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Why repeal the estate tax?
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:01 AM Author: Nudist Aquamarine Parlor Sneaky Criminal I dont want people giving their kids more than $5M a piece. Less spoiled shitheads the better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586629) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:17 AM Author: Comical Cordovan Sweet Tailpipe By the way - this isn't how estate tax works. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586708) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:36 PM Author: Nubile Karate Roast Beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587937) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:55 PM Author: high-end whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588106) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:04 PM Author: spectacular splenetic striped hyena philosopher-king (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588184) |
Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:02 AM Author: Frum factory reset button mother Because there are a lot of impoverished farmers who are devastated by the draconian death tax (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586637) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:03 AM Author: Razzle international law enforcement agency guy inappropriately using sarcasm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586642) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:55 PM Author: high-end whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588108) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:10 AM Author: supple impertinent personal credit line base less money for dem programs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586674) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:08 PM Author: milky milk This is the best argument (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588218) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:12 AM Author: Mustard station pervert Because it's inherently bullshit and even hard working middle class and poors agree (white males).
The money has been taxed. The deceased has a right to do what he so chooses with it. It's his and he earned it, no matter what Obama says. It's not the govt's, they've already taken their share.
Edit: I do think stepped up basis should be eliminated. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:15 AM Author: Navy Cracking Hunting Ground Piazza Money is often taxed a bunch of times you dumbass. The trust fund kids didn't earn the money. Lol how easily people can be deluded watching fox news all day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586697) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:18 AM Author: Mustard station pervert No but the person who is technically being taxed did. It's their family. No one likes knowing that their wealth, which has already been taxed, is being taken at their death.
I think you would feel differently if you were in position to have to pay the estate tax or a family member was. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:22 AM Author: Well-lubricated electric furnace it's very easy to manage your estate to avoid the estate tax. The elites just want to find one more way to fuck over everyone else so they can avoid having to pay some attorney to set up a trust. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586746) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:01 AM Author: milky milk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587066) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:09 AM Author: indigo thirsty tattoo It's possible to reduce or defer the estate taxes due, especially for estates that are small (~$11 million and annual gifting) but it is very difficult to not pay anything if you're a billionaire. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587125) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:10 AM Author: Well-lubricated electric furnace excuse me if I don't give a shit about billionaires (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587134) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:21 PM Author: indigo thirsty tattoo I don't, either. That's why I want to keep the estate tax, which will take billions from billionaires. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587765) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:23 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy indian lodge I'm in a position to not receive any inheritance yet live in an area surrounded by trust fund kids who raise the cost of living and have disproportionate political influence due to daddy's money. Why should i be disadvantaged? Its not a victimless crime. Its bullshit and needs to die. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586756) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:25 AM Author: Comical Cordovan Sweet Tailpipe Move somewhere you can be with your peers then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586766) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:26 AM Author: Mustard station pervert (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586775) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:13 AM Author: milky milk Hard to find jobs for most outside of big cities (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587158) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:16 AM Author: Topaz mad-dog skullcap halford not really (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587194) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:18 AM Author: milky milk Yeah really (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587211) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:23 AM Author: zombie-like nighttime rigpig no it's not you queer. you live in mfh or sf because you want to (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587257) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:57 PM Author: Comical Cordovan Sweet Tailpipe It's not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588125) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:26 AM Author: Mustard station pervert Why should I be disadvantaged for not being 6' 3"?
Life isn't fucking fair. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:48 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy indian lodge (guy who thinks an unchangeable physical characteristic is the same as a man made tax law) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588539) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 4:20 PM Author: startling gay wizard Hey fuck you. Just because your marriage failed and you have no kids to leave anything to doesn’t mean you get to steal from those that do. Even if the kids didn’t “earn it” neither did the faggots that the govt is going to give it to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34589670) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:16 AM Author: Nudist Aquamarine Parlor Sneaky Criminal Ya but it helps prevent olagarchs from controlling everything for multiple generations. I think most people support leveling the playing field. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586705) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:20 AM Author: Mustard station pervert Actually, public opinion is against the estate tax. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586726) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:20 AM Author: Comical Cordovan Sweet Tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586732) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:22 AM Author: Nudist Aquamarine Parlor Sneaky Criminal Maybe the public opinion of RSF and Trump Jr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586751) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 2:49 PM Author: high-end whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588970) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:23 AM Author: Well-lubricated electric furnace wow a bunch of temporarily embarrassed millionaires hate the estate tax... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586754) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:27 AM Author: Mustard station pervert i don't think the polls only survey millionaires. Good try though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586780) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:30 AM Author: Well-lubricated electric furnace retard shtick?
