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I got redpilled on marriage and divorce today

If your main life goals having successful children and achie...
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  10/24/17
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swashbuckling immigrant
  10/24/17
I've been saying this ever since my divorce and subsequent c...
effete preventive strike
  10/24/17
your ex wife seems like a huge bitch
yellow mother rigpig
  10/24/17
She is, but our Family Law system is screwed up and based on...
effete preventive strike
  10/24/17
What state?
Poppy abnormal business firm athletic conference
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AK
effete preventive strike
  10/24/17
What motivates divorce in Alaska? "Realistically most p...
Poppy abnormal business firm athletic conference
  10/24/17
Same as anywhere else... cheating whores. However, I make 20...
effete preventive strike
  10/24/17
Wow dude! How do you make $200K in AK?
saffron base ape
  10/24/17
Oilfield prole. I'll probably make more like $220k this ...
effete preventive strike
  10/24/17
180. Gawd! WTF am I doing w my life! Here you are, chilli...
saffron base ape
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Her new SO makes 200K +
effete preventive strike
  10/24/17
(faggot MAF his ex's new bf isn't a cuck)
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Also... I work less than half the year... ;)
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180 fuck libs
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I think she thought she was marrying someone that was going ...
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It should be ZERO with 50/50 custody.
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Cr but ljl at wagecucks who can't write their income down to...
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CR. My buddy does this and I'm crazy jealous. Now I'll b...
effete preventive strike
  10/24/17
You'll get a nice payraise when your kids turn 18 at least
saffron base ape
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Yes... right about the time I retire in 12 years.
effete preventive strike
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Fuck. Look, can you argue that the prole oilfield job i...
saffron base ape
  10/24/17
Not really. I love my job and I love my kids. I can stil...
effete preventive strike
  10/24/17
Have your boss fire you and "start your own business&qu...
Curious wild parlor
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The courts will impute my income. Now that I've made 200K a ...
effete preventive strike
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Not if there's a material change in circumstances like you g...
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  10/24/17
Yeah... I need to just start selling drugs or something. ...
effete preventive strike
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Just make a deal with your boss to take a pay cut and work f...
Curious wild parlor
  10/24/17
I work for BIGOIL... Multinational Megacorps don't do this.
effete preventive strike
  10/24/17
That's the price you pay for sucking at the teat of GC breh
Curious wild parlor
  10/24/17
FTGE
effete preventive strike
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The entire purpose of family court is to redistribute wealth...
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  10/24/17
It would be if she made more or you made less. Sucks. Tota...
saffron base ape
  10/24/17
Not in my state. It's a codified mathematic formula that fav...
effete preventive strike
  10/24/17
Yeah--we have that formula too. but it gets fudged all the ...
saffron base ape
  10/24/17
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm well versed in this area. I kn...
effete preventive strike
  10/24/17
Agreed, but the fact that you make 200k makes it much more u...
Lavender therapy
  10/24/17
Why would you think that?
effete preventive strike
  10/24/17
Not literally poor. Just thought you were some 100k dude pa...
Lavender therapy
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I know it could be much worse. I still don't think it's righ...
effete preventive strike
  10/24/17
Because you make more than she does. If you want to figure o...
naked diverse idea he suggested
  10/24/17
OK, you didn't read the subthread. If she remarries a mul...
effete preventive strike
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Because it isn't her new husband's duty to support your kid,...
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Isn't the playing field leveled though?
effete preventive strike
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Can't use the use new husband's income man, it isn't right. ...
naked diverse idea he suggested
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He should know the risks of marriage prior to entering. He s...
effete preventive strike
  10/24/17
Bro, I hear you. The child support laws are fucked. People p...
naked diverse idea he suggested
  10/24/17
With 50/50 custody, there should be no child support, so not...
effete preventive strike
  10/24/17
lol you sound like a typical prole family law client now
naked diverse idea he suggested
  10/24/17
That's fine. If ex wasn't educated, didn't have a solid ...
effete preventive strike
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I agree with that as long as both parents are above the pove...
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Agreed. That's why I come here and bitch. I'm still thin...
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A year or so ago there was a stat that women are now the bre...
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I love hearing this. Law Partner Tinder Shrew I was bang...
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This happened to a friend of mine because she earns more tha...
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This is fucked up too. That's why I contend that there s...
effete preventive strike
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i have a friend like this. the nurse is asian and the guy i...
Big generalized bond
  10/24/17
Mike Cernovich ran this scam on his ex-wife.
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  10/25/17
"Can't use the use new husband's income man, it isn't r...
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She can get child support from the new cuck too. Ljl
Curious wild parlor
  10/24/17
I think that's her endgame.
effete preventive strike
  10/24/17
And doesn't it also cut the other way? So if the OP gets di...
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You're exactly right. Not OP, but, now that I'm redpilled...
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where is this from?
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http://www.realworlddivorce.com/Tips
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"I encourage clients to be direct with children of a su...
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the family court system in this country is a disaster. ac...
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If Child Support was ended, I bet DV claims would drop by 75...
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It’s too late. They can’t be reasoned with. Way too many Wit...
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have divorce laws always worked like this/when did they chan...
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This is why the fertility doc who put his spunk in thousands...
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"Doc" as in singular?
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Thousands was an overstatement, but hundreds by this dude an...
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180
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Probably the most successful guy since genghis khan
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CR. He is pwning us and his name will be appearing in listic...
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Convert everything to bitcoin, move to bosnia?
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it's fucked up that how family law court ENCOURAGES DIVORCES...
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It really does. Marriage counselors also contribute to d...
effete preventive strike
  10/24/17
it's because divorce is big business.
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Just now finding Phil Greenspuns blog, eh?
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It's undiluted aspie rage. I love it.
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it almost makes sense to marry a smart, passive woman who is...
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can a prenup help? or are the divorce laws prenup proof
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Date: October 24th, 2017 5:52 PM
Author: Poppy abnormal business firm athletic conference

