat, no gf but regularly listens to Stacy getting railed next door while trying to get some sleep for shit corporate job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462675)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 12:42 PM
Author: shaky motley abode indirect expression

It really is model specific, each brand has ones with a minor thing here or there. Generally, nearly every car these days is far more reliable than even 10 years ago. Also, with some models and packages you're buying a car with a ton of power and technology, don't expect that to necessarily be perfect, there are tradeoffs. A 550HP M6 or M5 requires two car batteries, and was designed to deplete them so they could eek out an EPA number (alternator doesn't draw enough to keep them fully charged over time); so there is an extremely expensive battery change bill to expect with those cars as they require 'coding' (((GC))) for each battery. If you don't want that, get a Camry.

As for BMW vs. Audi; if you need AWD, get an Audi with the real Quattro system (not Haldex) and if possible the sport differential. I have an S4 w/ 400whp and no issues at $34k miles; bought it used with 10k and tuned/pully'd from nearly day 1.

If you prefer RWD, BMWs are perfectly fine. I personally like the Audi RS7 and any of BMW's "Grand Touring" 4-door coupes; you can get a 4-door M6 used for ~60k w/ low miles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462714)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:02 PM
Author: greedy hall hunting ground

Apparently the new model 5 series from this past year is a decent improvement and better than the mercedes E class.

My next car will probably be a sad 4 cylinder 5 series. Or an outback.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462815)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: Self-centered silver candlestick maker

I drove both the 540i and the E Class. The BMW is much better, and this is from someone who generally prefers Mercedes.

The design of the new 5 series is gorgeous too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462832)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:06 PM
Author: Geriatric depressive rehab

already planning on getting rid of the m240?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462838)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:59 PM
Author: greedy hall hunting ground

its a lot of fun, but uses a lot of gas - and I don't get to drive fast very often. I put on so few miles (under 5000 per year) that I should probably buy out the lease and sell it rather than turn it back in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463231)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:00 PM
Author: Geriatric depressive rehab

fuck it man. If you're not driving it that much then who cares about mpgs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463235)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

tcq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463241)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:05 PM
Author: Wonderful ocher goal in life

TCR. Earl is retarded about cars.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463278)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:09 PM
Author: greedy hall hunting ground

it's also not very comfortable driving for over an hour or so.

It's fun and it accelerates well, but I am wondering if I would not have an overall better experience in a much bigger 530i which is cheaper, more fuel efficient, and can go fast enough even with the turbo 4, for 99% of the driving I do with the m240.

Also I share my car with my wife sometimes and she does not drive fast at all, wasting the 240.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463298)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:13 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

Don't the n20 engines have major timing chain issues? I know they've moved to the n46 but not sure if the same issue exists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463328)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:16 PM
Author: greedy hall hunting ground

edit NM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463354)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:40 PM
Author: Self-centered silver candlestick maker

Might as well get the 540i, no? Not much more expensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463519)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:59 PM
Author: Magical milky dingle berry

Pretty sure I told u this shit when u talked about this car

U are a tall dood, lol at being comfy in a ducking 2 series

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463692)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: greedy hall hunting ground

i fit in the car fine. lots of space in the front seat and lots of headroom (more than the mercedes C class).

The problem is that the seats are so close to the ground that you legs stick out straight more than bend. This is uncomfortable for the ass and hips at any height. Same deal for my wife who is pretty short.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479457)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:02 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

So you got a small, super fast car you didn't really need and now are going to sell it, wasting money? WTF?

Get a decent all arounder - something comfortable enough, fast enough, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463723)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:03 PM
Author: Self-centered silver candlestick maker

i.e., the 540i...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463733)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:04 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

Yep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463737)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:04 PM
Author: greedy hall hunting ground

gas mileage is much worse, and what is the advantage? a little extra push on the freeway onramp if there is no traffic? Both 530i and 540i can go 100 mph with no problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479446)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:20 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

You barely drive and make plenty of cash. Who cares about the freakin' gas mileage? Eat the cost and have a car with enough power that you won't miss the M series 99% of the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479537)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:21 PM
Author: greedy hall hunting ground

should I get the 6 cylinder subaru outback too for the other car?

Isn't the 540 like $7,000 more than the 530. Seems like a lot of money for a little.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479553)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:23 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

$7k is nbd, especially for you. I've never regretted getting the more powerful engine. Seems better than paying a bunch for a car that's inadequate. Pay the money, maintain the car, keep it for a long time and enjoy.

For the other car that depends on a bunch of variables, including whether you are having kids, how you'll use it, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479565)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: greedy hall hunting ground

assume one kid and a dog and we take it biking and skiing/snowboarding.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479572)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:27 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

Outback seems like a perfectly reasonable choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479598)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:28 PM
Author: greedy hall hunting ground

but no sense in getting the 6 for the outback.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479605)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:29 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

I always get a big engine. Small engines suck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479616)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:26 PM
Author: greedy hall hunting ground

also remember that I am leasing whichever car is more expensive. 35% tax write off >>> any other consideration as to savings by buying slightly used or whatever.

