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Pls explain to me like I'm 5 how Russia prevented people from voting for Hillary
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:24 AM Author: Duck-like rehab sound barrier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568844) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:25 AM Author: Turquoise Boyish Scourge Upon The Earth Lay Free speech only works so long as its Yankees talking and the rest of the world listening. You can tell Russians who to vote for but not the other way around, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568852) |
Date: October 31st, 2017 8:39 AM Author: fragrant electric furnace hall WASHINGTON — An estimated 126 million Americans, roughly one-third of the nation’s population, received Russian-backed content on Facebook during the 2016 campaign, according to prepared testimony the company submitted Monday to the Senate Judiciary Committee and obtained by NBC News.
Underscoring how widely content on the social media platform can spread, Facebook says in the testimony that while some 29 million Americans directly received material from 80,000 posts by 120 fake Russian-backed pages in their own news feeds, those posts were “shared, liked and followed by people on Facebook, and, as a result, three times more people may have been exposed to a story that originated from the Russian operation.”
The testimony by Facebook's general counsel, Colin Stretch, was submitted to the Judiciary Committee ahead of a hearing on Tuesday with executives from Facebook, Google and Twitter. The hearing is part of the congressional inquiry into Russia’s use of these platforms to try to influence last year’s U.S. presidential election.
Twitter also revealed Russian-backed entities played a larger role than previously disclosed. Two sources told NBC News Monday that the company found 36,746 automated accounts — or bots — that were linked to Russia between September 1 and November 15, 2016. The accounts tweeted 1.4 million times and were seen 288 million times.
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:40 AM Author: Turquoise Boyish Scourge Upon The Earth Lay It's just speech. Russians have every right to partake in the market place of ideas as anyone else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568900) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:42 AM Author: Beady-eyed brethren tanning salon LOL @ this being an issue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568911) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:44 AM Author: chartreuse glittery stage LMAO "exposed"
One shitty post in your shitty fb feed and suddenly the Russians have hacked your vote. |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:51 AM Author: fragrant electric furnace hall No, but it's not at all hard to believe that this massive propaganda campaign influenced at least some of the 66,000 or whatever votes that Trump won by.
Your strawman notwithstanding :-) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:55 AM Author: chartreuse glittery stage Look man. If you can show me where Manafort or somebody else conspired with the Russians to steal Podesta's emails, I'll bring the rifles for the firing squad. K? But you know this Facebook nonsense is bullshit, so just knock it the fuck off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568952) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:58 AM Author: fragrant electric furnace hall Why is this Facebook stuff nonsense? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568957) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:03 AM Author: laughsome disrespectful trust fund piazza Do you think Hillary spent less time and effort working social media than the Russians? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568972) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:37 AM Author: fragrant electric furnace hall No. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569085) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:40 AM Author: laughsome disrespectful trust fund piazza Well then if Russia had a big pro-Trump social media campaign (which I don't actually believe), why did Russia's work and Hillary's didn't? Hint: because Hillary was a shit candidate who couldn't win despite a huge numerical cash advantage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569099) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:41 AM Author: fragrant electric furnace hall So the GC of facebook was lying you think?
Hillary's may have "worked" as well in garnering support, but that doesn't preclude the possibility Russia's campaign swayed key votes in key states. Trump won by an incredibly small number of votes. It doesn't strain credulity at all to attribute some of these votes to the misinformation spread by the Russkies. |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:13 AM Author: effete embarrassed to the bone point there's no way it would come close to getting 100s of thousands of votes in different states Hillary lost but dishonest libs are still trying to delegitimize Trump's presidency |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 2:23 PM Author: stimulating stead newt Buying ads isn't illicit hacking. It's intelligent foreign policy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34571238) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 11:55 AM Author: cruel-hearted plaza This. There is nothing even illegal about what they did. I'm sure the US does this same stuff on social media for nearly every election for every other country on earth.