If your main life goals having successful children and achieving financial security, every element of the conventional advice of "finish college, get a job, and get married" is likely to work against you.

Collecting child support in many U.S. states can be more lucrative than working at the median college graduate wage. Child support is a more secure source of income than a job. Your employer won't be imprisoned for failure to keep writing paychecks, but your child support defendant will be. Depending on the state, you can also get a court order requiring your child support defendant to buy life insurance that will pay you in the event of his or her death.

Having children with multiple partners is more lucrative than having children with one partner. Depending on the jurisdiction, earning a college degree may impair a child support or alimony claim. A history of work can also impair child support and alimony claims.

Marriage may entitle you to a free house and/or alimony, but the choice of defendants is limited to unmarried partners who will agree to a marriage. The most successful potential sexual partners are probably already married. The Son also Rises (Clark 2014; Princeton University Press) follows members of successful families over hundreds of years and concludes that there is likely a genetic basis for "social competence". Thus a married physician whose parents, grandparents, aunts, and uncles are mostly successful professionals is much more likely to produce a successful biological child than an average person:

Is there anything that this book can say to people who want the best possible income, wealth, education, and health outcomes for their children? The one scientific contribution we can make is to point out that with the appropriate choice of mates, a family can avoid downward mobility forever. … If the way to produce children of the highest possible social phenotype is to find a partner of the highest possible social genotype, the path is clear for those whose aim in life is to produce the highest-achieving progeny possible. To discover the likely underlying social genotype of your potential partner, you need to observe not just their characteristics but also the characteristics of all their relatives. What is the social phenotype of their siblings and their parents? And what is the observed status of their grandparents and cousins?

Clark assumes that marriage is a prerequisite for reproduction, but, as we hope you've seen from this book, that is no longer true from a practical or a statistical point of view. One of us wrote a review of Clark's book:

Informed by Clark’s book, a young woman today could get a job in or near a hospital and, after making what seemed like small talk regarding family background (“Are your parents also doctors?”; “What do your grandparents do back in the old country?”), identify fathers for her future children. … Using this method instead of marrying a high-school sweetheart of average status, the mother would have a superior genetic endowment for her children. Without working, she would have more spending power than any of the defendant fathers yet without investing time or money in college.

Attorneys also pointed out that when seeking child support profits via a brief encounter, their plaintiff clients don’t limit the search to men who are currently single. Having a child with a married man may be more lucrative than having a child with a single man. Why? When child support is discretionary, e.g., in higher-income cases, a plaintiff can ask for 100 percent of a married defendant’s income on the grounds that the defendant’s wife can support him and any marital children while he supports the plaintiff and her out-of-wedlock child. Attorneys also told us about larger-than-guidelines cash transfers that they negotiated in exchange for keeping an extramarital encounter, and the resulting child, out of the public record.

