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PSA: You will bitterly regret not having children
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Date: October 31st, 2017 4:17 PM Author: Glassy abode place of business no matter how much of a true believer you are today in MGTOW/redpill, YOUR career, YOUR hedonistic “freedom” (lol), paranoid apocalypse scenarios, or whatever other silly unnatural delusion you harbor, it will dawn on you as you enter your 40s, 50s etc that you are an utter failure in the only way that matters because you failed to produce at least one offspring.
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Date: October 31st, 2017 5:59 PM Author: Jet-lagged Out-of-control Pocket Flask Giraffe Yeah, all those proles with kids surely have a 180 life!!!
JFC, this is such flame. |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 6:10 PM Author: Glassy abode place of business no one said passing on your line guarantees you won’t fail in other (infinitely more superficial) ways
op is about the inevitable crushing realization awaiting dolts like you who are SO sure this is such FLAME in your 20s/30s as you go about your pointless dead-end existence with such unfounded certainty. |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:18 PM Author: charismatic french chef So you're admitting that existence is pointless and then advocating that we create more pointless lives. Sound logic, professor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575071) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:22 PM Author: Glassy abode place of business read more carefully. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575101) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:26 PM Author: charismatic french chef It's always the same with you guys. You believe the purpose of life is to have kids because it is our 'biological imperative'. You assign human-devised teleological values to cold and impersonal evolutionary processes and when someone points out your deeply flawed circular reasoning you retreat to ad hominems and meaningless platitudes. At the end of the day, no matter how many beautiful children you bring into this sick world you'll be right back here wagging your finger and projecting your insecurities on those who didn't buy the bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575132) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:28 PM Author: Exhilarant mint garrison foreskin All I hear is blahblah whinewhine my bloodline dies with me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575141) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:28 PM Author: Glassy abode place of business (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575147) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:32 PM Author: Haunting point multi-billionaire Waaaah! The world is sick because it's mean to me. Waaaah! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575175) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:42 PM Author: Exhilarant mint garrison foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575265) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:32 PM Author: charismatic french chef Congrats on your bloodline man, truly happy for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575177) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:42 PM Author: Exhilarant mint garrison foreskin Thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575269) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:35 PM Author: Talking range Why can’t you accept that some people have weighed the pros and cons and don’t want to have kids? Most of us would be terrible parents. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575197) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:43 PM Author: Exhilarant mint garrison foreskin EZ to accept. Sorry you got cucked by life and reject my attempt to help you out a bit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575277) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:46 PM Author: Talking range naw you’re acting snarky and bitchy over something that’s a really personal choice. It’s weird that this is the tone you choose to take. It’s almost resentful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575306) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:50 PM Author: Exhilarant mint garrison foreskin Sorry you feel that way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575338) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:53 PM Author: Talking range You keep insincerely apologizing to me. It’s weird. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575372) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:07 PM Author: Exhilarant mint garrison foreskin My apologies. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575458) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:07 PM Author: Puce frum chapel Lmfao, i love you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575463) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:52 PM Author: shimmering skinny woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575368) |
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Date: November 1st, 2017 1:44 AM Author: Dashing low-t incel sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34577027) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:33 PM Author: Talking range It’s like they’re desperate to drag everyone else down with them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575184) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:29 PM Author: angry galvanic death wish brunch What makes you think I'll enter my 40s? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575149) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:58 PM Author: carmine pit boiling water (guy who said the same thing about his 30s at 22)
ljl at the manchild "heh I'll die young!" mentality. |
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Date: November 1st, 2017 7:23 PM Author: angry galvanic death wish brunch People in their 20s have hope. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34582460) |
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Date: November 1st, 2017 1:45 AM Author: floppy headpube (guy with only one offspring) |
Date: October 31st, 2017 4:17 PM Author: at-the-ready school cafeteria idea he suggested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34572361) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 4:18 PM Author: brindle forum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34572363) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 4:18 PM Author: amber elastic band luckily, it's never too late for men to start a family I plan on dumping my wife and remarrying in 10 years, starting a family then |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 4:37 PM Author: Glassy abode place of business lol good luck with that bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34572550) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 4:19 PM Author: Crawly indian lodge Im going my own way! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34572371) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 4:19 PM Author: amber elastic band (Lindsey Buckingham) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34572376) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:41 PM Author: Lavender Irradiated Space Macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575729) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 4:19 PM Author: Puce frum chapel Oh god, youre absolutely correct! Im going to deeply regret my decision to not form babby.
Quick! Who wants to impregnate me?!? |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 4:20 PM Author: Comical parlor dog poop I will (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34572390) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 4:20 PM Author: Puce frum chapel Who are you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34572394) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 6:50 PM Author: Comical parlor dog poop L7 weenie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34719447) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 4:20 PM Author: Exhilarant mint garrison foreskin My going rate is $10k a baste. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34572395) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 4:21 PM Author: Puce frum chapel Youre married. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34572399) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 5:59 PM Author: Exhilarant mint garrison foreskin No coitus involved. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34573356) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:04 PM Author: Puce frum chapel Can i get it for 5k per baste? Im a poormo.