Remember, a lot of the ads were almost word for word BLM and Hillary propaganda |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:03 AM Author: Cerise vivacious gaming laptop The Russians could play with the gloves off by running pro Black Lives Matter ads meant to scare white people. Even Trump wouldn't be able to do that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569261) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:05 AM Author: laughsome disrespectful trust fund piazza If you think Hillary didn't play dirty, you are in fact 5 years old. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569273) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:37 AM Author: razzmatazz nighttime station juggernaut Maybe zuckerberg shouldn't sell fucking ads to the Russians then? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569081) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:37 AM Author: fragrant electric furnace hall Sure. But the question was asked, and I answered. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569087) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:43 AM Author: razzmatazz nighttime station juggernaut Pretty dumb answer. You're basically admitting that this is a non-issue if we're now reduced to looking at who bought facebook ads (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569111) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:45 AM Author: fragrant electric furnace hall Why is that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569119) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:46 AM Author: razzmatazz nighttime station juggernaut Because anyone can buy facebook ads and post bullshit or just post bullshit for free (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569126) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:47 AM Author: fragrant electric furnace hall Right. And the Russians did so. how does that mean Russian propaganda had no effect? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569131) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:50 AM Author: razzmatazz nighttime station juggernaut The question was prevented ppl from voting for Hillary, which didn't happen. If people were swayed by double digit iq facebook ads whether it's from Russia or not then it's hillarys fault for being a shitty candidate. Plenty of propaganda was thrown at trump but he actually got out and reached voters instead of treating this process like a coronation. Sorry your still butt hurt about this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569158) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:51 AM Author: fragrant electric furnace hall Clinton was a shitty candidate. But as long as you acknowledge Russians tried to interfere and could have swayed votes, we're good here, friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569167) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:53 AM Author: razzmatazz nighttime station juggernaut I wouldn't call taking out fb ads "interfering" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569177) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:53 AM Author: fragrant electric furnace hall Sure, just do let hostile foreign governments influence elections. lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569183) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:58 AM Author: razzmatazz nighttime station juggernaut I agree zuckerberg shouldn't sell ads to anyone with a checkbook. maybe he's the one that should be investigated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569221) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:06 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle sick legal warrant when did this rule start that foreign govts can't support a given candidate? seems like many influential world leaders were very vocal throughout the campaign about their support of hillary, widely reported in media and boasted about by her supporters, and I must have missed her disavowals of that foreign support. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569276) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:34 AM Author: Shivering theater stage private investor odd case (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569445) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:18 PM Author: bateful factory reset button theater obeezy gaped here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34752940) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:12 AM Author: chrome kitchen Hey dumb dumb, all youve shown is that the fb gc believes russian advertising reached some number of people.
You havent shown impact. |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:45 AM Author: Yapping Field Codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569121) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:47 AM Author: fragrant electric furnace hall That's a very substantive argument, pepito. Great work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569132) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:51 AM Author: razzmatazz nighttime station juggernaut Anyone who substantially responds to you is wasting their time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569162) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:52 AM Author: fragrant electric furnace hall Conveniently, this allows the xo con crew to sidestep actually engaging with any of my reasonable and well thought out points.
hehe |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:53 AM Author: razzmatazz nighttime station juggernaut You didn't even use "hehe" properly you stupid asshole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569181) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:54 AM Author: fragrant electric furnace hall hehe ;-) don't get mad brother it's a beautiful morning (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569186) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 8:58 PM Author: Sienna adventurous tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34752835) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 12:15 PM Author: motley police squad Do you honestly believe there's a 2% chance that those 66k votes or whatever would have not voted for Trump in those specific states if not for some retarded troll bait in their fucking FB feed?
Even when I did use FB a lot, I probably didn't even see 90% of shit in my feed, and definitely didn't even read 5% of the headlines of the links retards shared in my feed that I did see.
The people who voted for Trump listened to Trump himself. They saw innumerable ads from all sides. They were inundated constantly with news and discussion and analysis and propaganda from innumerable media sources, word of mouth, everywhere. But somehow these Russian trolls on a shoestring budget utterly dwarfed by either candidate or party managed to swing the minds of exactly the right PA/OH/FL/WI Americans who otherwise would have stayed home or voted for Hillary?