Does anyone actually target physicians? An Arkansas litigator described some of his work with medical professionals: “When I see young doctors working with attractive nurses I think that’s just like hunting in a baited field.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520367)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 5:55 PM
Author: swashbuckling immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520381)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:02 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

I've been saying this ever since my divorce and subsequent custody battle.

I'm still trying to figure out why, with 50/50 custody, I'm paying $1,200 a month after taxes to my ex-wife who is college educated and makes above average income.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520427)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:04 PM
Author: yellow mother rigpig

your ex wife seems like a huge bitch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520434)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:08 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

She is, but our Family Law system is screwed up and based on antiquated philosophies.

Yes, if she made more money... I would be "entitled" to child support, but that doesn't make it right.

Unless a parent makes less than the poverty line, no one should be required to pay child support with 50/50 custody. Right now in AK it's maxed out at $120K of Income, but that number should be like $60K.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520469)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Poppy abnormal business firm athletic conference

What state?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520454)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:08 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

AK

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520475)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:11 PM
Author: Poppy abnormal business firm athletic conference

What motivates divorce in Alaska? "Realistically most plaintiffs are trying to make themselves better off," says Sullivan. "They're not doing it for the sake of their children. A lawsuit is more likely with a disparity of income, and the higher the defendant's income the more likely there will be a lawsuit."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520506)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:16 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

Same as anywhere else... cheating whores. However, I make 200K, she makes 60-70K.

There was a time when she wanted to be a SAHW and I said no.... best decision I ever made.

Child Support is supposedly to help the child experience a similar lifestyle between both households. The fucked up thing is that if she marries a multimillionaire, I will still have to pay child support.

I met her right after law school. I think she thought she was marrying someone that was going to be a "rich lawyer".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520539)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:18 PM
Author: saffron base ape

Wow dude! How do you make $200K in AK?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520556)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:19 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

Oilfield prole.

I'll probably make more like $220k this year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520568)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:30 PM
Author: saffron base ape

180. Gawd! WTF am I doing w my life! Here you are, chilling, growing 180 weed, banging tinder 3s left and right, living in God's Country, taking yr kids to Hawaii---JFC.

TBF if you are making $200K and wife makes $70K w 50/50 custody I could def see a judge ordering you to make some payments for child support at $1200 per month. I'm not saying its fair to you or it makes sense, but those numbers aren't out of line with the system as a whole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520669)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:45 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

Her new SO makes 200K +

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520799)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 1:18 AM
Author: Boyish carmine nibblets

(faggot MAF his ex's new bf isn't a cuck)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34523266)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:52 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

Also... I work less than half the year... ;)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520871)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:42 PM
Author: garnet electric furnace

180 fuck libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520773)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:25 PM
Author: Pontificating Azure Cuck Fanboi

I think she thought she was marrying someone that was going to be a "rich lawyer".

damn bro be glad she only got you for 1.2k a month jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520618)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:27 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

It should be ZERO with 50/50 custody.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520633)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:29 PM
Author: Curious wild parlor

Cr but ljl at wagecucks who can't write their income down to 30k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520651)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:29 PM
Author: Pontificating Azure Cuck Fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520655)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:33 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

CR. My buddy does this and I'm crazy jealous.

Now I'll be "Imputed Income" fucked forever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520695)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:34 PM
Author: saffron base ape

You'll get a nice payraise when your kids turn 18 at least

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520702)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:36 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

Yes... right about the time I retire in 12 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520723)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:37 PM
Author: saffron base ape

Fuck.

Look, can you argue that the prole oilfield job is only viable for a few years because its hard and uncomfortable and dirty work -- don't truck drivers make this kind of argument to get out from under child support set when they were making $500K a year on the road 360 days a year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520733)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:39 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

Not really. I love my job and I love my kids.

I can still provide them with a high QOL even after child support, I just bitch about having to pay it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520748)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:36 PM
Author: Curious wild parlor

Have your boss fire you and "start your own business" for ca$h

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520726)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:38 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

The courts will impute my income. Now that I've made 200K a year, I'm expected to make 200K a year for ever and ever and ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520735)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:40 PM
Author: Curious wild parlor

Not if there's a material change in circumstances like you getting "fired" or developing a "disability". You have to beat shitlibs at their own game for now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520757)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:47 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

Yeah... I need to just start selling drugs or something.

