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Date: November 6th, 2017 12:15 PM Author: Vivacious house moishe goes to sholmo's store and buys a dozen 2x4's to build his sukkah.
shlomo asks moishe if he wants them delivers. moishe declines, saying he'll load them on his car's roof rack.
moishe loads the poles himself, and then asks one of shlomo's workers to help secure them.
the 2x4's werent properly aligned on the roof rack so the worker helped adjust them so they could be properly secured. in the process, one of the 2x4's falls off the rack and cracks the car mirror.
discuss who may be liable to whom. |
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Date: November 6th, 2017 12:16 PM Author: Transparent french chef patrolman "moishe goes to sholmo's store and buys a dozen 2x4's"
Calling flame right here. I don't think I've ever seen a religious Jew in any hardware store. |
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Date: November 6th, 2017 12:18 PM Author: Vivacious house (guy who has never met alpha zionists in israeli settlements) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787186&forum_id=2#34616878) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 12:24 AM Author: Soul-stirring Startled Church Building Guy who has never been in home depot on the day before Sukkot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787186&forum_id=2#34721354) |
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Date: November 6th, 2017 12:19 PM Author: beady-eyed white corn cake giraffe only a FOB would write "wants them delivers" by mistake. lmao @ outing yourself ITT.
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Date: November 6th, 2017 12:15 PM Author: David Ben Gurion (*)
moishe goes to sholmo's store and buys a dozen 2x4's to build his sukkah. shlomo asks moishe if he wants them delivers. moishe declines, saying he'll load them on his car's roof rack.
moishe loads the poles himself, and then asks one of shlomo's workers to help secure them.
the 2x4's werent properly aligned on the roof rack so the worker helped adjust them so they could be properly secured. in the process, one of the 2x4's falls off the rack and cracks the car mirror.
discuss who may be liable to whom. |
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Date: November 6th, 2017 12:23 PM Author: Ruby sanctuary half-breed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787186&forum_id=2#34616911) |
Date: November 6th, 2017 12:20 PM Author: excitant hominid institution Moishe waving away help then grabbing some worker prevented Schlomo from properly provisioning labor for damage-free delivery
waives protection?
EDIT: he received the goods as he originally requested and in agreement with his wishes. Asked for this one worker help- correcting an error made by Moishe and damage is done. Worker may not have been functioning in the capacity they were hired in and this charity effort was not how Moishe would properly contract for goods with protections. |
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Date: November 6th, 2017 12:28 PM Author: Vivacious house moishe said he didnt want delivery. did he say he didnt need any help? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787186&forum_id=2#34616939) |
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Date: November 6th, 2017 12:29 PM Author: excitant hominid institution to Schlomo he did not indicate need for any help
grabs the worker seemingly away from/outside of Schlomo's awareness |
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Date: November 9th, 2017 8:18 PM Author: Vivacious house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787186&forum_id=2#34647334) |
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Date: November 10th, 2017 2:50 AM Author: Thriller Prole Plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787186&forum_id=2#34651118) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 12:22 AM Author: Vivacious house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787186&forum_id=2#34721343) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 12:36 AM Author: olive irradiated persian Shlomo ought to have loaded the burden with Moishe.
He is liable for not having helped to load that burden, however Moishe refusing help means that I think no damages are in order.
The workers are liable for nothing. |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 12:58 AM Author: Vivacious house did moishe refuse help? he refused delivery, not help... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787186&forum_id=2#34721507) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 1:23 AM Author: olive irradiated persian Did Shlomo offer to help Moishe load the planks onto his car?
That's really the crux of the matter (Deut 22:4)
Shlomo's delivery could also theoretically be construed as an offer to unload the burden of Moishe. Moishe's refusal of these offers means he is not liable. |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 12:50 PM Author: olive irradiated persian It also matters if the workers are goyim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787186&forum_id=2#34723370) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 4:05 PM Author: Vivacious house cr. it always does. jews cant be forced to work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787186&forum_id=2#34724416) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2017 7:22 AM Author: bright stimulating rehab In the end, the worker should not have provided negligent help, which is why the store owner is liable for the damage. This is an everyday situation, not a Jew trick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787186&forum_id=2#34826882) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2017 5:39 AM Author: excitant hominid institution resolution? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787186&forum_id=2#34826793) |
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Date: December 17th, 2017 11:38 AM Author: bright stimulating rehab Going to Home Depot, I need an answer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787186&forum_id=2#34941320) |
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Date: January 5th, 2018 3:19 PM Author: Vivacious house RULING:
there are three key questions:
1) whether the worker is a direct or indirect cause of the damage. if he's a direct cause of the damage, he's responsible for both negligent and non-negligent damage and even if it's a total accident. if he's an indirect cause of the damage, he's only responsible if he's negligent.
2) whether the worker is an agent of the store owner, or whether he volunteered his services to the other guy.
3) local custom with this sort of transaction
the ruling isnt really fleshed out beyond that. no answer was given. kinda gay |
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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: bright stimulating rehab oh fuck all that was worthless (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3787186&forum_id=2#35089583) |