Terminator 1 is so superior to 2 it's ridiculous
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Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:17 PM Author: cerise glittery space half-breed
Schwarzenegger actually acts in Terminator 1 and puts his physicality to work in amazing ways. He is truly robotic in 97% of his scenes. Sarah Connor's character development is really crazy too. She goes from ditzy waitress to Che Guevara in 90 minutes. 2nd half of T2 is basically unwatchable because it's just Edward Furlong hamming it up like son and dad after they reconfigure his brain. Arnold even SMILES after he picks up the minigun. Robert Patrick sucks but he actually outclassed Arnold in that film.
Also, T1 is the only movie where Arnold plays a villain. It's utter bullshit that he goes through all of T2 without killing a single fucking person. Nothing else Schwarzenegger ever did in his entire career came close to the sheer brutality and terror of this scene:
https://youtu.be/X3DU-7a8mP0
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Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:23 PM Author: shaky sienna parlor chad
2 is a better movie
arnold is better in 1, agreed
2 different things
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Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:40 PM Author: Hairraiser house-broken famous landscape painting stage
Absolutely cr. Terminator the first was almost a horror movie and Arnold was genuinely frightening. My ex gf used to remark how scared she was during the scene where he chases Sarah in the night club.
I think he does kill people in T2 though, in the mall/arcade shootout scene some bystanders get laid to waste by his shotgun.
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Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:46 PM Author: Appetizing shrine puppy
Yeah originally Cameron was interested in making a slasher but he thought Halloween was the definitive word there. So he put his own twist on it, and it really does function like a slasher.
I find the police station shoot out absolutely terrifying. Sarah should be safe there, she's in a building filled with armed, trained men and women. But they're all cut to pieces and helpless against an unstoppable killing machine.
Oh, and the mom's voice part is chilling.
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Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:49 PM Author: Fishy big hospital
Arnold is terrifying as the bad guy and does stuff that he wouldn't ever do again once he wanted to establish himself as the good guy/hero in every film e.g.
- execute a random middle aged woman by shooting her in the head multiple times
- machinegun a crowd of random people at a disco dance
- attack a police station and murder 20+ police officers
No big star would play a bad guy who did stuff like this its just too evil. But that's what makes him such a good character.
I read somewhere about the making of T1 and it set new standards for making such a good film on a low budget. Apparently the main reason most of it takes place at night is not only for atmospherics but because it was much cheaper to shoot at night.
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Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:44 PM Author: metal contagious mood elastic band
i can't deal with the annoying kid in T2. he ruins the movie.
it's definitely James Cameron's lowest-common-denominator faggotry coming out. OMG THE TERMINATOR IS CRYING!11 AND SAYING 'DICKWAD'! HEHEHEHE.
i hate that fucker.
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Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:45 PM Author: Fishy big hospital
I agree with this. T1 is a better film than T2 because it was much more innovative and a lot more adult, grimmer and darker than T2. T2 was weak because of the annoying child and AS wanting to play the good guy.
I feel the same way about Alien v Aliens though I think Aliens is closer to Alien than T2 is to T1.
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Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:57 PM Author: Fishy big hospital
And to be fair to Aliens it didn't set out to be in the same SF horror genre as Alien. It was consciously made as more of a action film with lots of characters and lots of shooting rather than the slow horrible pace of Alien.
I agree about the shows being time capsules of what people at the time thought the future was going to be like. There was a huge change in the late 70s from the 60s idealised flying car squeaky clean futures (e.g. Logans Run, Lost in Space TV series) to the more gritty used and worn futures that I think Star Wars, Alien and Blade Runner are good examples of. I like Logans Run but in retrospect it looks like it was made 20 years before Alien, not three.
I also thought the creepiness of the Alien crashed ship, the eggs and the horrible Alien's physical features were new and unique.
In comparison T2 set out to be a better T1 but it certainly wasn't.
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Date: October 22nd, 2017 6:50 PM Author: electric keepsake machete
T2 was amazingly, relentlessly paced, slick as fuck, and one of the first modern big blockbusters.
i like T1 and T2 had some cheesy moments but T2 is much grander, more epic, fully realized.
(and the franchise shoulda fucking stopped there ugh...)
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Date: October 22nd, 2017 7:29 PM Author: Topaz chapel
i enjoyed genisys.
it didnt take a shit on the series like T3 and wasnt as stupidly boring as salvation.
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Date: October 22nd, 2017 7:38 PM Author: Harsh Point Telephone
title in op is correct.
covering metal in living tissue in order to be able to go through worm hole is straining, but plausible and cool
ronco metal that can shapeshift into anything and any color and still be a machine is beyond stupid. those things would have won the war against humans in 20 minutes.
oh but gweat thpecial effecths!!!
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