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Major problem with journalism generally. Middling IQs.

It's like Reddit. Lots of 110-120 IQ idiots who are smar...
cerise nubile pozpig
  11/14/17
It’s true, they need to be dumb enough to get riled up and b...
bat-shit-crazy cruise ship friendly grandma
  11/14/17
XO of all places should be aware that high-IQ people are per...
odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman
  11/14/17
name one reasonable thing xo is blind to/hasn't considered
Sickened Lay Partner
  11/14/17
Wasn't referring to XO itself. But the board is full of peop...
odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman
  11/14/17
I said "A" major problem, not "The" majo...
cerise nubile pozpig
  11/14/17
I was referring to beautiful 17-yo's comment about needing t...
odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman
  11/14/17
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cerise nubile pozpig
  11/14/17
Just meant it helps to be able to dig only so deep into an i...
bat-shit-crazy cruise ship friendly grandma
  11/14/17
that's just spin. they dont go too deep into the economics ...
curious frum athletic conference
  11/14/17
true, but if those same high-IQ people actually made it thei...
Fiercely-loyal Laughsome Hospital Keepsake Machete
  11/14/17
Probably, though I think "general cluelessness" is...
odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman
  11/14/17
good to know. any problems to add to this list? http://xo...
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chest-beating startling lodge coffee pot
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It's more that they are unathletic and lack vigor than anyth...
Abnormal slippery orchestra pit
  11/14/17
A major problem (one of many) -- not THE major problem.
cerise nubile pozpig
  11/14/17
Low energy, but not even in a Jeb Bush way who has just had ...
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twisted shaky church building
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high social dominance orientation
Passionate Sooty Plaza
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journalists will be the first against the wall when I come t...
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Territorial Garrison Selfie
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Charles explain
bat-shit-crazy cruise ship friendly grandma
  11/14/17
It doesn't pay a lot (and is concentrated in expensive citie...
odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman
  11/14/17
Also -- attracts ideologically driven people.
cerise nubile pozpig
  11/14/17
It does, though I don't think that's driving down the field'...
odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman
  11/14/17
Agree, but at the expense of fatally corrupting it.
cerise nubile pozpig
  11/14/17
I don't think that's inevitable. Journalism has historically...
odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman
  11/14/17
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Sickened Lay Partner
  11/14/17
also blatant dishonesty
chest-beating startling lodge coffee pot
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Their entire profession is getting their lunches eating by k...
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It's not entirely their fault. The whole structure of the pr...
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chest-beating startling lodge coffee pot
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twisted shaky church building
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Fair point in many contexts. Counterpoint: idiotic pol...
cerise nubile pozpig
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trip crusty gaping resort
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“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows....
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Territorial Garrison Selfie
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If you ask me, newspaper reporters are created at age six wh...
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cerise nubile pozpig
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chest-beating startling lodge coffee pot
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Walnut cracking hunting ground market
  11/15/17
Was this written by Cernovich or Tyler Durden or something
bistre kitty legal warrant
  11/15/17
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umber flatulent alpha bawdyhouse
  11/14/17
Think about the mindset of someone who pursues journalism. A...
Sickened Lay Partner
  11/14/17
other problems: sensationalism, pandering, dumbing-down, acc...
Fiercely-loyal Laughsome Hospital Keepsake Machete
  11/14/17
Contact between journalists is fine, it's Journolist-style c...
odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman
  11/14/17
cr most of them are overworked and are just pushing as much ...
embarrassed to the bone electric deer antler temple
  11/15/17
most are complete idiots. it's embarrassing that these peopl...
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cerise nubile pozpig
  11/14/17
was reading some balzac the other day and the story was at l...
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This is one reason I'm not pessimistic about the partisanshi...
odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman
  11/14/17
It's also how it historically used to be
Irradiated Casino Mother
  11/14/17
Precisely, and it's pretty much still how the UK is, and the...
odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman
  11/14/17
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  11/15/17
Just stick to the big names: Jeffrey Goldberg, David Rem...
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(((journalists))) are 90 percent jewish in a country that's ...
mahogany cuckold
  11/15/17
Journalists eviscerated itt I'm completely nonplussed at th...
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  11/15/17
I’d add that it’s become a soiled elite female profession wh...
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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:07 PM
Author: cerise nubile pozpig

It's like Reddit.

