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Explain to me again why a "Flat Tax" is unfair? Thank

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exciting philosopher-king
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exciting philosopher-king
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DAT ability to pay
Tan alcoholic round eye
  11/19/17
High-earners end up paying a disproportionately high amount ...
self-absorbed transparent chad
  11/19/17
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  11/21/17
lol
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soggy native
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FAIR SHARE FAIR SHARE FAIR SHARE
Amethyst Razzmatazz Parlor
  11/19/17
Would be horribly regressive to low income earners.
slap-happy glassy internal respiration
  11/21/17
yeah, no. try again.
pink theater really tough guy
  11/21/17
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exciting philosopher-king
  11/21/17
As compared to the current system, any amount of tax paid wo...
slap-happy glassy internal respiration
  11/21/17
I agree. But why do 46% of Americans pay ZERO federal taxes?
exciting philosopher-king
  11/21/17
Because somebody thought it was a good idea to let non-lando...
slap-happy glassy internal respiration
  11/21/17
It's not like they actually vote anyway.
exciting philosopher-king
  11/21/17
TBF, income taxes brother. Not all federal taxes.
lascivious therapy
  11/21/17
yes... why do 46% of Americans not pay federal income taxes...
exciting philosopher-king
  11/21/17
that's a misuse of the term. when your car slows down you a...
pink theater really tough guy
  11/21/17
I provided a standard shitlib response for entertainment pur...
slap-happy glassy internal respiration
  11/21/17
fair enough on your first point but why bring up a consumpt...
pink theater really tough guy
  11/21/17
It’s communism, you are taking from each as they can.
sinister parlour ceo
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I’d support it. But I always lulz when my libertarian friend...
Purple Unholy Shrine Sneaky Criminal
  11/21/17
"What do you mean college expenses, mortgages, food, ut...
disgusting canary pit corn cake
  11/21/17
no, it wouldn't.
pink theater really tough guy
  11/21/17
lol, just, lol
Purple Unholy Shrine Sneaky Criminal
  11/21/17
(dumbass)
Passionate painfully honest range
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Cracking Offensive Mother
  11/21/17
Google "marginal utility."
Exhilarant coiffed personal credit line hell
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He He Hehehehehehehehhehehehehehhehehehehehehhehehehehehe
exciting philosopher-king
  11/21/17
Lol cr lol at this libertariantard
Obsidian crackhouse
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That assumes that everyone has the same income/wealth utilit...
hairraiser cruise ship wagecucks
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exciting philosopher-king
  11/21/17
Nice to see you going full retard again
Amethyst Razzmatazz Parlor
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Narrow-minded crotch
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Lol cr
Beady-eyed Plaza Trust Fund
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LMAO
Dull indecent alpha
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Utility monster arguments are sps little bro
Beady-eyed Plaza Trust Fund
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I'm not taking it that far. It is entirely plausible, for ex...
hairraiser cruise ship wagecucks
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Dull indecent alpha
  11/21/17
IF you believe in an income tax, THEN that tax should tax la...
duck-like at-the-ready mad-dog skullcap partner
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titmfcr.
Demanding big stage death wish
  11/21/17
Everyone needs skin in the game. Even someone making $20k sh...
Avocado Gunner
  11/21/17
Yeah, that's absurd. Not even worth the time to fill out the...
duck-like at-the-ready mad-dog skullcap partner
  11/21/17
The IRS doesn't look at like 95% of tax forms. It's all comp...
exciting philosopher-king
  11/21/17
It's too easy to spend OPM. Everyone contributes
Avocado Gunner
  11/21/17
What is the benefit of this "everyone contributes"...
duck-like at-the-ready mad-dog skullcap partner
  11/21/17
agency. agency leads to pride. pride leads to ego. ego lead...
pink theater really tough guy
  11/21/17
Do you think today's 30k earners have "agency"? Th...
duck-like at-the-ready mad-dog skullcap partner
  11/21/17
its not unfair but impractical there is no good flat tax ...
costumed aqua police squad
  11/21/17
bullshit the flat tax should apply to corporations, too bu...
pink theater really tough guy
  11/21/17
as you earn more money, it's used less for necessities and m...
light corner quadroon
  11/21/17
But, I want poor people to starve and die.
exciting philosopher-king
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Beady-eyed Plaza Trust Fund
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one mans necessity is another mans vanity. i mean most of wh...
costumed aqua police squad
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Yes, and that's exactly why the middle class is taxed more t...
Beady-eyed Plaza Trust Fund
  11/21/17
Do you see what poors buy? This is not the Congo. Poors are ...
hairraiser cruise ship wagecucks
  11/21/17
Again, if umc guy derives 100 utils from each $100 golf club...
Beady-eyed Plaza Trust Fund
  11/21/17
Our tax system, whether current or proposed, has nothing to ...
hairraiser cruise ship wagecucks
  11/21/17
A strawman exists when I characterize your position weakly s...
Beady-eyed Plaza Trust Fund
  11/21/17
leans into mic what fucks poors, if anything, are the incen...
pink theater really tough guy
  11/21/17
That's fine, but we can just talk about empirical/realized t...
Beady-eyed Plaza Trust Fund
  11/21/17
Taxes should, ideally, reflect a roughly equal burden on all...
Bearded Twinkling Uncleanness Indian Lodge
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What about the bottom that pays nothing and just votes thems...
hairraiser cruise ship wagecucks
  11/21/17
We have lamentably created a welfare state where many pay ef...
Bearded Twinkling Uncleanness Indian Lodge
  11/21/17
Flame jumped the shark here
Amethyst Razzmatazz Parlor
  11/21/17
(With HER)
exciting philosopher-king
  11/21/17
Brother, you seem confused.
Amethyst Razzmatazz Parlor
  11/21/17
Well they should pay something.
Avocado Gunner
  11/21/17
nobody is supporting a welfare state ITT. opposition to flat...
costumed aqua police squad
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My point is if you oppose the flat tax in favour of what we ...
hairraiser cruise ship wagecucks
  11/21/17
there is nothing more equal than a flat tax congratulations...
pink theater really tough guy
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exciting philosopher-king
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light corner quadroon
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i see nothing wrong with crying about the disproportionate s...
Useless electric menage
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I see nothing wrong with crying about the disproportionate ...
Amethyst Razzmatazz Parlor
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As long as there is a rebate/universal basic income, could b...
Kink-friendly irate deer antler address
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as long as there is... spouts bullshit that runs counter to...
pink theater really tough guy
  11/21/17
*gets paid 80k in stock options* One weird trick hehe
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Date: November 17th, 2017 5:25 PM
Author: exciting philosopher-king



