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Fun Legal Hypo (4 Jews Chase After $20 Bill) - from Talmud Law Class

moishe, shlomo, dudi and yehuda *were* friends. as the we...
diverse university
  11/17/17
RULING: moishe wins. the rule is that property is acquired b...
diverse university
  01/05/18
moishe because he ended up with it. this hypo reminds me a ...
odious locale regret
  11/17/17
180 for thinking of that. they split the baby in the end? so...
diverse university
  11/17/17
yeah they split the baby.
odious locale regret
  11/17/17
yep, they split the baby
kink-friendly spot
  01/05/18
Lol at Jews practicing the Rule of Capture with currency.
aphrodisiac topaz multi-billionaire doctorate
  11/17/17
...
diverse university
  11/19/17
like capturing land, foot on the note is stake in ground.
transparent juggernaut location
  11/19/17
They are to split it evenly and donate to charity
tan stirring roast beef pocket flask
  11/19/17
lol
transparent juggernaut location
  12/03/17
AIPAC
Autistic Scarlet Senate
  12/03/17
This actually happened that there’s a rule for this? I’m vot...
Talking genital piercing station
  12/03/17
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transparent juggernaut location
  12/03/17
yes this was an actual case.
diverse university
  01/05/18
Yehuda got screwed here, IMO. I'd give it to him.
Buck-toothed Ruddy Rehab Potus
  01/05/18
he got screwed bc he put his foot on it? it's like the baseb...
diverse university
  01/05/18
These “legal” hypos bring significant enlightenment as to wh...
Talking genital piercing station
  01/05/18
...
Lilac Kitty
  01/05/18
call me a dumb goy, but to me it's enough
Buck-toothed Ruddy Rehab Potus
  01/05/18
Because we had a concept of livery of seisin while the Jews ...
Talking genital piercing station
  01/05/18
Traditionally, a thief must not only gain dominion over the ...
Lilac Kitty
  01/05/18
Larceny has a mens rea of intent to deprive. Slightly differ...
Talking genital piercing station
  01/05/18
IMO, ownership contains the right to do nothing with your pr...
Buck-toothed Ruddy Rehab Potus
  01/05/18
...
Obsidian splenetic meetinghouse ceo
  01/05/18
the guy who took it out of moshe's pocket when moshe was for...
High-end Stage
  01/05/18
hmm, I think either shlomo and moishe should share it. obvio...
Dashing gas station trust fund
  01/05/18


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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:00 PM
Author: diverse university

moishe, shlomo, dudi and yehuda *were* friends.

as the were walking home from the yeshiva, moishe commented that he thought he saw money on the other side of a busy street.

shlomo said that he definitely could see it, and it was a 100 shekel note [~$20] and it belonged to him because he saw it first.

dudi ran across the street and was the first person to get within a 6-ft. range of the note, however yehuda was able to put his foot on the note.

moishe quickly snatched the money from under yehuda's foot and put it in his pocket.

who is entitled to the 100 shekels?

NOTE: this actually happened. this isn't a hypo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#34710549)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 3:25 PM
Author: diverse university

RULING: moishe wins. the rule is that property is acquired by moving it in some direction as a symbolic act of the transaction -- up down left right etc. e.g., if someone gives you the keys to a house in a real estate deal, the transaction is finalized when you move the key. one cant acquire property by falling on it. you actually have to move it. yehuda putting his foot on the note didnt acquire it. moishe picking it up is what acquired it. seeing the note is totally irrelevant here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#35089020)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: odious locale regret

moishe because he ended up with it. this hypo reminds me a whole lot of this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popov_v._Hayashi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#34710557)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:06 PM
Author: diverse university

180 for thinking of that. they split the baby in the end? so it was just a ttt CA superior court decision? would have been cool if the CA SCOTUS ruled on this and we had some real scholarship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#34710616)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:07 PM
Author: odious locale regret

yeah they split the baby.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#34710624)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 5:26 PM
Author: kink-friendly spot

yep, they split the baby

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#35089991)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 2:06 PM
Author: aphrodisiac topaz multi-billionaire doctorate

Lol at Jews practicing the Rule of Capture with currency.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#34710609)



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Date: November 19th, 2017 12:22 AM
Author: diverse university



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#34721345)



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Date: November 19th, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: transparent juggernaut location

like capturing land, foot on the note is stake in ground.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#34721371)



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Date: November 19th, 2017 1:10 AM
Author: tan stirring roast beef pocket flask

They are to split it evenly and donate to charity



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#34721568)



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Date: December 3rd, 2017 5:39 AM
Author: transparent juggernaut location

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#34826794)



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Date: December 3rd, 2017 5:54 AM
Author: Autistic Scarlet Senate

AIPAC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#34826806)



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Date: December 3rd, 2017 7:00 AM
Author: Talking genital piercing station

This actually happened that there’s a rule for this? I’m voting for possession by foot with a 10% finders fee to the guy who alerted them all to the presence of the note.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#34826846)



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Date: December 3rd, 2017 7:02 AM
Author: transparent juggernaut location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#34826848)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 3:31 PM
Author: diverse university

yes this was an actual case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#35089056)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Ruddy Rehab Potus

Yehuda got screwed here, IMO. I'd give it to him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#35089046)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 3:31 PM
Author: diverse university

he got screwed bc he put his foot on it? it's like the baseball analogy. if someone puts their foot on a baseball, is that enough? i can see how it's not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#35089055)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Talking genital piercing station

These “legal” hypos bring significant enlightenment as to why Jews have been persecuted and why our profession is a shit profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#35089611)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Lilac Kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#35089635)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:36 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Ruddy Rehab Potus

call me a dumb goy, but to me it's enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#35089627)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Talking genital piercing station

Because we had a concept of livery of seisin while the Jews apparently require you to manipulate the property somehow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#35089734)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: Lilac Kitty

Traditionally, a thief must not only gain dominion over the property, but also must move it from its original position. The slightest movement, a hair's breadth, is sufficient.[23] However, the entirety of the property must be moved. As LaFave noted critically this requirement is the difference between rotating a doughnut (larceny) and rotating a pie (not larceny),[24] as all of the doughnut is moved through rotation while the pie's exact center remains in the same place when rotated. The movement must also be an actual asportation, rather than movement in preparation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#35089800)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 5:05 PM
Author: Talking genital piercing station

Larceny has a mens rea of intent to deprive. Slightly different context.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#35089840)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 5:04 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Ruddy Rehab Potus

IMO, ownership contains the right to do nothing with your property. requiring property to be used is counter to the very idea of property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#35089832)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Obsidian splenetic meetinghouse ceo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#35089643)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 4:52 PM
Author: High-end Stage

the guy who took it out of moshe's pocket when moshe was forced to strip down and head to the shower

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#35089761)



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Date: January 5th, 2018 5:11 PM
Author: Dashing gas station trust fund

hmm, I think either shlomo and moishe should share it. obviously moishe has it and he needs to get it. but shlomo got nothing for spotting the $$$ and not giving anything to schlomo discourages future people from spotting money, which is socially desirable.

remember that this might have never even happened if schlomo didn't see the $$$

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800740&forum_id=2#35089871)