I got redpilled on marriage and divorce today
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Date: October 24th, 2017 5:52 PM Author: Poppy abnormal business firm athletic conference
If your main life goals having successful children and achieving financial security, every element of the conventional advice of "finish college, get a job, and get married" is likely to work against you.
Collecting child support in many U.S. states can be more lucrative than working at the median college graduate wage. Child support is a more secure source of income than a job. Your employer won't be imprisoned for failure to keep writing paychecks, but your child support defendant will be. Depending on the state, you can also get a court order requiring your child support defendant to buy life insurance that will pay you in the event of his or her death.
Having children with multiple partners is more lucrative than having children with one partner. Depending on the jurisdiction, earning a college degree may impair a child support or alimony claim. A history of work can also impair child support and alimony claims.
Marriage may entitle you to a free house and/or alimony, but the choice of defendants is limited to unmarried partners who will agree to a marriage. The most successful potential sexual partners are probably already married. The Son also Rises (Clark 2014; Princeton University Press) follows members of successful families over hundreds of years and concludes that there is likely a genetic basis for "social competence". Thus a married physician whose parents, grandparents, aunts, and uncles are mostly successful professionals is much more likely to produce a successful biological child than an average person:
Is there anything that this book can say to people who want the best possible income, wealth, education, and health outcomes for their children? The one scientific contribution we can make is to point out that with the appropriate choice of mates, a family can avoid downward mobility forever. … If the way to produce children of the highest possible social phenotype is to find a partner of the highest possible social genotype, the path is clear for those whose aim in life is to produce the highest-achieving progeny possible. To discover the likely underlying social genotype of your potential partner, you need to observe not just their characteristics but also the characteristics of all their relatives. What is the social phenotype of their siblings and their parents? And what is the observed status of their grandparents and cousins?
Clark assumes that marriage is a prerequisite for reproduction, but, as we hope you've seen from this book, that is no longer true from a practical or a statistical point of view. One of us wrote a review of Clark's book:
Informed by Clark’s book, a young woman today could get a job in or near a hospital and, after making what seemed like small talk regarding family background (“Are your parents also doctors?”; “What do your grandparents do back in the old country?”), identify fathers for her future children. … Using this method instead of marrying a high-school sweetheart of average status, the mother would have a superior genetic endowment for her children. Without working, she would have more spending power than any of the defendant fathers yet without investing time or money in college.
Attorneys also pointed out that when seeking child support profits via a brief encounter, their plaintiff clients don’t limit the search to men who are currently single. Having a child with a married man may be more lucrative than having a child with a single man. Why? When child support is discretionary, e.g., in higher-income cases, a plaintiff can ask for 100 percent of a married defendant’s income on the grounds that the defendant’s wife can support him and any marital children while he supports the plaintiff and her out-of-wedlock child. Attorneys also told us about larger-than-guidelines cash transfers that they negotiated in exchange for keeping an extramarital encounter, and the resulting child, out of the public record.
Does anyone actually target physicians? An Arkansas litigator described some of his work with medical professionals: “When I see young doctors working with attractive nurses I think that’s just like hunting in a baited field.”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520367) |
Date: October 24th, 2017 6:02 PM Author: effete preventive strike
I've been saying this ever since my divorce and subsequent custody battle.
I'm still trying to figure out why, with 50/50 custody, I'm paying $1,200 a month after taxes to my ex-wife who is college educated and makes above average income.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520427) |
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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:08 PM Author: effete preventive strike
She is, but our Family Law system is screwed up and based on antiquated philosophies.
Yes, if she made more money... I would be "entitled" to child support, but that doesn't make it right.
Unless a parent makes less than the poverty line, no one should be required to pay child support with 50/50 custody. Right now in AK it's maxed out at $120K of Income, but that number should be like $60K.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520469) |
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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:16 PM Author: effete preventive strike
Same as anywhere else... cheating whores. However, I make 200K, she makes 60-70K.
There was a time when she wanted to be a SAHW and I said no.... best decision I ever made.
Child Support is supposedly to help the child experience a similar lifestyle between both households. The fucked up thing is that if she marries a multimillionaire, I will still have to pay child support.