Lots of 110-120 IQ idiots who are smart enough to cause problems but don't actually understand anything.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34687954)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:27 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy cruise ship friendly grandma

It’s true, they need to be dumb enough to get riled up and blind themselves to the other side’s POV

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688103)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:54 PM
Author: odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman

XO of all places should be aware that high-IQ people are perfectly capable of sitting in a bubble and being willfully blind.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688303)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:59 PM
Author: Sickened Lay Partner

name one reasonable thing xo is blind to/hasn't considered

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688353)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:12 PM
Author: odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman

Wasn't referring to XO itself. But the board is full of people in high-IQ fields (biglaw, tech, finance, etc) who bitch about their work/friend circle being full of closed-minded shitlibs. Shitlibs are very dumb but it isn't simply because they're low IQ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688436)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:13 PM
Author: cerise nubile pozpig

I said "A" major problem, not "The" major problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688438)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:15 PM
Author: odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman

I was referring to beautiful 17-yo's comment about needing to be dumb to get riled up. Even smarts can be deranged shitlibs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688453)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:20 PM
Author: cerise nubile pozpig

<3

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688479)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:28 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy cruise ship friendly grandma

Just meant it helps to be able to dig only so deep into an issue (e.g. understanding economics of restricting immigration and only seeing it as a ‘sooooo mean’ issue)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688545)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 11:42 PM
Author: curious frum athletic conference

that's just spin. they dont go too deep into the economics because almost every time it would hurt their argument.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34689870)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:22 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Laughsome Hospital Keepsake Machete

true, but if those same high-IQ people actually made it their BUSINESS to understand the shit they opine on, they'd have a better track record than that. if they were journalists they'd do a better job than the current crop, though the audience-tailoring and PCness would remain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688496)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:32 PM
Author: odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman

Probably, though I think "general cluelessness" is far from the biggest problem in the industry. That's really only a clear issue at the extreme ends of the profession: Rookies blurring stories on random topics their clueless about, and highly-read "thinker" journalists who cover many topics and routinely write about things they have superficial knowledge of. The core of journalism though is still writers who cover particular beats, and most people who have covered a beat for more than a few years are quite knowledgeable on it. Perhaps not on par with the actual pros, but more so than if you came in off the street to write about the same thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688575)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:37 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Laughsome Hospital Keepsake Machete

good to know. any problems to add to this list?

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&mc=50&forum_id=2#34688590

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688631)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:10 PM
Author: Insanely creepy gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34687978)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:15 PM
Author: chest-beating startling lodge coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688015)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:17 PM
Author: Abnormal slippery orchestra pit

It's more that they are unathletic and lack vigor than anything else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688029)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:19 PM
Author: cerise nubile pozpig

A major problem (one of many) -- not THE major problem.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688039)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:58 PM
Author: Flesh supple french chef

Low energy, but not even in a Jeb Bush way who has just had laziness bred into him after generations of being blue blooded, it's that I've been chubby fat since freshman year of college and at one point wore a shell necklace kind of fat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688344)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:06 PM
Author: twisted shaky church building



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688403)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:18 PM
Author: Passionate Sooty Plaza

high social dominance orientation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688031)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:19 PM
Author: Crawly theater love of her life

journalists will be the first against the wall when I come to power

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688045)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:20 PM
Author: odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688056)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:23 PM
Author: Crawly theater love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688072)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:36 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy cruise ship friendly grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688179)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:59 PM
Author: Sickened Lay Partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688358)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:11 PM
Author: Tan property



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Date: November 15th, 2017 9:06 PM
Author: Territorial Garrison Selfie



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34696702)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:27 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy cruise ship friendly grandma

Charles explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688106)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:53 PM
Author: odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman

It doesn't pay a lot (and is concentrated in expensive cities), the major outlets have declining overall prestige, and if you know enough to cover an industry well you can probably lateral to a higher-paying job in said industry. It's not really surprising that it attracts somewhat dumber people than finance or tech or whatever.

