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Seeking general advice for my trip: Rome > Florence > Venice

leaving nov 5, honeymoon. there for 10 nights.
Bat shit crazy magenta house
  10/25/17
Renting a car?
Electric self-centered background story
  10/25/17
no, just doing trains -- flying into rome and out of milan. ...
Bat shit crazy magenta house
  10/25/17
I would do 5 nights in Rome, 3 in Florence, 2 in Venice. ...
Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part
  10/25/17
yeah, i'm not planning to spend any real time in milan. we a...
Bat shit crazy magenta house
  10/25/17
I'd go 5/2 Rome v Venice because I think there is so much mo...
Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part
  10/25/17
hmm, i'll think about that.
Bat shit crazy magenta house
  10/25/17
Kind of depends what time you arrive and leave on the travel...
Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part
  10/25/17
yeah. i think that will be the deciding factor. we've alre...
Bat shit crazy magenta house
  10/25/17
I wouldn't. He's probably going to spend 95% plus of his ti...
Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part
  10/25/17
I wouldn't rent a car there again either the tolls are pure ...
Electric self-centered background story
  10/25/17
True especially after coming from Germany where its free or ...
Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part
  10/25/17
yeah, the highway tolls blew my mind last time i was over th...
Bat shit crazy magenta house
  10/25/17
You haven't driven till you've been on a good German autobah...
Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part
  10/25/17
found that setting google maps to avoid tolls worked well. m...
blue area
  10/26/17
What we used to do was set our lunchtime or end of day desti...
Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part
  10/26/17
...
blue area
  10/26/17
I found italy really boring and the people were awful. Every...
Electric self-centered background story
  10/25/17
The main tourist sights are stupidly overcrowded during summ...
Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part
  10/25/17
Many people seem to manage just fine.
Lilac zombie-like marketing idea
  10/26/17
the only touristy spot i've been to in italy was pisa, and i...
Bat shit crazy magenta house
  10/25/17
where did you go in italy?
Bat shit crazy magenta house
  10/26/17
I loved Italians.
Lilac zombie-like marketing idea
  10/26/17
Rome is crowded because it's full of cool shit. I assume you...
Sable Exciting University Dragon
  10/26/17
yeah, in rome will focus on mother church and old roman shit...
Bat shit crazy magenta house
  10/26/17
St. Peters is not the only church worth visiting in Rome. Ma...
Sable Exciting University Dragon
  10/26/17
...
Bat shit crazy magenta house
  10/26/17
...
milky well-lubricated liquid oxygen
  10/26/17
consider day in Siena on the way to Florence.
blue area
  10/26/17
Wish I had done this.
Lilac zombie-like marketing idea
  10/26/17
TCR
milky well-lubricated liquid oxygen
  10/26/17
worth a stop on the train on the way to florence? or would ...
Bat shit crazy magenta house
  10/26/17
it's an hour and a half train ride from Florence. Can just m...
blue area
  10/26/17
Learn basic Italian before you go. It's not hard and Italian...
Lilac zombie-like marketing idea
  10/26/17
i took a half assed semester during college and did spanish ...
Bat shit crazy magenta house
  10/26/17
This reminds me of a funny story about my husband. When we ...
Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part
  10/26/17
man you are annoying
Lilac zombie-like marketing idea
  10/26/17
yeah, but his little amount retained is usually good enough ...
Bat shit crazy magenta house
  10/26/17
Wow what a funny story
Territorial Drab National Incel
  10/26/17
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Bat shit crazy magenta house
  10/26/17
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adulterous rough-skinned stead
  05/31/18
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Know-it-all exhilarant cuck trump supporter
  05/31/18
In retrospect, I was a little mean to 29 and wish that I had...
Lilac zombie-like marketing idea
  05/31/18
...
Laughsome insecure business firm
  05/31/18
Nice. Sounds like you'll be fine.
Lilac zombie-like marketing idea
  10/26/17
Regardless if you’re an artmo or not, see the Galleria Borgh...
milky well-lubricated liquid oxygen
  10/26/17
What are some (if any) cr tours in Venice? Spending 2 days i...
odious shimmering fortuitous meteor faggotry
  06/22/18
"tours" are u oriental?
motley mother immigrant
  06/22/18
2 days is probably too much in venice just do 1 day, just...
Rose Senate
  06/22/18
That was originally the plan, but circumstances now call for...
odious shimmering fortuitous meteor faggotry
  06/22/18
honestly, just get away from the main drag (train station to...
Dead Mind-boggling Community Account
  06/22/18
Thank you.
odious shimmering fortuitous meteor faggotry
  06/22/18
this is good advice. venice is much more bearable when you ...
Bat shit crazy magenta house
  06/22/18
the vaporetto is the way to go, gondola rides are a huge fuc...
Bat shit crazy magenta house
  06/22/18
Tyvm
odious shimmering fortuitous meteor faggotry
  06/22/18