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Date: November 19th, 2017 4:32 AM
Author: exciting philosopher-king



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Date: November 19th, 2017 6:14 AM
Author: Tan alcoholic round eye

DAT ability to pay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34722349)



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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:21 AM
Author: self-absorbed transparent chad

High-earners end up paying a disproportionately high amount in absolute terms

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34722379)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 12:12 PM
Author: exciting philosopher-king

LOL

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Date: November 21st, 2017 12:14 PM
Author: Razzle forum selfie

lol

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Date: November 21st, 2017 12:19 PM
Author: Geriatric Odious Black Woman



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Date: November 21st, 2017 1:30 PM
Author: charismatic water buffalo brethren



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Date: November 21st, 2017 8:59 PM
Author: hideous coldplay fan



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:09 PM
Author: cobalt thriller indirect expression spot



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:07 PM
Author: magical red sound barrier senate



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:21 PM
Author: soggy native



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Date: November 19th, 2017 8:45 AM
Author: Amethyst Razzmatazz Parlor

FAIR SHARE FAIR SHARE FAIR SHARE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34722494)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 12:15 PM
Author: slap-happy glassy internal respiration

Would be horribly regressive to low income earners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34739633)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 1:24 PM
Author: pink theater really tough guy

yeah, no. try again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34740165)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 1:40 PM
Author: exciting philosopher-king



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Date: November 21st, 2017 1:59 PM
Author: slap-happy glassy internal respiration

As compared to the current system, any amount of tax paid would necessarily be considered horribly regressive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34740469)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 2:17 PM
Author: exciting philosopher-king

I agree. But why do 46% of Americans pay ZERO federal taxes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34740577)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 2:22 PM
Author: slap-happy glassy internal respiration

Because somebody thought it was a good idea to let non-landowners vote?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34740615)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 2:25 PM
Author: exciting philosopher-king

It's not like they actually vote anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34740645)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 2:22 PM
Author: lascivious therapy

TBF, income taxes brother. Not all federal taxes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34740616)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 2:24 PM
Author: exciting philosopher-king

yes... why do 46% of Americans not pay federal income taxes?

