Trump welcomed to China w/ highest level pageantry. US media doesn't cover it
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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:54 PM Author: Wonderful deer antler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wya2CNlHhcU
"This was a historic first-ever live broadcast of a Chinese President welcoming a U.S. President at the official ceremony. The pageantry was the highest level China presents in public display honoring any visiting head of state; and U.S. Media never carried it. Let that sink in."
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/
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Date: November 9th, 2017 10:55 AM Author: Azure 180 Tattoo
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Date: November 8th, 2017 10:55 PM Author: boyish macaca fat ankles
This trip is getting basically zero coverage despite the fact that it is the most important trip by a POTUS overseas in 30 years.
Fuck our disingenuous media.
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Date: November 8th, 2017 11:56 PM Author: charismatic autistic address hairy legs
fact. but im having a hard time who in the media has the interest or capacity to report on significant things like this, just buzzfeed BREAKING NEWS.
great to see xo Stevey Miller at the front row of the receiving line.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3790227&forum_id=2#34640146)
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Date: November 8th, 2017 11:15 PM Author: fiercely-loyal sinister doctorate
Top headlines on the NYT:
1. A Year After Trump, Diversity Has Its Day
2. Suburbs Revolt Against Trump
3. Trump Is Ceding Global Leadership to China
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3790227&forum_id=2#34639812)
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Date: November 8th, 2017 11:38 PM Author: Wonderful deer antler
comparison of trump's reception vs obama's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItHC9T3Ifow
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Date: November 9th, 2017 9:40 AM Author: boyish macaca fat ankles
It has nothing to do with spectacle. Its the equivalent of the British PM visiting the United States in the early 20th century.
The existing dominant world player visting the rising power. So many possibilities and so many risks for the coming century.
But I understand if its easier for your brain to frame everything that happens in the world in terms of Dem vs Republican.
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Date: November 9th, 2017 9:54 AM Author: boyish macaca fat ankles
China coming off of solidying the power of their strongest leader since Mao. One of his priorities is to move china firmly onto the world stage (and this means inevitabme confrontation with the current power).
This represents a sea change in Chinese policy since the 80s, which was to slowly and quietly build power and stay off the world stage. This is our first visit since this explicit policy shift.
You really are a simple minded coon.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB124044156269345357
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Date: November 9th, 2017 9:57 AM Author: Cerise Pistol Trust Fund
China has been moving to the world stage for decades bro. Did you really think this was new?
Look back to China undermining western institutions with loans decades ago for an example. You have to have been living under a rock to not know this my friend.
I see a link to an op ed. Please link the apogy tour and perhaps some of its finest hits apologies
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Date: November 9th, 2017 10:55 AM Author: Bearded Maize Kitty Double Fault
"media . . . failing to cover it"
nyt.com front and center is an article about xi jinping right next to an article about trump in china
wapo.com top story is the church shooting and right below it is trump in china
wsj.com most prominent article is trump in china
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Date: November 9th, 2017 10:59 AM Author: self-absorbed corner
CNN FRONT PAGE
https://imgur.com/a/Fs01i
ALL GAY PERVERTS AND “SEXISM”
Edit:
FRONT PAGE OF WAPO YOU LYING BITCH!!!
Story on Honduran illegals, clearly more important right
https://imgur.com/a/H46hk
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Date: November 9th, 2017 10:47 AM Author: boyish macaca fat ankles
Lol @ this simplification.
China is extremely slow, deliberate, and calculated with every thing that they do. For their leader to give the speech he did and to solidify the power he has is an enormous development. The second half of Xi’s presidency will historically mark the entry of China into the great game.
LJL @ Obeezy citing to bank loans.
I understand that people truly despise Trump, but this trip is a big deal and so far hes doing well.
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Date: November 9th, 2017 10:43 AM Author: boyish macaca fat ankles
I was responding to Obeezy’s retarded comment that I personally am somehow blinded by this pageantry.
Yes, the Chinese are good at state visits and national spectacles. Thats what Head of Stats visits are all about.
