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Tesla might be one of the biggest crash and burn stories ever

Their free cash flow was negative $1.1 billion in the last q...
Excitant elite stead
  11/17/17
Why just concentrate on SpaceX that seems like an even bigge...
Violent cerebral whorehouse sandwich
  11/17/17
They have actually turned a profit and it is clearly his pas...
Excitant elite stead
  11/17/17
“profit” call me when they have less net debt in the end ...
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  11/17/17
I haven't really looked at their numbers. I just read somewh...
Excitant elite stead
  11/17/17
don't forget solar city!
racy roommate
  11/17/17
tesla bought it.
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Now part of Tesla. Their solar roofs are another example of ...
Excitant elite stead
  11/17/17
dirtiest deal in yrs
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  11/17/17
you might turn out to be 100% correct but understand they ar...
Exhilarant submissive bawdyhouse
  11/17/17
Yeah, I do understand this. Tons of people have tried to sho...
Excitant elite stead
  11/17/17
sure, but in his mind it's not a huge gamble. as for the bul...
Exhilarant submissive bawdyhouse
  11/17/17
Amazon received similar criticism in the early days. You can...
Slate Field Azn
  11/17/17
Yeah, he is obviously following Bezo's playbook. Tesla will ...
Excitant elite stead
  11/17/17
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supple jewess
  11/17/17
That expenditure was roughly .001 percent of his current net...
Slate Field Azn
  11/17/17
LOL, that was written by the fabulist Stephen Glass. He prob...
Excitant elite stead
  11/17/17
Holy shit, I didn't even notice.
Slate Field Azn
  11/17/17
calishitlawguru is buds with Stephen glass
Marvelous Pervert
  11/17/17
Did he appear in the acclaimed drama Shattered Glass
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  11/17/17
how much money does he get from subsidies?
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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:17 AM
Author: Excitant elite stead

Their free cash flow was negative $1.1 billion in the last quarter and they forecast an additional $2 billion in capital spending before the year is out. They have produced less than 300 Model 3's and will have negative gross margins on them for years probably because overhead costs will dwarf deliveries before production ramps up. They are producing cool stuff and I want them to maeke it, but holy shit they are burning through cash. Asking for deposits for vehicles that won't be built for years is a pretty desperate cash grab. Musk should just sell the business to Google or Apple and concentrate on SpaceX. Maybe they want to buy and are just waiting for the cash problems to worsen and Musk to get desperate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34709294)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:19 AM
Author: Violent cerebral whorehouse sandwich

Why just concentrate on SpaceX that seems like an even bigger cash burn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34709300)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:22 AM
Author: Excitant elite stead

They have actually turned a profit and it is clearly his passion. It is like a multi-billion dollar nerd hobby business.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34709319)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:23 AM
Author: disturbing hairraiser casino regret

“profit”

call me when they have less net debt in the end of the year than the beginning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34709328)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:29 AM
Author: Excitant elite stead

I haven't really looked at their numbers. I just read somewhere they made a profit, which surprised me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34709355)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:23 AM
Author: racy roommate

don't forget solar city!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34709326)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:23 AM
Author: disturbing hairraiser casino regret

tesla bought it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34709331)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:26 AM
Author: Excitant elite stead

Now part of Tesla. Their solar roofs are another example of Musk's approach. Really cool demo and a good idea, but no capability to deliver anytime soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34709343)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:19 PM
Author: aquamarine titillating associate

dirtiest deal in yrs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34714399)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:23 AM
Author: Exhilarant submissive bawdyhouse

you might turn out to be 100% correct but understand they are burning through cash with the understanding that there are institutional investors who are betting on Musk long term and willing to finance the company well into the future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34709329)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:28 AM
Author: Excitant elite stead

Yeah, I do understand this. Tons of people have tried to short Tesla and lost big. Musk is running a huge gamble that will either turn into an Amazon/Apple style success story or really flame out in grand fashion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34709353)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:34 AM
Author: Exhilarant submissive bawdyhouse

sure, but in his mind it's not a huge gamble. as for the bulls, they definitely see the Amazon/Apple success stories as the rationale behind their bullishness. they are betting on the CEO and his genius which is not limited to technical know-how but also includes marketing smarts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34709390)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:25 AM
Author: Slate Field Azn

Amazon received similar criticism in the early days. You can still find the old articles:

http://www.slate.com/articles/briefing/articles/1997/01/amazoncon.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34709337)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:30 AM
Author: Excitant elite stead

Yeah, he is obviously following Bezo's playbook. Tesla will either be a trillion dollar company that produces the Apple of cars and dominates renewable energy or will be bought for like a dollar by Apple/Google/Facebook/Amazon or an industry competitor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34709359)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:32 AM
Author: supple jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34709377)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:35 AM
Author: Slate Field Azn

That expenditure was roughly .001 percent of his current net worth. It would be like you buying a cookie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34709394)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:34 AM
Author: Excitant elite stead

LOL, that was written by the fabulist Stephen Glass. He probably didn't even order the books.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34709388)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 11:35 AM
Author: Slate Field Azn

Holy shit, I didn't even notice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34709395)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:16 PM
Author: Marvelous Pervert

calishitlawguru is buds with Stephen glass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34714386)



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Date: November 18th, 2017 1:34 PM
Author: histrionic personal credit line institution

Did he appear in the acclaimed drama Shattered Glass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34717518)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:14 PM
Author: 180 business firm antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34714377)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:17 PM
Author: irradiated spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34714389)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:36 PM
Author: Claret effete halford

how much money does he get from subsidies?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34714451)



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Date: November 18th, 2017 12:09 PM
Author: 180 business firm antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34717033)



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Date: November 18th, 2017 2:03 PM
Author: Heady Deep Orchestra Pit Giraffe

Lol at OP referring to negative gross margins because of overhead costs ... overhead costs aren't included in gross margins, dumb fuck. How's your TTT degree treating you in the real world?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800570&forum_id=2#34717695)