That's not what I said... |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:32 AM Author: Mustard station pervert I said public opinion is against the estate tax.
You said a bunch of millionaires are against the estate tax.
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:34 AM Author: Well-lubricated electric furnace you are dumb. Maybe just take the rest of the day off from poasting.
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/328134-socialism-never-took-root-in-america-because-the-poor-see |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:36 AM Author: Mustard station pervert ljl sorry i don't know a quote from some mid level Canadian author.
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:36 AM Author: Well-lubricated electric furnace it's an extremely well known quote among non-mouth breathing retards (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586852) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:38 AM Author: Mustard station pervert i'm sure! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586861) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:38 AM Author: Well-lubricated electric furnace http://lmgtfy.com/?q=temporarily+embarrassed+millionaires (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586863) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:40 AM Author: Mustard station pervert ljl like that is conclusive of anything.
A reddit page from 2014 is the fourth result.
I'm sure you and your Hamilton classmates studied that quote intensively though. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:41 AM Author: Well-lubricated electric furnace I'm sure you've outted yourself as a low-iq prole ITT
keeping fighting it though, I'm sure you'll prove everyone wrong eventually |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:42 AM Author: Mustard station pervert Sorry you've outted yourself as a poor shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586900) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:44 AM Author: Comical Cordovan Sweet Tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586911) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:49 AM Author: Well-lubricated electric furnace (guy that literally thought "temporarily embarrassed millionaires" meant millionaires)
lol please continue being a combative retard. It's really making my morning. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:38 AM Author: Comical Cordovan Sweet Tailpipe That quote is the fucking underpinning of the American Dream. It literally speaks to capitalism.
Die now please. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:39 AM Author: Well-lubricated electric furnace lololololololololololololololololololololololol
hehe the American dream!! |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:39 AM Author: Comical Cordovan Sweet Tailpipe That anyone can make it etc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586873) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:40 AM Author: Well-lubricated electric furnace let me stop you right there hoss.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586879) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:40 AM Author: Comical Cordovan Sweet Tailpipe No need amigo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586883) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:16 AM Author: Frum factory reset button mother is this a low-IQ shtick or something (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586706) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:20 AM Author: Mustard station pervert Solid argument. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586730) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:20 AM Author: Frum factory reset button mother yours is: double taxation + poors agree with me!
it's not worthy of a response |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:21 AM Author: Mustard station pervert Yup that's all I said!
Fitting moniker |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:23 AM Author: Frum factory reset button mother Because it's inherently bullshit = circular
and even hard working middle class and poors agree (white males) = poors agree with me!
The money has been taxed. = double taxation!
The deceased has a right to do what he so chooses with it = circular
It's his and he earned it, no matter what Obama says. = circular
It's not the govt's, they've already taken their share. = double taxation! |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:24 AM Author: Mustard station pervert I don't think that arguing the gov't taking 40% of someone's estate is unfair is circular.
People (besides shit libs and minorities) don't like the gov't taking too much of people's money. That's not circular.
On second thought, none of that is really circular.
You seem dumb and without a good counterargument. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:26 AM Author: Frum factory reset button mother okay so you are low-IQ, but it's not a shtick. got it. thanks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586777) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:27 AM Author: Mustard station pervert Under your view basically any ethical argument is circular.
Add "Low IQ" to your moniker and it'll be perfect. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:37 AM Author: Rebellious Sound Barrier Lodge "The money has been taxed."
You can make that case with all income. People along the line of transactions that resulted in your income, paid taxes on that money.
Also, the goal of taxation is to maximize revenue and minimize the impact to the economy. Wealthier people and people with higher incomes have much higher savings rates than poorer people. That's because the value of additional consumption for a poor person is greater (give a guy with $10k income an additional $1k and he'll spend it; give a rich guy an additional $1k and he'll save most of it). That means the tax burden should have a progressive rate structure (especially for modern economies that rely on consumer spending). Cutting the estate tax and increasing taxes on people with lower incomes to pay for it is dumb economics.
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:49 AM Author: Mustard station pervert Why don't we tax all wealth then?
I understand everything you said. I'm not even against the idea of the estate tax completely. I just think it should be normal capital gains on the investments and get rid of the stepped up basis and estate tax. The optics are better and it's less. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:01 AM Author: Rebellious Sound Barrier Lodge "Why don't we tax all wealth then?"
Tax increases can no doubt create disincentives to work or encourage capital flight. But looking at the income and wealth gains for those in the top 5%, it doesn't look like we are anywhere near that problem with our current system of taxation. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:03 AM Author: zombie-like nighttime rigpig your talking out of your ass again, fyi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587075) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:49 AM Author: indigo thirsty tattoo So are you against property taxes and sales taxes, which taxes money that was already subject to income tax? Also, a lot of the money subject to the estate tax has never been taxed before because of the basis adjustment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586962) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:51 AM Author: Mustard station pervert Double taxation wasn't my only or most important reasoning.