This doesnt change the fact that this particular trip is symbolically huge for the United States and China.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3790227&forum_id=2#34642470) |
Date: November 9th, 2017 9:38 AM Author: Excitant Fortuitous Meteor Stage
xi jingping CLEARLY WEARING LIFTS
is almost Trump's height
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Date: November 9th, 2017 10:44 AM Author: dead mood indian lodge
Not a Trump or Obama thing, but can we all just be happy that the three globally-relevant economies (USA, China, and EU) are all getting along reasonably well?
Trade wars make everyone poorer. Real wars are worse. Peace pays dividends.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3790227&forum_id=2#34642483) |
Date: November 9th, 2017 10:52 AM Author: big crackhouse liquid oxygen
Far From Washington, ‘Uncle Trump’ Finds Fans in China
By JAVIER C. HERNÁNDEZ and IRIS ZHAONOV. 9, 2017
BEIJING — They call him “Donald the Strong.” They heap praise on his family. They fawn over his rapid-fire tweets. They have even created an online fan club.
In America, President Trump faces a feisty press corps, damaging investigations into associates and sagging approval ratings.
But in China, where Mr. Trump arrived Wednesday, he has acquired a legion of admirers who hail him as a straight-talking politician and business mogul with a knack for deal-making.
“He’s true to himself,” said Dai Xiang, a resident of the eastern province of Jiangsu who belongs to an online group of more than 23,000 people that exchanges news and commentary about Mr. Trump. “He’s real, unlike other politicians.”
As in the United States, Mr. Trump can be a polarizing figure in China. He has his share of critics, who mock him as egoistical and erratic, and for fanning the war flames with North Korea. But he also has many ardent supporters, which is perhaps a surprising development for the leader of China’s biggest geopolitical rival.
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They refer to him as “Uncle Trump,” “Grand Commander” and “Donald the Strong.” After Mr. Trump’s visit to the Forbidden City on Wednesday with President Xi Jinping, one fan wrote on social media, “Long live Emperor Trump!”
Mr. Trump’s Chinese fans praise his irrepressible style, his skill as an entertainer and his willingness to say what he thinks. Many also like the fact that he seems less inhibited than previous American presidents about recognizing China as a superpower and as an equal on the global stage.
And after years of American presidents lecturing China on issues like political prisoners and democracy, many also say they are relieved to see a leader who seems to care more about making deals than idealism.
They say Mr. Trump has changed the tone of America’s conversation with China.
“People are sort of tired of listening to that criticism,” said Xu Qinduo, a political commentator for China Radio International in Beijing. “Now we can talk to each other.”
It helps that the government-run news media has encouraged a positive portrayal of Mr. Trump, focusing on his warm relationship with Mr. Xi and his praise for China. Even those who do know about Mr. Trump’s troubles at home, including the investigation into his campaign’s ties to Russia, say these don’t detract from his admirable qualities.
“I’m not interested in the Russian investigation or his North Korea strategy,” said Zhang Changjiang, 43, an instructor at Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications. “His purpose is clear. He knows how to whet people’s appetite, how to make a scene and how to leverage his abilities.”
For many Chinese, Mr. Trump is a familiar type: the celebrity businessman. Successful, outspoken tycoons can win godlike status in China’s get-rich society, and Mr. Trump is no exception. His books, including “Trump Never Give Up,” received glowing reviews on Chinese websites. He is presented as a role model, a billionaire with his own empire of golf courses and gilded hotels.
Some believe his boardroom acumen will help him strike trade deals that will also benefit China’s economy.
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“As a successful businessman, Trump definitely won’t ignore the huge size of China’s consumer base,” said Li Yang, 25, a designer.
Of course, not everyone is a fan. When asked, some Chinese said they worried that Mr. Trump is inflaming tensions with North Korea, a longtime ally. Others are concerned by his past attacks on China on trade and intellectual property rights. Some described him as mercurial, saying that while he seems to be friendly now, that could suddenly change.
“Trump is a person of ambiguity,” said Sun Caihong, 38, a resident of Beijing. “His policy is not clear. He’s just trying to muddle along.”
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Others were more calculating.
“If he’s doing good for China, I like him,” said Liu Chunyu, 56, a deliveryman. “If not, I don’t like him.”