I feel like economic theories are all bullshit fraudlie$.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34740640)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 2:33 PM
Author: pink theater really tough guy

that's a misuse of the term.

when your car slows down you aren't going horribly in reverse

less progressive =/= regressive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34740710)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:12 PM
Author: slap-happy glassy internal respiration

I provided a standard shitlib response for entertainment purposes only.

Notwithstanding the foregoing, the Hall-Rabushka tax would be highly regressive, in part because high-income households tend to consume less of their income than lower-income households and because investment income would not be taxed (or rather double-taxed).



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34741089)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 3:21 PM
Author: pink theater really tough guy

fair enough on your first point

but why bring up a consumption tax when we are talking about income tax? and just because 'tend' exists, a flat tax on consumption is still a flat tax.

investment income should be taxed as income. it is income. that aspect of hall rabushka is fairly considered regressive because it treats different types of income differently, by definition, to the wealthier peoples' benefits



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34741173)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 12:15 PM
Author: sinister parlour ceo

It’s communism, you are taking from each as they can.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34739637)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 12:22 PM
Author: Purple Unholy Shrine Sneaky Criminal

I’d support it. But I always lulz when my libertarian friends making like $100k poast about how great it would be on Facebook. These are dudes with SAHM wives, kids, and mortgages. A flat tax would absolutely fuck them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34739669)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 1:19 PM
Author: disgusting canary pit corn cake

"What do you mean college expenses, mortgages, food, utilities, and car payments are consumption?! How am I supposed to live if I have to pay taxes on all of that?!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34740107)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 1:25 PM
Author: pink theater really tough guy

no, it wouldn't.



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Date: November 21st, 2017 1:40 PM
Author: Purple Unholy Shrine Sneaky Criminal

lol, just, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34740313)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 1:43 PM
Author: Passionate painfully honest range

(dumbass)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34740341)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:26 PM
Author: Cracking Offensive Mother



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Date: November 21st, 2017 1:39 PM
Author: Exhilarant coiffed personal credit line hell

Google "marginal utility."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34740304)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 1:42 PM
Author: exciting philosopher-king

He He Hehehehehehehehhehehehehehhehehehehehehhehehehehehe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34740335)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 2:21 PM
Author: Obsidian crackhouse

Lol cr lol at this libertariantard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34740602)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: hairraiser cruise ship wagecucks

That assumes that everyone has the same income/wealth utility curve. Which is stupid. What happens if higher income earners have a curve which is parallel but shifted up materially higher vs low income earners? Point being we have no way to measure or asses utility curves between people only within one person so you can never use marginal utility to justify a macro policy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34740866)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 8:59 PM
Author: exciting philosopher-king



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:00 PM
Author: Amethyst Razzmatazz Parlor

Nice to see you going full retard again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744380)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:10 PM
Author: Narrow-minded crotch



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:12 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Plaza Trust Fund

Lol cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744442)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:04 PM
Author: Dull indecent alpha

LMAO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744400)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:13 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Plaza Trust Fund

Utility monster arguments are sps little bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744448)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:50 PM
Author: hairraiser cruise ship wagecucks

I'm not taking it that far. It is entirely plausible, for example if taking $200 from a poor just means they can't afford oxy for the next little while vs. taking $200 from a UMC means he isn't gonna enroll his kids in soccer camp.

Let me be clear, I can also formulate many examples going the other way. I just don't like utility arguments like that because unless we are talking about the taking away of basic necessities (we are not) then its a stupid way to approach things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744697)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:03 PM
Author: Dull indecent alpha



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:04 PM
Author: duck-like at-the-ready mad-dog skullcap partner

IF you believe in an income tax, THEN that tax should tax labor.

Gains in earnings for high income individual generally does not come from labor. Too often, these individuals gain income from capital, not labor.