No fucking way. The people who were influenced by that shit were 100% already in the tank for Trump. |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:49 AM Author: nofapping zippy sandwich property lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568934) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:51 AM Author: sapphire home lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568939) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:03 AM Author: Orchid bbw pocket flask why isnt facebook under investigation for publishing these frauds? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569259) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:36 AM Author: mustard orchestra pit I love that libs believe this line and aren't holding their shit politicians accountable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569461) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 11:14 AM Author: Splenetic Whorehouse this is the dumbest shit i've ever read and i poast here almost every day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34755704) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:46 AM Author: chartreuse glittery stage They hacked the air traffic control system, literally made it impossible for Hillary to visit PA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568926) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:48 AM Author: Grizzly spectacular roommate So Clinton campaign spends 1.2 billion, but Russians made some social media posts? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568930) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:50 AM Author: Turquoise Boyish Scourge Upon The Earth Lay Our work product was just better all around. Hire the KGB for all your electioneering needs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568937) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:51 AM Author: nofapping zippy sandwich property It's funny how the consensus view on Russia went from "drunk flatulent retards who can barely tie their own shoes" to "brilliant global masterminds" practically overnight (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568942) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:54 AM Author: Turquoise Boyish Scourge Upon The Earth Lay Russians play chess, bro. Americans play checkers. Literally the entire country is just a bunch of bros raised reading and watching movies about spies and field marshalls and nothing else. Pull literally any random Ivan off the street and he likely already trained to run divisions in the field, bro. Yankees -- you faggots are on SCRUM teams and deal with AGILE. Try AGILEing your way through WW3, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568949) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:58 AM Author: fragrant electric furnace hall http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/11/08/article-0-194897A100000578-152_634x460.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568962) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:01 AM Author: laughsome disrespectful trust fund piazza They didn't just make some "social media poasts", they paid the princely sum of $20,000 to run some deceptive anti-Clinton ads on Facebook. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568966) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:19 AM Author: Grizzly spectacular roommate Sorry, retreating from this thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569354) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 12:16 PM Author: motley police squad lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34570253) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:53 AM Author: green antidepressant drug resort they hacked voting software. that Reality Winner chick is going to jail for leaking the NSA report. Mueller is still investigating and we will know more details when the findings of his investigation are released
https://twitter.com/RebeccaShabad/status/871822448660029440 |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:56 AM Author: Turquoise Boyish Scourge Upon The Earth Lay LJL at putting your voting machines on the interweb. You deserve that shit if you're that dumb. But of course these machine are not networked and the alleged hacks would require physical attacks which would, of course, never happen. Yankee disinformation.
On the bright side Vlad is about 15 seconds away from kicking CNN the fuck out of Russia. |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:58 AM Author: green antidepressant drug resort cr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568958) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 11:10 AM Author: green antidepressant drug resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34755687) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:55 AM Author: laughsome disrespectful trust fund piazza The paid for voter suppression laws to be passed in America that deny minorities their right to vote. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568953) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 8:58 AM Author: Stirring slate set laser beams Libs truly believe that people have no agency. For example, if they are told that Hillary is corrupt and in failing health they will believe these things to be true. Even though these things are definitely not true. "Russia" apparently said some unflattering things about Hillary and this caused Trump to win. Therefore, the election was hacked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568959) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:02 AM Author: fragrant electric furnace hall Most people are highly susceptible to misinformation because most people aren't very critical or intelligent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568968) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:07 AM Author: Stirring slate set laser beams Right, that's what I'm saying. Obviously all the smart people vote Democrat which leaves all the stupid people to vote Republican. Which is how Russia was able to hack the election. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34568983) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:35 AM Author: nofapping zippy sandwich property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569077) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:38 AM Author: fragrant electric furnace hall No, most Americans aren't intelligent enough to make informed decisions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569090) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:49 AM Author: dun vigorous cuck theatre Guess the libs in charge of education the last 50 years have some splaining to do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569146) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:50 AM Author: fragrant electric furnace hall Eh. The *median* IQ is 100. And most of the people I work with are probably 110-120 or so range and are still incredibly irrational about many things, including politics.
It's an inherent flaw in any democracy. People aren't that bright. |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:03 AM Author: Razzle-dazzle sick legal warrant in that case hillary probably should have tried to convince some of those not-so-bright voters in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania to vote for her. do any of those not-so-bright voters get exposed to entertainment, media, television, social media, etc etc etc, all of which were overwhelmingly in the tank for Hillary? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569260) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:11 AM Author: maroon senate goal in life cr for instance see the posts ITT claiming that facebook ads caused 35,000 Pennsylvanians to switch their votes from D to R. You'd have to be extremely susceptible to misinformation to believe this was even remotely plausible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569309) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:34 AM Author: mustard orchestra pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569444) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:22 AM Author: Tan concupiscible ticket booth water buffalo For example, if they are told that Hillary is corrupt and in failing health they will believe these things to be true. Even though these things are definitely not true.
tyft |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:37 AM Author: effete embarrassed to the bone point They didn't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569083) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:01 AM Author: Cerise vivacious gaming laptop The Russians hacked the voter boards of 39 states. Pretty sure they didn't flip any votes, but they may have deleted a bunch of Democrats off the voting rolls so they had trouble voting on election day. There was also the entire hacking and disclosures of emails. The fact that Trump, Jr. received an invitation from a foreign power to give dirt on Hillary Clinton, and then attended such a meeting, is fucking ridiculous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569237) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 12:20 PM Author: motley police squad lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34570286) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:13 AM Author: frum love of her life nigger (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569323) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:15 AM Author: Electric Spot It was HER turn but the Russians let SHE lose, which was NOT okay and not supposed to happen.