Frankly, the surprising thing is that journalism still does attract some talented people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688293)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:20 PM
Author: cerise nubile pozpig

Also -- attracts ideologically driven people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688484)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:25 PM
Author: odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman

It does, though I don't think that's driving down the field's IQ. If anything, it props it up because strong ideological interest is one of the only things that would push a smart person into the field instead of doing something else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688518)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:26 PM
Author: cerise nubile pozpig

Agree, but at the expense of fatally corrupting it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688528)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:40 PM
Author: odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman

I don't think that's inevitable. Journalism has historically been an ideological field, and it's not incompatible with good reporting. It's only toxic right now because many papers/reporters are being deeply ideological while claiming impartial neutrality (or worse, genuinely thinking they're neutral because of the bubble).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688669)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 11:30 PM
Author: Sickened Lay Partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34689744)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:27 PM
Author: chest-beating startling lodge coffee pot

also blatant dishonesty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688109)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:30 PM
Author: Concupiscible haunting national

Their entire profession is getting their lunches eating by kids with webcams who post on 4chan all day.

That's journalists in 2017, getting pushed into irrelevance by neckbeards in their mother's basement.

A big part of why they're pushing all these conspiracy theories against Trump is because they need a 'big win,' an impeachment, a watergate moment, because they know without one, what vestige of prestige they had is gone and 'journalism' will from here on be equal to 'I'm starting a band, bro.'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688129)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:31 PM
Author: chest-beating startling lodge coffee pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688137)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:32 PM
Author: Crawly theater love of her life



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:33 PM
Author: abusive flirting area



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:03 PM
Author: Pale double fault potus



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Date: November 14th, 2017 10:12 PM
Author: Alcoholic gaped crackhouse



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:59 PM
Author: Boyish clown brunch

It's not entirely their fault. The whole structure of the profession means it's destined to fail. Their job is literally to write stories about shit they just became aware of and don't really understand. Have you ever read a journalist's article on something--a subject or event--you're intimately familiar with? It's terrifying because you're realize if they're that wrong about the things you know about they're probably that wrong about everything. If my job was to write articles on deadlines about shit I didn't know about and had a few days or weeks at best to research I'd be fucking wrong all the time too. The whole thing is a fucking joke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688349)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 8:59 PM
Author: Multi-colored nofapping pit



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:05 PM
Author: chest-beating startling lodge coffee pot



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:06 PM
Author: twisted shaky church building



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:10 PM
Author: cerise nubile pozpig

Fair point in many contexts.

Counterpoint: idiotic political journalists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688430)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 11:29 PM
Author: trip crusty gaping resort



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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:11 PM
Author: mahogany cuckold

“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.

In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.”

&#8213; Michael Crichton

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34693208)



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Date: November 15th, 2017 2:08 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone electric deer antler temple



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Date: November 15th, 2017 9:21 PM
Author: Boyish clown brunch

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34696803)



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Date: November 15th, 2017 9:07 PM
Author: Territorial Garrison Selfie



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:19 PM
Author: aquamarine galvanic chapel people who are hurt

If you ask me, newspaper reporters are created at age six when they first go to school. In the schoolyard boys immediately divide into two types. Immediately! There are those who have the will to be daring and dominate, and those who don’t have it. … But there are boys from the weaker side of the divide who grow up with the same dreams as the stronger … The boy standing before me, John Smith, is one of them. They, too, dream of power, money, fame, and beautiful lovers. Boys like this kid grow up instinctively realizing that language is like … a sword or a gun. Used skillfully, it has the power to … well, not so much achieve things as to tear things down – including people … including the boys who came out on the strong side of the sheerly dividing line. Hey, that’s what liberals are! Ideology? Economics? Social justice? Those are nothing but their prom outfits. Their politics were set for life in the schoolyard at age six. They were the weak, and forever after they resented the strong. That’s why so many journalists are liberals! The very same schoolyard events that pushed them toward the written word … pushed them toward “liberalism.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688478)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:20 PM
Author: cerise nubile pozpig



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:21 PM
Author: Well-lubricated glittery regret institution



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:22 PM
Author: chest-beating startling lodge coffee pot



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Date: November 15th, 2017 11:01 AM
Author: Walnut cracking hunting ground market

mods

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Date: November 15th, 2017 2:09 PM
Author: bistre kitty legal warrant