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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:07 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy magenta house

leaving nov 5, honeymoon. there for 10 nights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523621)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:26 AM
Author: Electric self-centered background story

Renting a car?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523653)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:27 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy magenta house

no, just doing trains -- flying into rome and out of milan. would maybe rent a car for a side trip but doubt we have the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523656)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:30 AM
Author: Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part

I would do 5 nights in Rome, 3 in Florence, 2 in Venice.

Milan is quite an interesting city in its own right but not nearly at the same level as the other two and since the international airport is way out of the city you don't need to go into the city.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523664)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:33 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy magenta house

yeah, i'm not planning to spend any real time in milan. we actually did two nights there this past march, when we got rained out on the back end of a mont blanc ski trip.

right now i'm leaning towards 4/3/3.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523668)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:35 AM
Author: Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part

I'd go 5/2 Rome v Venice because I think there is so much more to see in Rome (and several good daytrips) than in Venice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523673)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:41 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy magenta house

hmm, i'll think about that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523686)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:42 AM
Author: Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part

Kind of depends what time you arrive and leave on the travelling days too. Two nights could be anything from only one full day to almost three.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523691)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:44 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy magenta house

yeah. i think that will be the deciding factor. we've already got rome booked, but everything else is still pretty much up in the air (best thing about traveling in november vs say september).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523694)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:29 AM
Author: Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part

I wouldn't. He's probably going to spend 95% plus of his time in the three inner cities and the last thing you want or need is a car in an Italian city. Just go by train.

I wouldn't rent a car unless you were doing a driving holiday across the Italian countryside visiting lots of small towns and historical/scenic sites. Even then you need to be a reasonably confident driver able to cope with a stick shift and maniacal Italian drivers on narrow roads.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523663)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:35 AM
Author: Electric self-centered background story

I wouldn't rent a car there again either the tolls are pure rape

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523672)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:36 AM
Author: Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part

True especially after coming from Germany where its free or the countries where you can just buy one autobahn pass for unlimited driving during your stay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523674)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:40 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy magenta house

yeah, the highway tolls blew my mind last time i was over there. pretty great roads though. and <3 autogrill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523683)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:41 AM
Author: Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part

You haven't driven till you've been on a good German autobahn on a quiet Sunday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523687)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:26 AM
Author: blue area

found that setting google maps to avoid tolls worked well. more scenic drives and no tolls. also automatically avoids the downtown no car areas in towns

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530429)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:31 AM
Author: Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part

What we used to do was set our lunchtime or end of day destination in the GPS and then just drive in that general direction taking whatever detours seemed interesting.

That way the GPS is always calculating the best legal route from where you are to your destination which is really helpful in Italian towns which are usually a maze of narrow, one-way and blocked off streets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530473)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:33 AM
Author: blue area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530509)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:37 AM
Author: Electric self-centered background story

I found italy really boring and the people were awful. Everything is commoditized and sterile. Just way too much tourism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523677)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:40 AM
Author: Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part

The main tourist sights are stupidly overcrowded during summer but by now they won't be so bad. And how can you go through life never having seen Rome?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523682)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:25 AM
Author: Lilac zombie-like marketing idea

Many people seem to manage just fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530423)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:42 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy magenta house

the only touristy spot i've been to in italy was pisa, and i had a pretty good time for the four hours i was there.