I've become much more risk averse as I've gotten older and acquired "things n stuff".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520820)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:48 PM
Author: Curious wild parlor

Just make a deal with your boss to take a pay cut and work for cash temporarily as a "self-employed contractor"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520832)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:52 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

I work for BIGOIL... Multinational Megacorps don't do this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520879)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:53 PM
Author: Curious wild parlor

That's the price you pay for sucking at the teat of GC breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520891)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:54 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

FTGE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520899)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:29 PM
Author: Pontificating Azure Cuck Fanboi

The entire purpose of family court is to redistribute wealth from men to women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520652)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:31 PM
Author: saffron base ape

It would be if she made more or you made less. Sucks. Totally sucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520680)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:35 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

Not in my state. It's a codified mathematic formula that favors neither women or men.

I would never accept child support out of principle though.

I have a friend whose wife divorced him because he couldn't hold a job. He pwned her an collects child support and works shitty under the table jobs or collects unemployment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520718)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:39 PM
Author: saffron base ape

Yeah--we have that formula too. but it gets fudged all the time depending on the reality.

If income changes, don't forget to seek a change of circumstance or you will get fucked on the arrearage--but you are trained as lawyer so you know this already.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520744)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:42 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm well versed in this area.

I know she got a new job, but she says it pays less than her last job. Come New Year, I'll be requesting a W-2.

I'm over the 120K max, so, it doesn't matter if I make more money. I stipulated the 120 so I wouldnt' have to show her w-2.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520766)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:40 PM
Author: Lavender therapy

Agreed, but the fact that you make 200k makes it much more understandable.

I thought you were some poor dude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520752)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:42 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

Why would you think that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520774)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:47 PM
Author: Lavender therapy

Not literally poor. Just thought you were some 100k dude paying out the wazoo for child support, who needed to take people fishing to help make ends meet.

I agree with what you're saying, but I've heard of far more absurd situations on this board alone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520819)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:49 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

I know it could be much worse. I still don't think it's right.

Truth be told, I live a very good life in a pretty low COL area. I still have the means to travel, have fun, and provide a quality life for my kids.

I still think it's fucked up though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520836)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:42 PM
Author: naked diverse idea he suggested

Because you make more than she does. If you want to figure out why we have a certain law, look to the policy behind the law.

Child support is supposed to level the playing field.

Imagine if one parent was well-off and one was dirt poor. Who do you think the well off one is? The father in most cases.

So if the father is filthy rich and the mother is dirt poor, without child support, the kids would never want to go over the mom's house.

Dads are the more fun parent to begin with, moms are the disciplinarians. Now allow Dad to fill his house with the best food and fun games, Playstation, or whatever and the kids will never leave.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520769)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:43 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

OK, you didn't read the subthread.

If she remarries a multimillionaire, why should I be required to pay child support? The playing field is effectively leveled, yet I'm required to pay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520784)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:45 PM
Author: naked diverse idea he suggested

Because it isn't her new husband's duty to support your kid, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520797)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:45 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

Isn't the playing field leveled though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520806)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: naked diverse idea he suggested

Can't use the use new husband's income man, it isn't right. Of course the new husband will use his income to support the other kids, too, but we can't force him and if we reduce *your* support because she remarried then that's what would happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520857)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:54 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

He should know the risks of marriage prior to entering. He should have some skin in the game if he's willing to be a step parent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520895)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:08 PM
Author: naked diverse idea he suggested

Bro, I hear you. The child support laws are fucked. People pay way too much, but legally forcing a new husband to subsidize your support payments isn't the answer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520993)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:09 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

With 50/50 custody, there should be no child support, so nothing to subsidize.

"a level playing field" is bullshit unless one parent is legit wealthy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521001)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:12 PM
Author: naked diverse idea he suggested

lol you sound like a typical prole family law client now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521021)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:15 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

That's fine.

If ex wasn't educated, didn't have a solid work history, I would probably be more sympathetic. But that isn't the case.

Barring exigent circumstances, there should be no child support required by either parent with 50/50 custody.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521041)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:19 PM
Author: naked diverse idea he suggested

I agree with that as long as both parents are above the poverty limit. But good luck getting a politician to try to change it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521065)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:22 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

Agreed. That's why I come here and bitch.

