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Just had phone interview with a gaming company in LA

for senior finance role. base salary is in the "range o...
Up-to-no-good karate
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Red chapel
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was "HR" a bubbly 24 y/o blonde from USC
Supple Shrine
  11/17/17
No idea what she looks like. She sounded older.
Up-to-no-good karate
  11/17/17
hows riot bro
Provocative Lay
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Dashing violent point
  11/17/17
That’s a legit role to be a CFO you actually have to know fi...
Exhilarant Yapping Water Buffalo Digit Ratio
  11/17/17
The group is all ex-bankers, which surprised me.
Up-to-no-good karate
  11/17/17
Irvine isn't LA bro
razzmatazz sickened idiot
  11/17/17
Blizzard?
soul-stirring duck-like sound barrier main people
  11/17/17
No comment
Up-to-no-good karate
  11/17/17
Can you post the pic of you at blizzard headquarters
razzmatazz sickened idiot
  11/17/17
that's OC, Irvine
orange aromatic hall
  11/17/17
Ragnus knows he interviewed there before
razzmatazz sickened idiot
  11/17/17
...
Up-to-no-good karate
  11/17/17
I drove by blizzard headquarters recently They have full on...
razzmatazz sickened idiot
  11/17/17
That’s to keep out orcs
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Bro, I have been stalked in my office after we made a change...
Jet swashbuckling abode knife
  11/22/17
Game of war? How come they stopped buying gazillion ads?
soul-stirring duck-like sound barrier main people
  11/22/17
This was years ago. My understanding is that they switch...
Jet swashbuckling abode knife
  11/22/17
Ohh that’s machine zone too... I guess Mariah Carey worked o...
soul-stirring duck-like sound barrier main people
  11/22/17
I mean, they have a model and they're sticking to it. I wond...
Jet swashbuckling abode knife
  11/22/17
Thoughts on Lineage 2’s marketing strategy?
soul-stirring duck-like sound barrier main people
  11/22/17
It was interesting to see a company go all in on pre-reg lik...
Jet swashbuckling abode knife
  11/22/17
a friend of mine used to work for them and said relations wi...
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  12/05/17
If it's Scopely stay away...
bonkers pisswyrm cruise ship
  11/18/17
not scopely
Up-to-no-good karate
  11/20/17
2nd round phone next week
Up-to-no-good karate
  11/21/17
good luck ib bro? this sounds like an awesome role
cerebral house ratface
  11/21/17
good luck. FP&A? what's your previous experience
splenetic wild wrinkle genital piercing
  11/22/17
No, it's not FP&A. I'm doing finance at a FAANG tech fir...
Up-to-no-good karate
  11/22/17
why are you leaving? was asking because work bro is inter...
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I'm not aggressively looking but open to opportunities. ...
Up-to-no-good karate
  11/22/17
yeah finance in my experience needs to know the entire busin...
splenetic wild wrinkle genital piercing
  11/22/17
Correct. I'm in like every meeting with product, content, ma...
Up-to-no-good karate
  11/22/17
Hie thee to operations if this bothers you. Finance in compa...
Jet swashbuckling abode knife
  11/22/17
yeah, I should've done investment banking, where finance cal...
Up-to-no-good karate
  11/22/17
You can make the transition, but it'll probably take a bit o...
Jet swashbuckling abode knife
  11/22/17
to IB? how the fuck?
splenetic wild wrinkle genital piercing
  11/22/17
No, to operations from a finance role in a company.
Jet swashbuckling abode knife
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Pay and working conditions will depend massively on which co...
Jet swashbuckling abode knife
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Doesn't Activision own Blizzard? Yeah, this role doesn't ...
Up-to-no-good karate
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Yeah, but Bobby is relatively hands off so long as they hit ...
Jet swashbuckling abode knife
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Thanks. This is super helpful. Does one have to be a har...
Up-to-no-good karate
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Not required but it really helps at Blizz. Required at Ri...
Jet swashbuckling abode knife
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Wow. This is really good to know. Yeah, that's my biggest co...
Up-to-no-good karate
  11/22/17
spin, ratfucks
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You probably won't be stuck, but you also probably won't hav...
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Definitely don’t be an aspie gamer freak..
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;)
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I'd have to know the title, the company and the year he join...
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Director? I mean, impossible to tell without more info. ...
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indecent domesticated plaza idea he suggested
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Eh...that seems like it'd be on the high end unless stock ha...
Jet swashbuckling abode knife
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HR told me during our call that this position will have a ba...
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You suck at negotiating
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curious to know your strategy and whether it has worked. i ...
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I tell them to make an offer that properly values what they ...
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are you pretty sought after? what kind of benefits do you c...
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When I interview, it's generally for C-suite for startups an...
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What's like the highest comp package you've been offered? Lo...
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how does riot do comp since they are owned by tencent and he...
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Yeah, they've been implementing new plans around this recent...
Jet swashbuckling abode knife
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Safe to say that working for one of these companies carries ...
Up-to-no-good karate
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LOL
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Riot is reasonably sexy in LA, but nothing like working in t...
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Do you have a throwaway e-mail account where I can reach out...
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knavexoxohth@gmail.com I don't check it much though. Thi...
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I e-mailed you.
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Sent you a response late last night
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Those companies (FB, GOOG) really aren't prestigious around ...
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Dropbox is still prestigious as fuck and pay better than eve...
Up-to-no-good karate
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Everyone knows Dropbox is a down round destination, perks al...
bonkers pisswyrm cruise ship
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BULLSHIT. Dropbox is gonna go public in 2018, and their acro...
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Will never have an IPO at a valuation higher than their last...
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JUST INTERVIEWED AT A GAMING COMPANYYY!!!! ... for a non-tec...
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(Grandma’s boy troll)
Dashing violent point
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not a lawyer
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Up-to-no-good karate
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i heard working at activision sucks
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Date: November 17th, 2017 6:17 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