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:19 PM Author: Exhilarant mint garrison foreskin Done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575078) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:24 PM Author: Puce frum chapel Im actually sitting here wondering... who would be best sperm donor for me out of the xoxo poasters? Genetically, i mean. Funny thing to think about =) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575114) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:25 PM Author: Exhilarant mint garrison foreskin I've got a good pedigree. Happy to describe. Come from numerous generations who have made it rich independently. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575123) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:36 PM Author: Puce frum chapel you know what sucks about this boart? that at times i cant say what i want to say because i KNOW i will get yuge backlash for it and i dont want to deal with it
this is a kooky topic to think about for sure :)
and yes, youre a tall genius, im sure your genetics would be great :) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:36 PM Author: Talking range Multi-generational self-made wealth? Impressive. How did they lose it tho? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575213) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:45 PM Author: Exhilarant mint garrison foreskin Nazis. Women. Stupidity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575298) |
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Date: November 1st, 2017 1:43 AM Author: Rough-skinned therapy I didn’t fully read the poast this was responding to and thought this was how they MADE the fortune lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34577025) |
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Date: November 1st, 2017 2:12 AM Author: Carnelian pisswyrm definitely either twins, swordmo, or one of the high-achieving URM posters (good horse to back for future america).
alternatively you could go for a youngmo like charlesxii or uspo because sperm degrades with age. |
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Date: November 1st, 2017 11:20 AM Author: Puce frum chapel *becomes a single mother with biracial baby
*is mocked mercilessly on xoxo |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 5:58 PM Author: Heady deer antler ‘Sup? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34573349) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 5:59 PM Author: Puce frum chapel Omg its my favorite moniker of all time
You want to form babby with me?! |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 6:01 PM Author: Heady deer antler Of course. I assume you, like all fem poasters, are doobs but that won’t stop me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34573384) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 6:03 PM Author: Puce frum chapel Im not doobs, im just fat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34573406) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:29 PM Author: Heady deer antler That has never stopped me before (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575152) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:08 PM Author: up-to-no-good lascivious digit ratio you should do a completely unprotected xo gang bang lol. i would totally watch not flame. haha. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34574990) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:13 PM Author: Puce frum chapel For what purpose? To impregnate me? Lmfao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575034) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:13 PM Author: up-to-no-good lascivious digit ratio yeah. just imagine all that cum. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575043) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:20 PM Author: Puce frum chapel Thinking about which sperm would win the race to the egg is truly frightening (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575091) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:28 PM Author: up-to-no-good lascivious digit ratio Oh great, all this egg talk and now im starving! or maybe it was the cum. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575146) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:36 PM Author: Puce frum chapel want me to make you some bacon & eggs babe? like old times? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575207) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:38 PM Author: up-to-no-good lascivious digit ratio i would love that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575224) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:13 PM Author: shimmering skinny woman *all poasters’ semen combines into a single sperm cell that fertilizes the Autist Messiah* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575039) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:15 PM Author: Puce frum chapel HAHAHAHAHAHA OH GOD
id end up giving birth to the most mentally ill autistic high iq bird-loving psycho racist genius of all time
Would be part jew / part asian and have feathered arms that never stopped flapping |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:30 PM Author: vigorous spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575627) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:55 PM Author: talented station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34758425) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 4:24 PM Author: curious thirsty codepig what if my child turns out to be benzo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34572438) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 5:59 PM Author: Heady deer antler Free gas and cookie displays! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34573355) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:06 PM Author: Puce frum chapel 60th trimester abortion (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34574972) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 6:01 PM Author: Diverse onyx stage nowag you are going to regret something, it doesn't matter
you'll regret not working hard enough
working too hard
not seeing parents enough
seeing them so much now that they're gone it's even HARDER
having kids
not having kids
having shit kids
having too perfect of kids you see them struggle to be (whatever urban elites become)
I think doing drugs might be the only cr outcome to get through life |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 6:12 PM Author: Bipolar boyish puppy internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34573479) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 6:12 PM Author: Glassy abode place of business the other regrets are easily-stopped drips from a faucet you forgot to turn off all the way
this one is the ocean |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:02 PM Author: Irate Brethren You won’t regret having kids (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34574945) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:31 PM Author: Talking range If they kill someone you probably will (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575168) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:25 PM Author: Lavender Irradiated Space Macaca Yeah no one ever regrets doing drugs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575585) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 6:09 PM Author: Ruddy Degenerate It seems like there is a pretty high cost of having kids for the first several years, so presumably there must be some longterm benefit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34573452) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 6:10 PM Author: Diverse onyx stage nowag or you're just stuck with them and can't return them to the fucking mall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34573463) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:29 PM Author: Talking range (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575153) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 6:11 PM Author: purple splenetic messiness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34573473) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:00 PM Author: Glassy abode place of business (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34574924) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:20 PM Author: maniacal mauve hospital nah, my uncle is in his 90s, never had kids never got married, still living the life with 4 houses in 3 countries; openly mocked my brother at his wedding for getting married and told us he was going to try to hook up with a woman in her 60s over at the casino; he did