I hate property tax.
Sales tax at 5-8% or whatever is much less.
I agree with getting rid of stepped-up basis. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 2:43 PM Author: blue multi-colored main people It seems to the only reasoning included in your OP. And it’s bad reasoning for the points mentioned 100x in this thread; namely that the estate tax is one of, if not the most efficient tax and it has the nice little side effect of discouraging idle wealth that studies show tends to result in substance abuse, dissatisfaction and dissipation within three generations.
Your other point about the popularity of its repeal is also bad. The fact that the majority of the country can’t understand that cutting the estate tax requires raising other taxes (such as, wait for it, the income tax, which would have been higher in the first place if the estate tax didn’t exist) is not a good argument for changing our country’s finances. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:13 PM Author: heady mint jewess internal respiration It's far less bullshit than almost any other tax out there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587669) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:13 AM Author: hot elite psychic because that's who makes campaign donations (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586689) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:14 AM Author: Comical Cordovan Sweet Tailpipe I hate the estate tax but could support something if it only applied to cash, securities in publicly traded companies, and bonds maturing within a year of the decedent's death. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586690) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:15 AM Author: erotic chapel (guy who thinks the threshold for spoiling kids is $5 million)
(guy conflating "next of kin" with "kids") |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:16 AM Author: bipolar spot reading party you have to be a real loser to be so contemptuous of people who amass a ten million dollar "fortune". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586707) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:21 AM Author: Nudist Aquamarine Parlor Sneaky Criminal That’s way more than anyone needs to get by. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586738) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:22 AM Author: Comical Cordovan Sweet Tailpipe Who fucking cares? That guy earned it. If he wants to give it to his kids so be it. If they are fucktards the money won't make another generation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586750) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:24 AM Author: Nudist Aquamarine Parlor Sneaky Criminal That’s the point. The kid didnt earn it. If the guy who did is dead we should redistribute it to level the playing field. That’s part of this country’s founding principles. We dont want a feudal system where oligarchs control everything by passing land down through generations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586759) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:26 AM Author: Comical Cordovan Sweet Tailpipe No we shouldn't and no it isn't.
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:28 AM Author: Mustard station pervert LJL that isn't part of this country's founding principles at all.
Inside the mind of a lib ladies and gentlemen. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:30 AM Author: bipolar spot reading party lol cr. jfc people are starting to believe libs rewriting of history (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586803) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:33 AM Author: erotic chapel that's why the estate tax was instituted from day one, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586826) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:35 AM Author: Nudist Aquamarine Parlor Sneaky Criminal We have a limited supply of land now and way more people. If we want to level the playing field we need to go after the children of the ultra rich. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586836) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:36 AM Author: Comical Cordovan Sweet Tailpipe Are you fucking serious? We have a limited supply of land now? And when the county was founded and was a fraction of the size we had an unlimited supply of land?
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:37 AM Author: erotic chapel lol yfwgi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586853) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:44 AM Author: Topaz mad-dog skullcap halford he's right. we have to go after the families (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586916) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:51 AM Author: erotic chapel lol. ask yourself two simple questions. 1) what percentage of families in this country would actually benefit from estate tax repeal bc their parents are that loaded and/or don't already derive the near equivalent to a repeal using estate planning strategies 2) do you think that you will be on a level playing field with them if they don't gain further benefit from an estate tax repeal? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586977) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:33 AM Author: Comical Cordovan Sweet Tailpipe Didn't the estate tax in the US basically begin around 1898? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586828) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:04 AM Author: Sepia arousing brunch rigor Why is death special and why is the family relationship relevant especially in a country that prides itself on being a meritocracy?
Gifts during one's life are taxable and every other form of income is taxable, with few exceptions.
Eliminating the estate tax is basically making a special rule to benefit only the extremely wealthy with the reduction in tax revenue subsidized by everyone else. How is that fair? |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:08 AM Author: Mustard station pervert LJL like the wealthy aren't already subsidizing everyone else.
This is the problem. The rich pay 99% of tax revenue. Cut it to 98.9% and it's unfair!!! |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:09 AM Author: milky milk They should pay 100% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587124) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:13 AM Author: Nudist Aquamarine Parlor Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587154) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:13 AM Author: Well-lubricated electric furnace You realize that people wouldn't be as up in arms about all of this if the top .1% hadn't been stealing from us for the last 30 years.... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587163) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:21 PM Author: milky milk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588329) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:12 AM Author: erotic chapel (it is opposite day)
the "special rules" are always directed AT the wealthy who already pay the lion's share of taxes in this country. a meritocracy doesn't mean punish those who maek it or were simply born lucky. there are attractive and ugly people too. should we take a hammer to the faces of the attractive ones to "level the playing field?" |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:35 PM Author: Sepia arousing brunch rigor No but they were born attractive without the government setting up special rules to make them even more attractive.