Special interests will never let this happen, but tcr tax plan would be 0% up to $150k, ~20% up to 500k, and ~70% thereafter. This stat doesn't get pushed hard enough, but we could have 95% of this country pay jack shit and just tax the fuck out of the super rich. The idea that $60k earners should spend a week doing taxes to write an $8k check is absurd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744403)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:19 PM
Author: Demanding big stage death wish

titmfcr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744479)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:20 PM
Author: Avocado Gunner

Everyone needs skin in the game. Even someone making $20k should have to pay $100.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744484)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:33 PM
Author: duck-like at-the-ready mad-dog skullcap partner

Yeah, that's absurd. Not even worth the time to fill out the form, have the government look things over, and deal with collections of back taxes.

And just LOL at the logic that not having skin in the game, or the threat of a higher rate, stopping someone from earning more. 10 out of 10 people will choose to earn more and pay more under ANY tax code.

I'm a huge Trumpmo and the plan in my OP is tcr populist solution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744569)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:36 PM
Author: exciting philosopher-king

The IRS doesn't look at like 95% of tax forms. It's all computerized.

That said, I'm purposely being a contrarian faggot in this thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744597)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:45 PM
Author: Avocado Gunner

It's too easy to spend OPM. Everyone contributes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744659)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:02 PM
Author: duck-like at-the-ready mad-dog skullcap partner

What is the benefit of this "everyone contributes" mantra? It's a fucking collosal waste of time for all involved. Are you some sort of sadist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744787)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:18 PM
Author: pink theater really tough guy

agency.

agency leads to pride. pride leads to ego. ego leads to not being worthless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744949)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:21 PM
Author: duck-like at-the-ready mad-dog skullcap partner

Do you think today's 30k earners have "agency"? This is preposterous leap of logic and completely separate from the discussion at hand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744966)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:07 PM
Author: costumed aqua police squad

its not unfair but impractical

there is no good flat tax rate to use unless you are willing to either destroy the federal govt or the poor/lower middle class people

set it too low to not affect the poor/lower middle class and you wont raise enough revenue. set it too high and you are going to make life miserable for people making < 60K or so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744428)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:05 PM
Author: pink theater really tough guy

bullshit

the flat tax should apply to corporations, too

but your assertion is bullshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744812)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:08 PM
Author: light corner quadroon

as you earn more money, it's used less for necessities and more for vanity. It's more of a hardship to take $1 of someone's necessity $ than another's vanity $.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744430)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:09 PM
Author: exciting philosopher-king

But, I want poor people to starve and die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744437)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:14 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Plaza Trust Fund



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:10 PM
Author: costumed aqua police squad

one mans necessity is another mans vanity. i mean most of what XO bros think as normal stuff (vacations, multiple cars, home improvements) would be considered absolute waste by the poor. So I dont believe in this argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744440)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:15 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Plaza Trust Fund

Yes, and that's exactly why the middle class is taxed more than the poor. Everyone gets taxed the same on the first 15k so they can rent a house. If you make 30k, the next 15k is taxed more because you're gonna buy luxuries with it (extra clothes, nicer food).

If you're arguing that middle-class guy X values tshirts more highly than poor guy Y values a house, you're making cgm's argument above, to which the government says I don't care. If rich guy Z values everything more highly than everyone else he doesn't just get everything, because that's not fair. Those are arguments against the utility monster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744457)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:15 PM
Author: hairraiser cruise ship wagecucks

Do you see what poors buy? This is not the Congo. Poors are buying useless shit not necessities.

what you are effectively saying is that there is more "use" for a poor dood to buy a bag of chips every week vs. a UMC dood buying a golf club. I don't see how you can actually confidently say this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744460)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:27 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Plaza Trust Fund

Again, if umc guy derives 100 utils from each $100 golf club and poor guy derives .5 utils from each $1 bag of chips, it would be more efficient for all the poor people to starve and for umc dudes to have 1000 golf clubs each.