my mom (big kidmo) asked what he will leave behind; he said hopefully money and to be buried with his middle fingers to be raised up |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:22 PM Author: Glassy abode place of business He cries himself to sleep every night and prays for death. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575097) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:30 PM Author: maniacal mauve hospital nah, all the siblings still alive and that's who he cares about (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575156) |
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Date: March 22nd, 2018 7:30 PM Author: grizzly fat ankles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#35664601) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:31 PM Author: angry galvanic death wish brunch So I have a head start. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575169) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:28 PM Author: Talking range lol why are child havers so insecure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575145) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:40 PM Author: cerebral house telephone because when you have kids, often the only way it can seem worth it is imagining bitter regret had you not had them... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575253) |
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Date: November 1st, 2017 11:01 AM Author: Lime office yep, painfully true. unhappy people with families have to sit around convincing themselves that they're still better off or they'll go insane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34578525) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 8:02 PM Author: grizzly fat ankles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34758456) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:31 PM Author: purple splenetic messiness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575171) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:53 PM Author: Cracking Principal's Office Laser Beams Probably correct. My kid is pretty much the only thing that gives my life meaning. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575370) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:55 PM Author: Talking range That’s kind of sad. I have other things to give my life meaning (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575390) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:57 PM Author: shimmering skinny woman you’re a tad unhinged ITT d00d (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575402) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:59 PM Author: Talking range I think the idea that your life doesnt have meaning until you have kids is pathetic tbh. I guess not everyone has things they are passionate about (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575416) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:57 PM Author: Cracking Principal's Office Laser Beams That's great, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575406) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:27 PM Author: shimmering skinny woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575596) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 9:56 PM Author: carmine pit boiling water any non-religious person having kids is pretty much just playing a game of existential "pass the buck" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575399) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:01 PM Author: Adventurous center newt Explain? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34575428) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:05 PM Author: carmine pit boiling water it's pretty obvious imo
if everything is meaningless (and it is unless you're a true religionmo) and your life is void of any fulfillment (even if it is ultimately technically meaningless, some people do achieve this) like 99% of us then the most sure-fire distraction from the void of eternity and death is children. you're now responsible for a life, which even if it is meaningless both a) kicks in evolutionary instincts and attachment and b) serves as a huge distraction for 20 years until you're basically ready to give up and start dying.
once people run out of distractions and reach the point of void (school! college! job! grad school! bigger job! ??? :() they enter a stage of listlessness for which having children is the answer. |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 6:53 PM Author: Comical parlor dog poop Wrong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34719464) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 6:59 PM Author: Pea-brained dark reading party theater stage no, you're just an ugly faggot with low-value genes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34719508) |
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Date: October 31st, 2017 10:39 PM Author: vigorous spot kids are 180
modern marriage/family life sucks ass
not in the xo omg I never get laid, my wife is fat, I can't buy a Ferrari sense, that part sucks but less important as you age
men always get dragged out to shitty kid birthday parties with a bunch of equally bored strangers
you talk to wife about the most inane shit day in and day out
work hard? constantly shamed for not being there for your family
want to relax after working hard? lol nothing makes a woman angrier
decide to have a few beers and real talk with a fellow bro? "you were being extremely loud and rude at the party!"
it's no wonder most married men get into golf |
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Date: November 1st, 2017 1:48 AM Author: smoky stirring locale Does "modern marriage/family life" innately suck ass, or do most people just make choices/habits that cause it to suck, and those choices could be avoided? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34577040) |
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Date: November 1st, 2017 7:21 AM Author: Pink plaza The easiest way to avoid this disaster is to avoid marriage altogether.
Chempig's analysis is spot on.
As far as OP is concerned, I have two children that I love dearly, but I think I would be happier without them. |
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Date: November 1st, 2017 7:17 AM Author: Citrine mind-boggling wrinkle stead George Clooney just had twins why can't I wait until his age? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34577496) |
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Date: November 1st, 2017 11:01 AM Author: Provocative Unhinged National Security Agency Ljl no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34578528) |
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Date: November 1st, 2017 1:58 PM Author: Insanely creepy silver whorehouse affirmative action this is a point in favor of the OP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34579701) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 6:47 PM Author: sienna mischievous travel guidebook becky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34719430) |
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Date: November 1st, 2017 11:25 AM Author: medicated turquoise den LOL NO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34578697) |
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Date: November 18th, 2017 6:53 PM Author: Exhilarant mint garrison foreskin Damned if you do, damned if you don't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34719469) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:52 PM Author: frisky water buffalo electric furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34758416) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 8:05 PM Author: walnut university immigrant nah. i want at least 3 sons (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3781166&forum_id=2#34758481) |
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