The heirs of the wealthy were born wealthy. Great. No one is saying inheritance should be outlawed, but we dont need to deviate from our general rules to treat that income as different from other forms of income in order to make them even more wealthy. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:45 PM Author: erotic chapel "No one is saying inheritance should be outlawed,"
you sure about that?
and if no one is saying it, why aren't they if the goal is to level the playing field? Inheriting $10 million tax free hardly sounds like leveling the playing field to me.
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:53 PM Author: Sepia arousing brunch rigor Hey maybe some people are, but I'm not and I don't think it's in any way a majority position.
You seem incapable of actually discussing tax policy. I never said the purpose of taxing inheritance is to level the playing field. All I said was there is no good argument to treat that form of unearned income as fundamentally different than other forms of unearned income, which certainly is what elimination of the estate tax does.
Compare it to the treatment of inter vivos gifts and treasure trove. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:06 PM Author: erotic chapel "All I said was there is no good argument to treat that form of unearned income as fundamentally different than other forms of unearned income"
are other forms of unearned income tax free up to $10 million? |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:10 PM Author: Sepia arousing brunch rigor "fundamentally" i.e. subject to income tax vs not subject to income tax.
there are differences in the way in which unearned income is taxed. E.g. qualified dividends are taxed differently than regular dividends.
I agree with you though that all inheritance should be taxed or at the very least the threshold should be a lot lower than $10 million. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:18 PM Author: erotic chapel lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588299) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 4:12 PM Author: Nofapping hairy legs genital piercing He probably didn't. Most likely that value was created by some employees and didn't pay them the full value of their labor. In any case, his kids sure as hell didn't earn it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34589600) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:27 AM Author: bipolar spot reading party its 300k/yr in fixed income lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586781) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:14 AM Author: pink black woman Does this sort of argument work on anyone?
"Well,I sure as shit don't want to be perceived as a loser on an anonymous tweetblog, so I best be changing my stance." |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:25 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy indian lodge its not a victimless crime. it raises the cost of living, it needs to die and every boomer along with it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586764) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:33 AM Author: zombie-like nighttime rigpig do we actually get a significant amount of revenue from it? if it's just to punish ppl for having money then fuck that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586822) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:35 AM Author: Comical Cordovan Sweet Tailpipe It's minuscule. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586838) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:36 AM Author: Topaz mad-dog skullcap halford It's not punishment for people who are dead. They are being punished in hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586843) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 4:13 PM Author: Nofapping hairy legs genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34589612) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:37 AM Author: Nudist Aquamarine Parlor Sneaky Criminal $19.3 billion in 2014. The problem is we are funding this by taking away key lower and middle class tax deductions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586854) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:38 AM Author: Mustard station pervert Aren't we raising the standard deduction?
Lower and middle class are going to be better off from this.
And please don't consider a single bro making $150k "middle class".
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:39 AM Author: Topaz mad-dog skullcap halford 80 to 400k is middle class (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586871) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:39 AM Author: zombie-like nighttime rigpig I don't understand how letting ppl keep their own money needs to be "funded". you sound like a lib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586874) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:41 AM Author: Rebellious Sound Barrier Lodge Well that's what the GOP tax plan does. It pays for something like cutting the estate tax with policies that increase taxes on certain middle and upper-middle class groups. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586887) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:42 AM Author: zombie-like nighttime rigpig again, i don't agree that you need to "pay" for people keeping their own money.
raising taxes on the middle class is literally the only thing democrats actually believe in so go fuck yourself |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:45 AM Author: Topaz mad-dog skullcap halford he means neutralizing the decrease in revenues by hiking other rates (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586924) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:46 AM Author: zombie-like nighttime rigpig why not neutralize the decrease in revenue by cutting spending, i.e. - stuff we actually pay for, instead of his twisted definition of paying for stuff? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586935) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:49 AM Author: Topaz mad-dog skullcap halford that would be my recommendation lol but everybody needs their programs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586951) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:12 AM Author: indigo thirsty tattoo Yep. I'd be okay with means-testing Medicare, trimming down Medicaid to a minimal bundle of services (basically, don't die) rather than allowing states to choose what to include, cut military spending because they keep doing dumb shit like spend $3 billion on a boat that can't fight, and hundreds of millions of dollars on an airplane that has to park in the shade to avoid overheating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587152) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:52 AM Author: Rebellious Sound Barrier Lodge That stuff we pay for disproportionately benefits the old-age clowns who vote GOP. Our safety net is mediocre by western standards so there's really not enough there to pay for substantial tax cuts unless you're ready to really fuck over granny's Social Security (or enact serious healthcare reforms to reduce costs in the system). They can find money by cutting defense too. But lol at the GOP every doing anything like that. The reality is that the system is expensive and substantial tax cuts don't make sense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586986) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:00 AM Author: Mustard station pervert dude, poors pay negative taxes plus get food stamps and Medicaid. It's not just olds.