for senior finance role. base salary is in the "range of $130-$200K" according to HR. huge range. the job doesn't sound too interesting though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34712668)



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Date: December 5th, 2017 1:54 PM
Author: Red chapel

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3758205&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34845176)



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Date: December 5th, 2017 1:54 PM
Author: Red chapel

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3758205&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34845177)



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Date: December 5th, 2017 1:54 PM
Author: Red chapel

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3758205&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34845178)



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Date: December 5th, 2017 1:54 PM
Author: Red chapel

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3758205&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34845179)



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Date: December 5th, 2017 1:54 PM
Author: Red chapel

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3758205&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34845180)



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Date: December 5th, 2017 1:54 PM
Author: Red chapel

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3758205&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34845182)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 6:38 PM
Author: Supple Shrine

was "HR" a bubbly 24 y/o blonde from USC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34712807)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 7:40 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

No idea what she looks like. She sounded older.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34713242)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 6:38 PM
Author: Provocative Lay

hows riot bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34712816)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 6:48 PM
Author: Dashing violent point



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34712893)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 6:47 PM
Author: Exhilarant Yapping Water Buffalo Digit Ratio

That’s a legit role to be a CFO you actually have to know finance and accounting

Not like working in a back office compliance role at a hedge fund

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34712890)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 7:40 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

The group is all ex-bankers, which surprised me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34713247)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 7:41 PM
Author: razzmatazz sickened idiot

Irvine isn't LA bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34713250)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 7:41 PM
Author: soul-stirring duck-like sound barrier main people

Blizzard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34713251)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:50 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

No comment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34714507)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:52 PM
Author: razzmatazz sickened idiot

Can you post the pic of you at blizzard headquarters

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34714516)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:53 PM
Author: orange aromatic hall

that's OC, Irvine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34714519)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:54 PM
Author: razzmatazz sickened idiot

Ragnus knows he interviewed there before

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34714524)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 9:05 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34713765)



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Date: November 17th, 2017 10:54 PM
Author: razzmatazz sickened idiot

I drove by blizzard headquarters recently

They have full on gates and guards for the parking lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34714525)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:10 AM
Author: Electric Fortuitous Meteor

That’s to keep out orcs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745715)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:13 AM
Author: alcoholic marvelous mad cow disease library



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745734)



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Date: November 29th, 2017 4:43 PM
Author: vivacious translucent potus gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34800064)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

Bro, I have been stalked in my office after we made a change to one of our games. I can only imagine how many insane fans blizz gets from WoW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745744)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:24 AM
Author: soul-stirring duck-like sound barrier main people

Game of war?

How come they stopped buying gazillion ads?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745793)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:27 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

This was years ago.

My understanding is that they switched to marketing that new Final Fantasy game. I imagine the roi on spend was higher if click throughs with the brand were better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745811)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:18 AM
Author: soul-stirring duck-like sound barrier main people

Ohh that’s machine zone too... I guess Mariah Carey worked out well now they getting Alexis Ren.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34746069)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:21 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

I mean, they have a model and they're sticking to it. I wonder how well this game will do. There's a lot of weird stuff happening in mobile right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34746080)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:24 AM
Author: soul-stirring duck-like sound barrier main people

Thoughts on Lineage 2’s marketing strategy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34746090)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:26 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

It was interesting to see a company go all in on pre-reg like that. Very unusual.

In general, I'm very skeptical about paying influencers to talk about your game. It essentially operates as an admission to the marketplace that your game doesn't have content that is independently worth talking about.