If I am only keeping a car 3 years and am a commute-pig, how is a reasonably quick turbo 4 inadequate?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479587)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:32 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

Look, for me it wouldn't be but if you don't care then sure, get a small engine car. I don't really understand that, but then again, you're not me. I also drive like a madman and just got a new Uniden R3 radar detector. You probably drive 5 over the speed limit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479640)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:25 PM
Author: Self-centered silver candlestick maker

$5300

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479578)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 1:05 PM
Author: Dark Stimulating Stag Film

both are sps

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34462835)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:05 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

Other suggestions? CTS (super cheap CPO)? GS350 (considerably more expensive? E350?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463277)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:19 PM
Author: Dark Stimulating Stag Film

dont you have like 300k in student loan debt? if that's you, a toyota corolla/camry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463365)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:21 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

90k with dreams of PSLF in 2 years. Bigfed with low COL in flyover country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463377)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:24 PM
Author: Dark Stimulating Stag Film

oh ok I was thinking of someone else. yeah lexus much more reliable and cheaper to maintain than audi or bmw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463400)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 2:46 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

Yeah, I'd get like an F-150 Raptor or something if I were in your shoes. That doesn't sound like a smart setup for a German luxury car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463562)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:26 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

Looked into the raptor. It's a hell of a truck but new is expensive as fuck (twice what I would pay for a CPO luxury car) and since they don't depreciate at all, makes zero sense buying used.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463975)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:27 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

Maintenence is far less though and reliability will be much better. And you'll get more respect in middle America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34463988)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:29 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

Not so sure on reliability. Not a huge fan of turbo engines stressed to put out tons of HP. Liked the raptor better when it ran a 6.2l. Plus the Ford warranty is shitty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34464008)



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Date: October 17th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

Everything is turbo these days, but I totally agree with you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34464122)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 1:33 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle ticket booth round eye

Turbos are SPS unless on a diesel.

None of these new turboed cars is going to last for shit without major repair bills. Between direct injection and turbos they are all ticking maintence bombs.

What’s left that is not direct injection and/or turbo? And rule out any CVTs or dual clutch or too many speed autos. Whatever it is, but that. Manual trans and nornally aspirated, normal injection (superchargers are ok though).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34468414)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:18 AM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

Does Audi still make a manual paired with their 3.0 SC?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34470053)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Autistic gay cruise ship boistinker

The 3.0 is now turbo instead of SC. And bolted to a 8 speed auto.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34476874)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:49 AM
Author: Cerise Knife Spot

TDs break too.

I'm fine with the new auto trannies.

But yeah, there are basically no cars fitting your description anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34470367)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 11:37 AM
Author: Balding clown degenerate
Subject: My Audis have been reliable

I've owned two new A6 Audis - a 2001 2.7T that I kept for 11 years because I liked it so much, and a 2013 A6 3.0T. I had only very minor problems with the 2.7. The 3.0 has been totally trouble free for 5 years, and is without a doubt the finest car I've ever owned. I also have a 2012 BMW 335i convertible I bought used two years ago. It stays at my winter place and doesn't get used much. It had some initial issues with oil leaks, but other than that it has been fine. Before the 2.7T I had a Mercedes E320 purchased new. It had a lot of problems over the 5 years I owned it, and kind of soured me on the M-B brand. The least reliable cars I've ever owned were a Chrysler Concorde and a VW van. Every high end car is a depreciation disaster. If you do buy an Audi, I recommend Audi Care. It's a prepaid maintenance program (not a warranty) that will save some serious $ over dealer prices. For example, the dealer price on the 55000 mile service was $1200, but the Audi Care price for both 55000 and 65000 was about $750.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34470256)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 4:11 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

Good insight. Seems later model audis are fairly reliable. I do all my own maintenance myself in accordance with the factory service manual so I really only care about repairs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34472815)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 5:49 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

Did you consider the 535i when you bought your A6?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34473570)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: snowy spectacular garrison legal warrant
Subject: Two follow up questions

1) What was the cause of the oil leak issue with the 335i? Worn out gasket?

2) Even $750 for a 55,000 mile service seems steep. What exactly does that entail?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479571)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 5:51 PM
Author: Offensive Nubile Shrine

I've had three BMWs and never had anything seriously go wrong with any of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34473584)



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Date: October 18th, 2017 5:55 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

how many miles did you own each for? I keep my cars for about 100K.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34473607)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:43 AM
Author: Offensive Nubile Shrine

First one about 80k, second one about 60k, third one is new.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34476858)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:45 AM
Author: Infuriating Theatre

faGGOT Yuppies die die die

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34476871)



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Date: October 19th, 2017 12:59 PM
Author: Cerebral Deer Antler

Anyone drive the new CTS? It's a fucking steal to buy a 2015 CPO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3766644&forum_id=2#34479415)