Cutting defense!?!?! Where's the shitlib yesterday saying immigration is a requirement to continue to be the world's superpower. Seems like same might apply to defense! |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:05 AM Author: milky milk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587091) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:06 AM Author: Rebellious Sound Barrier Lodge "poors pay negative taxes plus get food stamps"
Increased taxation on poors will have the highest negative impact on the economy since they spend every dollar they get (see my example above). Further, the fact is that you won't raise enough revenues from cuts unless you attack old-age spending and people don't want that. In the end our safety net isn't all that robust and our quality of life suffers for it. We shouldn't even be talking about substantial tax cuts. Tax reform, sure. Substantial tax cuts don't make sense for what people expect out of life in the western world. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:16 AM Author: Mustard station pervert there's no increased taxation on poors though....
Or let me rephrase, drop in their negative income tax.
LJL at calling it a "tax increase" if they go from receiving $5k from gov't to $3k |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:11 AM Author: indigo thirsty tattoo The old folk consume a shit ton of Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587138) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:02 AM Author: zombie-like nighttime rigpig your talking out of your ass again, fyi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587069) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:53 AM Author: Aphrodisiac Blathering Pit Police Squad Medicare has gotta go.
Everyone under 40 should literally be SCREAMING to completely cut Medicare for anyone over like 70 or 75. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:06 AM Author: Topaz mad-dog skullcap halford (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587092) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:10 AM Author: Rebellious Sound Barrier Lodge So we substantially decrease our elders' life expectancy so those at the very top of the economy, who have enjoyed the most profitable years in our country's history, get a tax cut that they won't even notice? Why are the tax cuts so necessary? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587132) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:13 AM Author: milky milk Yes. It’s called economic populism. What don’t you get (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587165) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:16 AM Author: zombie-like nighttime rigpig yep, only ppl at very top are getting tax cuts. you def aren't talking out of your ass or anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587189) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:53 AM Author: Soul-stirring crusty hall cuck Fuck the estate tax. If you don't support repeal you should join the rest of the leftist progressives for execution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34586996) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 10:59 AM Author: Mustard station pervert circular argument!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587047) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:57 PM Author: high-end whorehouse If all of us in the middle class and umc end up with them, you're the ones getting executed, fag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588120) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:07 AM Author: milky milk lol at the middle class GC slaves ITT white knighting their (((masters))). Pathetic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587107) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:14 AM Author: Well-lubricated electric furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587168) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:20 AM Author: zombie-like nighttime rigpig lol at pretending that the govt robbing UMC families and small businesses will in any way benefit you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587224) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:22 AM Author: milky milk Lol at white knighting some teenager with 8 figure networth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587244) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:42 AM Author: erotic chapel you would do a lot better in life if you devoted your energy towards personal progress rather than begrudging others for what they have (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587389) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:42 AM Author: Well-lubricated electric furnace lol at your bootstrap boomer logic just fucking lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587401) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:44 AM Author: erotic chapel it doesn't have to be financial progress little breh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587409) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:07 PM Author: milky milk lol at this trite bullshit. You know nothing about my life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587625) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:11 PM Author: erotic chapel i know enough to stand by my post which can be applicable to anyone who spends time bemoaning the good fortune of others (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587651) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:12 PM Author: milky milk Yeah man anyone who favors an estate tax must be a miserable NOWAG. Now you’re arguing like a lib. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587658) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:13 PM Author: erotic chapel where did i say that, tard? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587670) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:14 PM Author: milky milk underlying premise of your original comment, bitchboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587683) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:17 PM Author: erotic chapel no, it was based on your posting. nice try though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587708) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:22 PM Author: milky milk so the fact that I’m a professional musician who spends 6 hours a day practicing for competitions is what tells you I should spend more time on “personal progress”? oh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587778) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:25 PM Author: erotic chapel lolwut. i'm not talking about your posts that i've never read. i'm talking about the ones itt that betray a certain attitude towards the wealthy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587826) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:30 PM Author: milky milk Right, anyone who thinks we should have an estate tax is a “loser”. You argue like a lib. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587886) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:34 PM Author: erotic chapel lol at you, taking a lib position and then arguing for it like they do, telling me i argue like a lib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587923) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:36 PM Author: Sepia arousing brunch rigor tcr except for the anti semitism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587942) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:23 PM Author: Razzle international law enforcement agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588340) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 4:13 PM Author: Nofapping hairy legs genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34589614) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 11:46 AM Author: Cerebral lettuce crackhouse Deadmos can vote