Was this written by Cernovich or Tyler Durden or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34693609)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:25 PM
Author: umber flatulent alpha bawdyhouse

cop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688523)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:29 PM
Author: Sickened Lay Partner

Think about the mindset of someone who pursues journalism. At best, ideologue who wants to change world. Probably- get thrill from narrative crafting and forcememeing fraud

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3744467&forum_id=2#34299584)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688552)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:33 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Laughsome Hospital Keepsake Machete

other problems: sensationalism, pandering, dumbing-down, accountability to PC norms, and too much contact with other journalists.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688590)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:50 PM
Author: odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman

Contact between journalists is fine, it's Journolist-style collusion that is bad. Also, most of these issues are not new and some aren't even particularly bad right now (sensationalism in particular is a constant). I'd add:

-Heavy content pressure. Journalists need to write more stories these days and that hinders robust reporting (though on the flipside, reporting itself is much easier today with the Internet and all).

-There are fewer editors today, and the ones that exist are editing more stories. This puts a strain on basic fact-checking and increases the odds of fuck-ups.

-Herd mentality. Outlets don't just steal stories from each other, but also wording, framing, etc. It's not a coincidence every publication called Trump's convention speech "dark."

I may think of more later.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688784)



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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:25 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone electric deer antler temple

cr most of them are overworked and are just pushing as much content as possible. editors have become producers. no one line edits anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34693306)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:33 PM
Author: fishy stirring wagecucks

most are complete idiots. it's embarrassing that these people are taken seriously on any level.

Some are cunning and know what they're doing. Too bad these types are almost entirely out to fool people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688593)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 9:34 PM
Author: cerise nubile pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34688604)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 10:36 PM
Author: garnet therapy mad-dog skullcap

was reading some balzac the other day and the story was at least tangentially about a character's interactions with two different presses - one was the press written by what i assume were the liberals, and one was the press written by what i assume were something like monarchists/government (not a historymo). both were more or less equally powerful. this is probably the actual problem with journalism. modern journalism is basically 100% partisan to a single side - that of the existing order/power structure/aristocracy. without a competing press to call journalists' bluff on the delusional shit they write, they have free rein to spout whatever nonsense feels good to them.

the lack of a countervailing press created a strong liberal feedback loop that i hope is starting to slow down given trump's election and breitbart. that said, i could easily see the current media situation as a symptom of the larger, more powerful globalization trend, which can almost only increase at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34689276)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 10:41 PM
Author: spectacular space death wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34689323)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 11:25 PM
Author: odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman

This is one reason I'm not pessimistic about the partisanship of the press. For decades, American media aspired to be "objective," but they were basically taken over by leftists who, as you note, are now also the establishment. So the mainstream press are in many ways simply willing propaganda organs for the dominant elite ideology. A more overtly partisan press, with right-leaning, left-leaning, and third-way outlets (like Reason) could be superior, and would still allow for plenty of real reporting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34689703)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 11:32 PM
Author: Irradiated Casino Mother

It's also how it historically used to be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34689761)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 11:35 PM
Author: odious very tactful shitlib skinny woman

Precisely, and it's pretty much still how the UK is, and the British press is just fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34689796)



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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:59 PM
Author: spectacular space death wish



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34693542)



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Date: November 14th, 2017 11:08 PM
Author: talented yarmulke kitchen

Just stick to the big names:

Jeffrey Goldberg, David Remnick, Charles Blow, etc



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34689579)



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Date: November 15th, 2017 2:18 PM
Author: Stimulating Abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34693663)



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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:12 PM
Author: motley den

FUCK LIBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34693210)



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Date: November 15th, 2017 1:12 PM
Author: mahogany cuckold

(((journalists))) are 90 percent jewish in a country that's still majority christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34693216)



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Date: November 15th, 2017 7:28 PM
Author: Hilarious low-t senate

Journalists eviscerated itt

I'm completely nonplussed at the existence of these bourgeoisie boutique-y professions like journalism which gives me cognitive dissonance as a liberal artist since it's KIND OF my destiny to be an inept liberal haplessly doing liberal arts shit and making $20k/year.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34696076)



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Date: November 15th, 2017 9:31 PM
Author: honey-headed chad

I’d add that it’s become a soiled elite female profession which has crowded out anything other than slime sentience

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3797445&forum_id=2#34696849)