(been to la spezia, cagliari, and salerno a bunch of times each. and milan once this year for a couple days.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523690)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:22 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy magenta house

where did you go in italy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530395)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:26 AM
Author: Lilac zombie-like marketing idea

I loved Italians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530427)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:26 AM
Author: Sable Exciting University Dragon

Rome is crowded because it's full of cool shit. I assume you have at least some level of interest in Roman history and medieval and Renaissance art, right? Otherwise LOL this may be a miserable vacay for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530431)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:29 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy magenta house

yeah, in rome will focus on mother church and old roman shit and drinking.

florence the usual art stuff, venice the usual

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530453)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:30 AM
Author: Sable Exciting University Dragon

St. Peters is not the only church worth visiting in Rome. Make sure to check out St. John Lateran and Maria Maggiore. They're both old as shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530464)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:35 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy magenta house



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:59 AM
Author: milky well-lubricated liquid oxygen



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:29 AM
Author: blue area

consider day in Siena on the way to Florence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530451)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:32 AM
Author: Lilac zombie-like marketing idea

Wish I had done this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530488)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:55 AM
Author: milky well-lubricated liquid oxygen

TCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530656)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 1:24 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy magenta house

worth a stop on the train on the way to florence? or would i have to spend the night?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530841)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 7:57 AM
Author: blue area

it's an hour and a half train ride from Florence. Can just make a day trip out of it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34531866)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:33 AM
Author: Lilac zombie-like marketing idea

Learn basic Italian before you go. It's not hard and Italians are poor English speakers. It saved my ass a couple of times there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530505)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:38 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy magenta house

i took a half assed semester during college and did spanish in high school, so we usually get by in both italy and spain.

GF is near fluent in french though which is great when we're there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530537)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:41 AM
Author: Fishy Stage Party Of The First Part

This reminds me of a funny story about my husband. When we go to Eastern Europe I usually do all the translating because I speak Slovenian fairly well (which means I can get the gist of other Slavic languages) and I did 6 years of German in school which is a very common second language there.

So when we go to France he's all "now I can translate because I did French in HS" and I ask "how many years?" and he says "two" and I respond "I did five years of French". LOL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530559)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:51 AM
Author: Lilac zombie-like marketing idea

man you are annoying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530617)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:53 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy magenta house

yeah, but his little amount retained is usually good enough for the basics: pronunciation, sentence structure, basic nouns/verbs, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530634)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 2:59 AM
Author: Territorial Drab National Incel

Wow what a funny story

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34531165)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 3:05 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy magenta house



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Date: May 31st, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: adulterous rough-skinned stead



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Date: May 31st, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: Know-it-all exhilarant cuck trump supporter



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Date: May 31st, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: Lilac zombie-like marketing idea

In retrospect, I was a little mean to 29 and wish that I had been even meaner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36160307)



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Date: May 31st, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Laughsome insecure business firm



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:55 AM
Author: Lilac zombie-like marketing idea

Nice. Sounds like you'll be fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530657)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:57 AM
Author: milky well-lubricated liquid oxygen

Regardless if you’re an artmo or not, see the Galleria Borghese

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530676)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 3:10 PM
Author: odious shimmering fortuitous meteor faggotry

What are some (if any) cr tours in Venice? Spending 2 days in august.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36291900)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: motley mother immigrant

"tours" are u oriental?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36291906)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Rose Senate

2 days is probably too much in venice

just do 1 day, just do a gondola ride so your gf can take photos, just do some walking around and just do never go back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36291907)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: odious shimmering fortuitous meteor faggotry

That was originally the plan, but circumstances now call for 2. What about a boat ride to Burano and other little islands?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36291928)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Dead Mind-boggling Community Account

honestly, just get away from the main drag (train station to rialto to Doge Palace) and wander to the outskirts of Venice. it's really peaceful and the architecture is lovely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36291944)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 3:23 PM
Author: odious shimmering fortuitous meteor faggotry

Thank you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36291999)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy magenta house

this is good advice. venice is much more bearable when you wander away from all the super touristy areas.

buy a vaporetto pass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36292396)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy magenta house

the vaporetto is the way to go, gondola rides are a huge fucking scam. only people i saw on them on my trip were asian tourists with selfie sticks and gaudy designer clothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36292387)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: odious shimmering fortuitous meteor faggotry

Tyvm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36292982)