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/virginia-college-student-gets-100-days-in-jail-for-registering-dead-voters-for-democrats/article/2631163 |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:03 PM Author: erotic chapel i wonder how many of the estate tax proponents itt who use the "level the playing field" argument are also affirmative action proponents (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587598) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:09 PM Author: milky milk I’m certainly not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587634) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:11 PM Author: erotic chapel yeah, that's what i figured (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587654) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:13 PM Author: milky milk AA hurts minorities. Not a perfect comparison. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587672) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:14 PM Author: erotic chapel and i'm sure that is why you are against it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587679) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:15 PM Author: milky milk Right, we’ve already established that you can read my mind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587689) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:18 PM Author: erotic chapel it's just so refreshing to know that you are in no way hypocritical in your policy positions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587722) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:20 PM Author: milky milk I already explained why they are different (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587751) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:27 PM Author: erotic chapel just lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587855) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:31 PM Author: milky milk Do you not agree that AA adversely impacts minorities, or do you just not believe anyone could possibly care? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587904) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:36 PM Author: erotic chapel i agree that where it benefits you, you are all for "leveling the playing field." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587940) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:38 PM Author: milky milk AA doesn’t actually level the playing field though. It mostly “benefits” blacks who are already well off and has various well-documented negative consequences (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587957) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:47 PM Author: erotic chapel yes, we know you are very concerned about black people and their well-being. you don't need to convince us further. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588040) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:48 PM Author: milky milk I prefer policies that don’t make things worse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588054) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:49 PM Author: erotic chapel ....for you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588065) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:50 PM Author: milky milk AA makes things worse for everyone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588071) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:52 PM Author: erotic chapel all policies that you disagree with make things worse for everyone and do not reflect a self-interested bias (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588083) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:54 PM Author: milky milk The problems with AA are well-documented. Do you disagree? Are you willing to make an argument in favor of AA? I’m sure you’re just a disinterested party in this estate tax thing, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588098) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:08 PM Author: erotic chapel no man my father is a billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588217) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:09 PM Author: milky milk Ok then you’re not just a retarded cuck like I thought (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588226) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:19 PM Author: erotic chapel wish i could say the same about you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588309) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:21 PM Author: milky milk yes clearly the guy who wants to tax billionaires is a cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588323) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:30 PM Author: erotic chapel billionaires aren't taxed? billionaires don't give away big $ to charitable causes? billionaires can't use effective estate tax planning to minimize tax hits to their heirs? well shit, idk the answer to any of these questions but one thing i know is that we need to get more $ in the hands of our popularly approved, efficient, big government. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588400) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:33 PM Author: milky milk This thread is about the estate tax. Obviously that’s the tax I’m referring to. Don’t be disingenuous (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588426) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:45 PM Author: erotic chapel don't be disingenuous by pretending my post is not relevant to the estate tax debate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588519) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:48 PM Author: milky milk If they’re already using effective estate planning, why does this matter so much to you? The working classes should have to fit the bill for their estate legal costs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588538) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:57 PM Author: erotic chapel it only matters to me in the sense that i don't want more socialist bullshit seeping into our society, whether it be in the form of actual policy or rhetoric which can then ultimately lead to policy. billionaires will obviously be fine with or without an estate tax. but the arguments for it like "we need to level the playing field" or "it should be 100%" certainly fit the bill of what i'm referring to. you say you're not a shitlib? stop talking like one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588609) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 2:06 PM Author: milky milk They’re raising taxes on the rest of us to pay for this. You act like this will just be made up out of thin air. Increasing the debt to fund upper class tax cuts is NOT conservative. It’s a handout to wealthy. You’re the lib. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588672) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 2:07 PM Author: erotic chapel lol at you literally parroting a shitlib talking point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588679) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 2:09 PM Author: milky milk Lol at you thinking redistribution of wealth is “conservative” when it benefits the rich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588689) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 2:11 PM Author: erotic chapel lol nice rewording, shitlib. it would actually be reversing an onerous redistribution of wealth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588699) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 2:13 PM Author: milky milk By taking money from the middle class and giving it to the uber rich. So populist (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588706) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 2:24 PM Author: erotic chapel Republicans are for estate tax repeal. Trump is for estate tax repeal. Shitlibs are against estate tax repeal. i'm not saying that you can't take a position outside of your political sphere but at least call it what it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588781) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 3:05 PM Author: milky milk yeah man what reliable conservatives the eGOP are. and trump is an actual democrat. fucking kike. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34589104) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 3:13 PM Author: erotic chapel you can get as angry as you want and call me whatever you’d like but you lost this argument, I won it, and that’s the only thing that any person worth a damn who posts on this site would respect. that is all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34589156) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:13 PM Author: titillating native famous landscape painting Fuck leveling the playing field. Inherited wealth means there is no playing field at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587673) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:17 PM Author: erotic chapel so then you are arguing for a complete elimination of inherited wealth? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587700) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:18 PM Author: Nudist Aquamarine Parlor Sneaky Criminal Above $10M yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587716) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:19 PM Author: Well-lubricated electric furnace forgot to switch out of your alt, ARE Reptile (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587734) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:20 PM Author: Nudist Aquamarine Parlor Sneaky Criminal Im the OP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587755) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:20 PM Author: erotic chapel why stop there? do you honestly believe that inheriting $10M tax free creates a level playing field? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587749) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:21 PM Author: Nudist Aquamarine Parlor Sneaky Criminal No but its a good compromise (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587776) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:24 PM Author: erotic chapel sacrificing your principles so soon? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587803) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:17 PM Author: Nudist Aquamarine Parlor Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587709) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:28 PM Author: Navy Cracking Hunting Ground Piazza It's almost as if there's an easy distinction between these... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587865) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:05 PM Author: spectacular splenetic striped hyena philosopher-king yea the arguments made are just universally awful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588197) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:15 PM Author: erotic chapel of course there are distinctions, but mainly in the attitudes of those stuck in the middle of the economic hierarchy towards the people above them vs. the ones below them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588273) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 5:23 PM Author: high-end whorehouse Wtf are you talking about?
AA takes unqualified people and gives them jobs they don't deserve.
The estate tax takes money that is about to be passed by those who actually earned it and taxes it before giving it to those that don't deserve it.
I'm not sure why you think you have to support AA to support the estate tax. You can consistently be against giving shit to people that don't deserve it. |
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Date: November 3rd, 2017 12:04 AM Author: high-end whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34593154) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:12 PM Author: titillating native famous landscape painting Tiffany Trump is why. She's hot and needs a full billion to get by on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587661) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:22 PM Author: Opaque excitant tanning salon elastic band Because when RSF finally settles down in his 40s with a similarly aged woman and they have a retarded child, he'll need to inherit Grandpa's money lest he work as a bagger at Evan's grocery store. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587783) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:33 PM Author: milky milk dude you’re revealing a certain attitude towards the wealthy. You’d do better in life if you spent more time on personal progress and not focusing and RSF’s good fortune. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587910) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:39 PM Author: vermilion indirect expression background story generational wealth is cancer. sorry about your chronic case of temporarily embarrassed millionaire syndrome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587967) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:40 PM Author: milky milk That poast was mocking one of the anti-estate tax guys itt fyi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587976) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:44 PM Author: vermilion indirect expression background story sry was skimming the thread TBH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588009) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:45 PM Author: milky milk no problem. I don’t blame u. Thread is a shitshow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588025) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:48 PM Author: Well-lubricated electric furnace poaster upthread says that this is not a common saying (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588052) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:39 PM Author: erotic chapel no, i've always thought the posters who regularly take time out to post negatively about RSF are very healthy individuals and should continue to focus their energies there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587968) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:40 PM Author: milky milk Martin Prince is one of the most well adjusted people on here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34587987) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:54 PM Author: Opaque excitant tanning salon elastic band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588591) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:46 PM Author: Opaque excitant tanning salon elastic band This post is mostly an attempt to get RSF riled up to accuse me of being a JJC Alt. I think those sub-threads are really funny. I don't really care what happens to the estate tax. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588029) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:48 PM Author: erotic chapel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588059) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 12:59 PM Author: geriatric motley box office boltzmann Compromise: estate tax staysas it is, except the government can't have the money. It gets thrown into volcanos. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588139) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:00 PM Author: high-end whorehouse I can't imagine not supporting the estate tax. In fact, the Republicans pushing the estate tax repeal pisses the fuck out of me and makes me wonder if the Democrats are so bad. Fuck a bunch of rich spoiled assholes inheriting billions without paying taxes and needing to raise taxes on people that actually work to fund this repeal. Fuck the assholes making disingenuous arguments like "the money is already taxed" (as though money you use to pay sales tax isn't). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588147) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:02 PM Author: spectacular splenetic striped hyena philosopher-king these people are literally falling over themselves to protect Jeff Bezos' kids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588170) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:59 PM Author: high-end whorehouse Absolutely infuriating. I shouldn't have to pay a single cent extra so these fuckers can get an extra whatever million for winning the genetic lottery. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588628) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:01 PM Author: swashbuckling goyim legal warrant This is the first time i've seen such a strong CUCK showing on xo since the advent of TRUMP.