I met her right after law school. I think she thought she was marrying someone that was going to be a "rich lawyer".
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520539) |
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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:35 PM Author: effete preventive strike
Not in my state. It's a codified mathematic formula that favors neither women or men.
I would never accept child support out of principle though.
I have a friend whose wife divorced him because he couldn't hold a job. He pwned her an collects child support and works shitty under the table jobs or collects unemployment.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520718) |
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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:42 PM Author: effete preventive strike
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm well versed in this area.
I know she got a new job, but she says it pays less than her last job. Come New Year, I'll be requesting a W-2.
I'm over the 120K max, so, it doesn't matter if I make more money. I stipulated the 120 so I wouldnt' have to show her w-2.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520766) |
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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:49 PM Author: effete preventive strike
I know it could be much worse. I still don't think it's right.
Truth be told, I live a very good life in a pretty low COL area. I still have the means to travel, have fun, and provide a quality life for my kids.
I still think it's fucked up though.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520836) |
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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:42 PM Author: naked diverse idea he suggested
Because you make more than she does. If you want to figure out why we have a certain law, look to the policy behind the law.
Child support is supposed to level the playing field.
Imagine if one parent was well-off and one was dirt poor. Who do you think the well off one is? The father in most cases.
So if the father is filthy rich and the mother is dirt poor, without child support, the kids would never want to go over the mom's house.
Dads are the more fun parent to begin with, moms are the disciplinarians. Now allow Dad to fill his house with the best food and fun games, Playstation, or whatever and the kids will never leave.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520769)
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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:15 PM Author: effete preventive strike
That's fine.
If ex wasn't educated, didn't have a solid work history, I would probably be more sympathetic. But that isn't the case.
Barring exigent circumstances, there should be no child support required by either parent with 50/50 custody.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521041) |
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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:29 PM Author: naked diverse idea he suggested
A year or so ago there was a stat that women are now the breadwinners in 40% of households. The best bet of getting shit changed is from these women having to pay their baby daddies.
I've witnessed a few of these cases. You don't think men like paying support? Holy shit, you haven't seen anything until you see a woman ordered to pay support. Their fucking heads explode. They lose it.
I remember one case I had where the opposing counsel goes, "Your Honor, can you please explain again to my client why she has to pay her husband support?"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521127) |
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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:33 PM Author: effete preventive strike
I love hearing this.
Law Partner Tinder Shrew I was banging had to pay her ex CS. She was smart enough to understand the "why" but she hated it.
Marriage/Child Having is such a losing game if you're an above-median earner.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521171) |
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Date: October 24th, 2017 7:40 PM Author: effete preventive strike
This is fucked up too.
That's why I contend that there should be no child support, no matter who earns more, with 50/50 custody.
I think differently if it's even 51/49.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34521237) |
Date: October 24th, 2017 6:10 PM Author: splenetic crackhouse multi-billionaire
the family court system in this country is a disaster.
actually, pretty much all policy in our country is fucked.
the incentives are all wrong.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520492) |
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Date: October 24th, 2017 6:29 PM Author: effete preventive strike
If Child Support was ended, I bet DV claims would drop by 75%.
DV laws have made it so that women have a superior advantage in custody cases. Mo custody, mo $$$.
DV laws were meant to be shields, but whores are using them as swords.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34520650) |
Date: October 25th, 2017 1:04 AM Author: Stimulating bat-shit-crazy fortuitous meteor sweet tailpipe
can a prenup help?
or are the divorce laws prenup proof
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34523192) |
Date: October 25th, 2017 3:54 PM Author: Fragrant elite point
When child support is discretionary, e.g., in higher-income cases, a plaintiff can ask for 100 percent of a married defendant’s income on the grounds that the defendant’s wife can support him and any marital children while he supports the plaintiff and her out-of-wedlock child. Attorneys also told us about larger-than-guidelines cash transfers that they negotiated in exchange for keeping an extramarital encounter, and the resulting child, out of the public record.
wow
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3773683&forum_id=2#34526821) |
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