Even some of those who disagree with Mr. Trump’s policies see him as a refreshing iconoclast, willing to discard the tone of moral superiority that some previous American leaders had held toward China, especially on human rights.
Many Chinese “have a strong revulsion and hostility toward ‘political correctness’ in Western society,” Chen Jibing, a political commentator in Shanghai, wrote in a blog post this week. “They see themselves in Trump.”
The Communist Party’s tight grip on information in China might be playing into Mr. Trump’s popularity, experts say. Stanley Rosen, a political science professor at the University of Southern California, said that the Chinese respect unpredictable, confident personalities, which in their own history would include figures like modern China’s founding father, Mao Zedong.
Mr. Trump is showing that he is spontaneous and “beholden to no one,” Mr. Rosen said.
Mr. Trump’s celebrity status also adds to his mystique. Before his election, he was already known in China as the star of “The Apprentice,” which could be viewed online.
Even his physical appearance has drawn attention — although not always in a flattering way. In lighthearted social media posts, his head of flaxen hair is juxtaposed with photos of roosters and pheasants.
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Mr. Trump’s most effective tool in winning over Chinese audiences may be his family. His daughter Ivanka, who started her own fashion brand, is regarded as a role model for young Chinese entrepreneurs. His 6-year-old granddaughter, Arabella, became a nationally known figure this year after a video appeared of her singing in Chinese.
On Wednesday, Mr. Trump showed Mr. Xi another video of his granddaughter singing in Chinese, which was shared widely after it was posted online, attracting tens of millions of views in less than 24 hours.
Other Chinese take a more hard-nosed approach, embracing Mr. Trump because of the advantages that they see him offering to China. They regard an American retreat from global affairs as an opening for Beijing to extend its influence. They also say Mr. Trump has helped enhance China’s stature by treating Mr. Xi as an equal partner.
The Global Times, an ardently nationalist state-run tabloid, praised Mr. Trump for showing respect to Mr. Xi, such as when he called last month to congratulate Mr. Xi on winning a second five-year term as Communist Party leader.
“Trump is the first American president to do so,” said the editorial, which appeared on Thursday. This “reflects his respect for China’s system.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/09/world/asia/trump-china-fans.html
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Date: November 9th, 2017 11:41 AM Author: big crackhouse liquid oxygen
they love him because he doesn't speak to them in a patronizing and condescending tone about human rights -- like Obama always did.
they're eager to do deals, especially on trade. any deal Trump does will be >>> the deals Obama would have done.
they have been making noises and taking small steps in the right direction about NK. if the NK problem gets solved while Trump is POTUS, he deserves the Nobel.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3790227&forum_id=2#34642995)
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Date: November 9th, 2017 11:47 AM Author: big crackhouse liquid oxygen
i'm a human rights fan.
but, realistically, a POTUS will fundamentally change China by giving a few patronizing remarks?
that's like believing a POTUS can change Islam by flying to Cairo and tossing out a few groveling apologies.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3790227&forum_id=2#34643034)
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Date: November 9th, 2017 11:47 AM Author: charismatic autistic address hairy legs
steel for example?
fucking up american authority? pfft. quite the opposite.
and any serious long term plan to counter china necessarily involves cooperation with russia.
but mentally ill shitlibs dont care about america or its interests short or long term, and have spent the last several years making that impossible and in fact driving russia into chinas arms for no clear reason.
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Date: November 9th, 2017 1:02 PM Author: charismatic autistic address hairy legs
(reads another fortune cookie about inscrutable orientals)
you are actually so clueless here you dont get how clueless you are. kind of like with picking women.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3790227&forum_id=2#34643544)
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Date: November 9th, 2017 11:23 AM Author: big crackhouse liquid oxygen
i found it clever. the overall tone is "Trump is a complete joke and the average Chinese person likes him because the government slants coverage in his favor because he's a naive, greedy business man who wants to let China make business deals."
but here and there in the article are a few reality-based clues that let you know that the authors aren't so much delusional as they are crafty liars.
it's another wink-wink we're the NYT and we will attack Trump on all fronts and on all occasions, but for the knowing reader you can glean the reality.
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