I hate you faggots more than libs. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:22 PM Author: erotic chapel cucks = people who don't think BIGGOVERNMENT would do any better (to put it mildly) with the money than the tiny % of people who would otherwise inherit it. oh what cucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588338) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:24 PM Author: milky milk *writes fat check to billionaire globalist liberals* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588348) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 2:31 PM Author: snowy nursing home legend Cr. He's jewish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588839) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:24 PM Author: Well-lubricated electric furnace They're essentially raising taxes on everyone else to pay for tax cuts for the top 1% and elimination of the estate tax (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588350) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:43 PM Author: erotic chapel they're not even eliminating it so what are you on about. and whining about the wealthy with regard to taxation is ridiculous considering the % of the pie they already pay. we already have a progressive tax system. you just want to make it more progressive. i otoh am not a Bernie supporter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588506) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 2:33 PM Author: high-end whorehouse Protip: they also have a significantly greater share of the wealth so you would 100% expect that they also pay a significantly greater share of the taxes.
I'm also pretty sympathetic to keeping it reasonable for the people who actually earn shit through work, but fuck the kids that do nothing getting boatloads of money tax-free. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 3:02 PM Author: erotic chapel your first point would be relevant if we had a flat tax instead of a progressive tax and then add to that there is an estate tax.
to your second point, for me it’s not about what the kids get or deserve to get. firstly, as i alluded to above, the overwhelming majority of people who inherit money when their parents die are far removed from “kids” age. so, regardless of your contempt for them, they’ve already lived a charmed life whether or not they “earned” it. secondly, it’s about the wishes of that person who earned the money which, imo, should not take a backseat to the wishes of a government (or you) that already taxed said person many times during the course of his/her life. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 5:29 PM Author: high-end whorehouse The people who pay the estate tax often care more about cap gains and carried interest than they do about income tax. It is only "progressive" if you take that out of the equation. The fact that the rich don't really make money from "income" is the overlooked fact.
So as you say, the money has been taxed many times. Why exactly should we not tax it again? We tax movement of money when we feel it is justified. This is definitely a move that justifies a tax. The alternative is to instead tax the money of some guy that actually works for it. Fuck that, tax the rich kid. And if you disagree - enjoy the Democrats coming in and really assfucking your ilk. Because this pisses off even fairly reliable Republicans like me. If you think Ohio, PA, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc. are going to show up for this, you're out of your fucking mind. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 5:33 PM Author: milky milk Rook, (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34590289) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 5:35 PM Author: high-end whorehouse Risten! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34590300) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:47 PM Author: swashbuckling goyim legal warrant Lol okay bro.
I'll be happy to fuck your wife in front of you, but she needs to drop at least 25 lbs first. Let's set a tentative date in mid-february and i'll call and check in around new year's and see how she's doing. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:24 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle love of her life estate tax should be 100%, its the best tax we have (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588354) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 4:15 PM Author: Nofapping hairy legs genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34589632) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:44 PM Author: Kink-friendly stain Wtf happened to xo? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588513) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:46 PM Author: erotic chapel it got poor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588523) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 5:31 PM Author: high-end whorehouse Bitch please. Now that we know you come from a rich family and expect to inherit a fortune, we now know why you're such a degenerate (and also why any female tolerates your bullshit).
The rest of us have decent money but can't sit on our asses waiting for mommy and daddy to hand down piles of wealth. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:50 PM Author: pink black woman XO (and PR before it) were never big END THE DEATH TAX proponents. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588555) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 2:01 PM Author: erotic chapel lol right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588649) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:46 PM Author: hyperventilating chrome range useless brakes Jealousy is the most xo emotion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588526) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 1:55 PM Author: pink black woman To send a message.
Also to encourage present consumption and wealth transfers. |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 2:35 PM Author: high-end whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588860) |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 2:29 PM Author: Razzle international law enforcement agency The greed .1% used to really get taxed back in the day, now we have people making 75k a year imploring other potential voters to not let the uber wealthy shoulder most of the burden
please see below
https://bradfordtaxinstitute.com/Free_Resources/Federal-Income-Tax-Rates.aspx |
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Date: November 2nd, 2017 2:30 PM Author: snowy nursing home legend Kike gadotphile going insane ITT, why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3783225&forum_id=2#34588830) |