I'm still thinking of running for state house or some bullshit though. If elected, I would be 1 termed for forcememing Child Support and Domestic Violence BS laws.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521081)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:29 PM
Author: naked diverse idea he suggested

A year or so ago there was a stat that women are now the breadwinners in 40% of households. The best bet of getting shit changed is from these women having to pay their baby daddies.

I've witnessed a few of these cases. You don't think men like paying support? Holy shit, you haven't seen anything until you see a woman ordered to pay support. Their fucking heads explode. They lose it.

I remember one case I had where the opposing counsel goes, "Your Honor, can you please explain again to my client why she has to pay her husband support?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521127)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:33 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

I love hearing this.

Law Partner Tinder Shrew I was banging had to pay her ex CS. She was smart enough to understand the "why" but she hated it.

Marriage/Child Having is such a losing game if you're an above-median earner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521171)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:36 PM
Author: naked diverse idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521197)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:37 PM
Author: Magenta 180 forum

This happened to a friend of mine because she earns more than him.

But the only reason she earns more is that in addition to doing most of the looking after the kids she has a high paying job as nurse while he is a shiftless loser who was running his own "business" with a negative income while he ran up gambling debts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521213)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:40 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

This is fucked up too.

That's why I contend that there should be no child support, no matter who earns more, with 50/50 custody.

I think differently if it's even 51/49.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521237)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 11:58 PM
Author: Big generalized bond

i have a friend like this. the nurse is asian and the guy is some prole white dude. lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34522870)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:11 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle hospital stain

Mike Cernovich ran this scam on his ex-wife.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34526924)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 5:15 PM
Author: odious mischievous indian lodge masturbator

"Can't use the use new husband's income man, it isn't right."

WTF isn't right about it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34527378)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:49 PM
Author: Curious wild parlor

She can get child support from the new cuck too. Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520840)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

I think that's her endgame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520856)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:23 PM
Author: Magenta 180 forum

And doesn't it also cut the other way? So if the OP gets divorced and then marries a divorced mother with children then she continues to get child support from her ex because you have no duty to support her kids?

As I understand it the system is gender neutral but in practice its men who pay more because they tend to earn more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521087)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:24 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

You're exactly right.

Not OP, but, now that I'm redpilled, I'll never get married again unless she makes more money than I do (not including CS payments from her ex).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521098)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 3:45 AM
Author: Histrionic charcoal crotch potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34523596)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:04 PM
Author: Lilac Startling Senate Goal In Life

where is this from?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520432)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:07 PM
Author: Poppy abnormal business firm athletic conference

http://www.realworlddivorce.com/Tips

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520461)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:09 PM
Author: Poppy abnormal business firm athletic conference

"I encourage clients to be direct with children of a sufficient age," one lawyer said. "Divorce lawsuits are about an adult wanting to make money. Teenagers certainly can understand that adults need to make money."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520483)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:10 PM
Author: splenetic crackhouse multi-billionaire

the family court system in this country is a disaster.

actually, pretty much all policy in our country is fucked.

the incentives are all wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520492)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:11 PM
Author: effete preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520505)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:36 PM
Author: narrow-minded charismatic fat ankles whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520724)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:21 PM
Author: Pearly Native Regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520578)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:27 PM
Author: Out-of-control pisswyrm trust fund

It's got to stop

women have got to be reined in. they are out of fucking control and destroying western civilization.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520632)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:29 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

If Child Support was ended, I bet DV claims would drop by 75%.

DV laws have made it so that women have a superior advantage in custody cases. Mo custody, mo $$$.

DV laws were meant to be shields, but whores are using them as swords.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520650)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:30 PM
Author: Pontificating Azure Cuck Fanboi

It’s too late. They can’t be reasoned with. Way too many With Her “men”.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520671)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:31 PM
Author: Heady Frum Messiness Hell

have divorce laws always worked like this/when did they change

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520682)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 9:26 PM
Author: Heady Frum Messiness Hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34522045)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:32 PM
Author: Amber university mad cow disease

This is why the fertility doc who put his spunk in thousands of women's eggs is pwning all of us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520689)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:33 PM
Author: saffron base ape

"Doc" as in singular?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520694)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:35 PM
Author: Amber university mad cow disease

Thousands was an overstatement, but hundreds by this dude and his highly intelligent bro clique: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9193014/British-man-fathered-600-children-at-own-fertility-clinic.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520712)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:37 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520728)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:55 PM
Author: Sapphire Fighting Church Degenerate

Probably the most successful guy since genghis khan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34527242)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:57 PM
Author: Amber university mad cow disease

CR. He is pwning us and his name will be appearing in listicles about most successful humans ever when we are long dead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34527257)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:42 PM
Author: electric theater psychic

Convert everything to bitcoin, move to bosnia?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520775)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:48 PM
Author: Lascivious home

it's fucked up that how family law court ENCOURAGES DIVORCES for some women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520831)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:50 PM
Author: effete preventive strike

It really does.