But we make sure people have money for food (by taxing lower incomes less) because they need to eat, even if it's not efficient

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744526)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:45 PM
Author: hairraiser cruise ship wagecucks

Our tax system, whether current or proposed, has nothing to do with whether or not poors eat. That is a strawman. Any alternative tax protocol that could realistically be introduced in the US would, at worst, bite into the massive degree of frivolous spending that poors do and not their basic necessities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744660)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:50 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Plaza Trust Fund

A strawman exists when I characterize your position weakly so I can refute it easily. I don't see how I've done that.

And I don't at all see how that would be the case. With a flat marginal rate inequality will widen and disproportionately fuck the poors. I really don't think your obsession with poors buying potato chips is going to lead to an economic revolution. You might consider looking at corporate rents, which is growing faster as a share of the economy than land, capital, labor, etc and is without question a bigger waste of money than laquisha buying a sprite

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744699)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:07 PM
Author: pink theater really tough guy

leans into mic

what fucks poors, if anything, are the incentives and tricks that corporations are permitted to take advantage of to avoid paying full taxes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744838)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:13 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Plaza Trust Fund

That's fine, but we can just talk about empirical/realized tax rates.

If the corporate rate is 35% but corps weasle it to 25%, and the flat tax is 15% with no friction, then the flat tax is still lower.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744907)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:14 PM
Author: Bearded Twinkling Uncleanness Indian Lodge

Taxes should, ideally, reflect a roughly equal burden on all citizens. Taxes on the wealthy should be higher to give them a burden similar to the one felt by middle class taxpayers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744451)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:17 PM
Author: hairraiser cruise ship wagecucks

What about the bottom that pays nothing and just votes themselves goodies? What is their burden.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744469)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:21 PM
Author: Bearded Twinkling Uncleanness Indian Lodge

We have lamentably created a welfare state where many pay effectively nothing. That's a poor argument for creating a flat tax though when America's most damaging social ill is intensifying inequality.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744491)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:34 PM
Author: Amethyst Razzmatazz Parlor

Flame jumped the shark here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744580)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:37 PM
Author: exciting philosopher-king

(With HER)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744603)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:37 PM
Author: Amethyst Razzmatazz Parlor

Brother, you seem confused.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744604)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:22 PM
Author: Avocado Gunner

Well they should pay something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744502)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:24 PM
Author: costumed aqua police squad

nobody is supporting a welfare state ITT. opposition to flat tax doesn't mean we support a welfare state. i think its possible to oppose both

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744509)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:44 PM
Author: hairraiser cruise ship wagecucks

My point is if you oppose the flat tax in favour of what we have now, then you must also face the fact that the current system PROMOTES a welfare state. So yea, you can say your against the welfare state, but if you are shooting down alternatives to the "progressive" tax system which allows poors to never face financial consequences for their voting habits, you are propping up the welfare state, even if that is not your intention.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744643)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:09 PM
Author: pink theater really tough guy

there is nothing more equal than a flat tax

congratulations for making burden a euphemism



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744854)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:20 PM
Author: aphrodisiac bistre sanctuary becky

Chris Rock summed it up best talking about alimony

"if you make 30 million and the bitch want 15, that's fine you ain't starvin. but if you make 30 thousand and the bitch want half, you just might have to kill her!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744487)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:27 PM
Author: exciting philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744530)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:38 PM
Author: Dull indecent alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744605)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:16 PM
Author: light corner quadroon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744936)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:39 PM
Author: Useless electric menage

i see nothing wrong with crying about the disproportionate share of tax paid by the rich without also mentioning the share of income that accrues to the rich

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744615)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:42 PM
Author: Amethyst Razzmatazz Parlor

I see nothing wrong with crying about the disproportionate share of services consumed by the poor without also mentioning the share of taxes paid by the poor

look, I can’t type stupid tripe just like you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744629)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 9:57 PM
Author: Kink-friendly irate deer antler address

As long as there is a rebate/universal basic income, could be workable, though all things in moderation, including simplicity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744748)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:10 PM
Author: pink theater really tough guy

as long as there is...

spouts bullshit that runs counter to the entire point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744867)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:03 PM
Author: duck-like at-the-ready mad-dog skullcap partner

*gets paid 80k in stock options*

One weird trick hehe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34744797)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 10:27 PM
Author: light corner quadroon

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3800962&forum_id=2#34745011)