What is this bullshit about facts and evidence |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:27 AM Author: multi-colored range no one should shed a single tear that Hillary is not POTUS but it's silly to suggest that a nation with no shortage of idiots could not have been influenced by propaganda (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569404) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:37 AM Author: clear hideous degenerate boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569465) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:41 AM Author: laughsome disrespectful trust fund piazza Protip: They were also "influenced" by Hillary's "propaganda". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569484) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:54 AM Author: multi-colored range which was not nearly as effective as Russian propaganda (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569560) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:00 AM Author: laughsome disrespectful trust fund piazza US pols spend billions on electioneering but a dictatorship SWOOPS in as the MASTER OF PERSUASION. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569604) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:03 AM Author: multi-colored range well, yes actually. no one does propaganda better than the Russians (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569620) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:08 AM Author: laughsome disrespectful trust fund piazza (ARE Reptile alt) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569659) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:09 AM Author: multi-colored range ok (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569672) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 11:09 AM Author: Underhanded irradiated native a fact counted on by democrats all the time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34755678) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:33 AM Author: ungodly brilliant gas station multi-billionaire By being the one group of people besides the trump campaign and the American that wasn't actively working to hack the election for Shillary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569440) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:34 AM Author: clear hideous degenerate boistinker Tards ITT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569443) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:42 AM Author: green antidepressant drug resort This is what Mueller is investigating. Once his investigation has concluded his findings will be released. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569487) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:53 AM Author: dun vigorous cuck theatre The implication that free speech rights don't apply to "hostile governments" is only a stepping stone to free speech rights don't apply to "hostile organizations" or "hostile ideologies". If borders don't matter in other contexts neither do they here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569551) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:02 AM Author: multi-colored range but borders do matter in other contexts. are you suggesting they shouldn't? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569617) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:21 AM Author: dun vigorous cuck theatre If one's world perspective is that borders don't matter, it doesn't matter if Russia is a "hostile government" (a function of borders and sovereignty) but rather just "hostile", a designation they share with such groups as the koch brothers, conservatives, white people, etc.
The focus on Russia is more a function to rouse up the rubes using a different tribal association, a faux patriotism of sorts. Because it is a foreign government they have more tools at their immediate disposal to cast doubt on them than they would if it were the NRA, Koch Brothers, Conservatives, etc. The more they use these tools the more they are merging "hostile governments" to "hostiles in general" which they can use those tools on as well.
Basically they are well on the road to start labeling long standing american organizations as "hostile" and "unamerican" |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:57 AM Author: multi-colored range what are you going on about? they just want to discredit and delegitimize Trump's presidency/victory. both sides of the political aisle want to put an end to Russian interference in elections regardless where they stand on the borders issue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34570092) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 3:34 PM Author: dun vigorous cuck theatre Both sides of the aisle want it because of what you said in the previous sentence, both sides want to discredit and legitimize Trump. If this was Rubio, Bush or some other GOPe lackey it would be fiercely more partisan.
Russia is an easier scapegoat. They are convenient "evil henchman" for the narrative. There's no blow back economically by souring relations, we don't have much trade. If this were China or Israel we wouldn't be having this discussion and in fact we simply don't have the discussion of other, more "friendly", governments meddling in our affairs whether they are counter productive to the aims of the current administration or counter to the desire of the American People in general.
In terms of the world perspective of those who do not see borders, there is small difference between a "hostile government" and a "hostile organization" or "hostile ideology". It boils down to "Us vs Them" whoever they may be. By using the power of the justice department to fight this meddling in US Elections it opens up a greater threat, the use of the justice department to fight meddling internally. A Koch brother or conservative may as well be a Russian, he is "anti american" or "anti-us" or "one of them".
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:59 AM Author: plum rambunctious blood rage don't you remember Russia hacked Pokémon Go. that could have swayed voters in WI and MI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569595) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:00 AM Author: Shimmering bawdyhouse On the one hand, Hillary Clinton had every major (((media))) outlet pulling for her and campaigning for her nonstop, in addition to a 1 billion campaign war chest.
On the other hand, Russia allegedly bought a few ads on facebook. |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:05 AM Author: plum rambunctious blood rage Russia also hacked Pokémon Go. this cannot be understated (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569640) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:09 AM Author: multi-colored range all true. but once the opposition effectively painted the media as fifth columnists they lost a lot of their punch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569669) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:46 AM Author: mustard orchestra pit Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569988) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:42 AM Author: Dull den Why are people wasting their time engaging with “obeezy”’s weak trolling? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569942) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:44 AM Author: plum rambunctious blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569963) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:45 AM Author: cordovan pungent organic girlfriend "trolling" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569966) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 11:43 AM Author: mischievous lodge Lmfao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34569949) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:01 PM Author: confused wine public bath mood I don’t know, but have you ever seen the Hunt for Red October? It is a pretty good film. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34752855) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 11:09 AM Author: curious place of business meetinghouse lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3780726&forum_id=2#34755682) |