Marriage counselors also contribute to divorce.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520847)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:38 PM
Author: garnet electric furnace

it's because divorce is big business.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521221)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:50 PM
Author: Arousing Walnut Property Gaming Laptop

Just now finding Phil Greenspuns blog, eh?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521301)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 8:59 PM
Author: Poppy abnormal business firm athletic conference

It's undiluted aspie rage. I love it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521842)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 1:08 AM
Author: Arousing Walnut Property Gaming Laptop

if, like him, you make it to early middle age before you find out the world's not fair, you really don't have any hope of recovering

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34523225)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 1:11 AM
Author: Poppy abnormal business firm athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34523241)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 9:26 PM
Author: Amber university mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34522044)



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Date: October 24th, 2017 11:45 PM
Author: vibrant corner brethren

this is why to have any chance of success you have to marry your organic gf at a young age, and both be 110% committed to the relationship such that divorce is not even a remote possibility. both you and your wife cannot have had many partners, that will fuck up your ability to commit. marry someone who will suck it up, and you yourself also be willing to suck it up. life is fucking hard, and you both need to deal with it. especially after kids, jesus, now you are primarily in a partnership dedicated to the successful rearing of those children. everything else is second. do your duty, and more importantly, marry someone who feels the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34522800)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 1:12 AM
Author: Motley public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34523245)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 3:44 PM
Author: Amber university mad cow disease

I did this and got lifepwnt in an even worse way. Lol vanitas veritas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34526753)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 12:01 AM
Author: aqua hairraiser theater stage

You are a fucking faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34522879)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 12:01 AM
Author: Big generalized bond

it almost makes sense to marry a smart, passive woman who is grateful to be with you because you could do better than her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34522880)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 1:04 AM
Author: Stimulating bat-shit-crazy fortuitous meteor sweet tailpipe

can a prenup help?

or are the divorce laws prenup proof

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34523192)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 1:05 AM
Author: Poppy abnormal business firm athletic conference

Which state are you in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34523202)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 1:10 AM
Author: thriller cordovan international law enforcement agency gay wizard

I think a lot of previous research had suggested the happiest couples are a man with a more attractive women. I'm guessing in the modern divorce climate, it's the opposite now. Like someone said above, being with a girl who is grateful to be with you seems pretty cr in this modern shitvilization

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34523234)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 1:22 AM
Author: vibrant corner brethren

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NF5XU-k2Vk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34523280)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Duck-like green queen of the night

the black community was always way ahead of the curve on the destruction of the nuclear family

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34526829)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:42 AM
Author: Iridescent exciting office

guy who lives in a first world country here, sup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34523688)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:06 PM
Author: Floppy private investor

Wow. New poster here. I just wanted to comment on your clever and incisive post. Nicely done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34526897)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Fragrant elite point

When child support is discretionary, e.g., in higher-income cases, a plaintiff can ask for 100 percent of a married defendant’s income on the grounds that the defendant’s wife can support him and any marital children while he supports the plaintiff and her out-of-wedlock child. Attorneys also told us about larger-than-guidelines cash transfers that they negotiated in exchange for keeping an extramarital encounter, and the resulting child, out of the public record.

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34526821)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 3:54 PM
Author: Duck-like green queen of the night

my secretary gets $1200/mo child support from her baby daddy for ONE child. she's also married to a guy who makes a pretty good income, so the child support money is basically just money she uses to buy herself frivolous things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34526822)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 3:58 PM
Author: Contagious Sexy Sanctuary Puppy

Wish this deterred men away from having kids but they are all too willing to jump into the fire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34526851)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:08 PM
Author: Fragrant elite point

I would love to have a housewife and think that's what would be in the best interest of my future children but the law works against me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34526910)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:56 PM
Author: Lascivious home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34527252)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 6:41 PM
Author: effete preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34528007)