That said, I've started playing it a bit and it isn't half bad compared to other claimants to the MMORPG throne.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34746104)



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Date: December 5th, 2017 1:53 PM
Author: Cracking fear-inspiring institution keepsake machete

a friend of mine used to work for them and said relations with fans were remarkably chill compared to the RPG publisher he worked for before that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34845172)



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Date: November 18th, 2017 12:04 PM
Author: bonkers pisswyrm cruise ship

If it's Scopely stay away...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34717008)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:29 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

not scopely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34733102)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 11:28 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

2nd round phone next week

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745463)



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Date: November 21st, 2017 11:55 PM
Author: cerebral house ratface

good luck

ib bro? this sounds like an awesome role

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745620)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:03 AM
Author: splenetic wild wrinkle genital piercing

good luck. FP&A? what's your previous experience

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745676)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:09 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

No, it's not FP&A. I'm doing finance at a FAANG tech firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745714)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:15 AM
Author: splenetic wild wrinkle genital piercing

why are you leaving?

was asking because work bro is interviewing for fp&a director role at activision.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745741)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:19 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

I'm not aggressively looking but open to opportunities.

Several reasons:

1. I don't find the work that interesting. Finance at a FAANG is basically second-class citizens, since it's the engineers and product managers who are driving the actual strategy. I'm a hardcore finance geek who loves modeling, valuation, and research, and the job is more "controllership" and holding the hands of various business groups.

2. I really hate the city I currently live in.

3. My comp is OK, but it could be better, and I'm not satisfied.

What's your friend's background like?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745763)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:25 AM
Author: splenetic wild wrinkle genital piercing

yeah finance in my experience needs to know the entire business but decisions rarely originate from there.

can't say because doobs but we're at one of the only employers worth their salt in LA. he's a finance manager.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745797)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:28 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

Correct. I'm in like every meeting with product, content, marketing, accounting, and have to deal with their shit but have little power over actual strategy and direction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745817)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:31 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

Hie thee to operations if this bothers you. Finance in companies is often just viewed as a cost savings unit similar to lawyers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745838)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:32 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

yeah, I should've done investment banking, where finance calls the shots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745846)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:35 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

You can make the transition, but it'll probably take a bit of doing at the right firm. I'd look for a post-A startup.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745865)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:39 AM
Author: splenetic wild wrinkle genital piercing

to IB? how the fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745884)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:40 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

No, to operations from a finance role in a company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745893)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:07 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

Pay and working conditions will depend massively on which company and which role.

Blizz is a mess right now on the finance side. Been cleaning it up for some time.

Riot in major transition, but still a good place to work if you want to join the cult.

Activision is a ruthless heart of darkness but the best run company (from a business perspective) in games by far. Bobby is probably one of the best deal makers alive.

But yeah, none of this is going to be super interesting unless they have you in strategic modeling on the game side.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745704)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:09 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

Doesn't Activision own Blizzard?

Yeah, this role doesn't seem interesting. HR said it's product finance, which to me is total BS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745712)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:11 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

Yeah, but Bobby is relatively hands off so long as they hit numbers. Frank and Mike have run the shop for forever and the culture reflects their sensibilities rather than ATVI's. Completely different companies -- ATVI is like a rehash of Proctor and Gamble but for games (pure brand management) whereas Blizz is a true developer.

I'd want to know way more about the role before I make any decisions. In general, you want to be as close to game operations as humanly possible if you want upside in a game company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745719)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:17 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

Thanks. This is super helpful.

Does one have to be a hardcore gamer to enjoy working at these firms? I'm not a gamer, so worried about being surrounded by aspie gaming freaks.

Also, what are exit opps like?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745755)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:22 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

Not required but it really helps at Blizz.

Required at Riot. They check pretty much everyone's LoL account before they make a hire. If you don't play they view it as a pretty strong sign you aren't a culture fit. Even for roles like finance (though obviously less so than things directly touching a game).

ATVI doesn't give a fuck -- Bobby doesn't play games and doesn't really enjoy them. ATVI is staffed out with a bunch of hardcore brand operators from P&G.

In general, the people at the tops of these companies are reasonably well adjusted humans that are really fucking smart. I know most of them to some extent and I like interacting with them. The hyper aspieness is more common at the middle and bottom portions of the company and they generally stick to themselves.

Exit ops are worse than other businesses of equivalent size. Games are insular, though they're becoming significantly less so. I'd generally not suggest going into games unless you have some underlying desire to be in them. You learn a bunch of hyper idiosyncratic stuff that just doesn't travel super well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745781)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:24 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

Wow. This is really good to know. Yeah, that's my biggest concern with working at a gaming firm; it's super niche, and I imagine the type of finance I would do is not something that's easily transferable. My concern, despite the fact that I love LA, is that I will be "stuck" in gaming, which is not a spot I want to be in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745789)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:26 AM
Author: Unholy forum

spin, ratfucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745801)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:29 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

You probably won't be stuck, but you also probably won't have invested the years very well unless this position is materially better than anything you can get elsewhere.

So, if this would bump you up two titles and no one else is offering the same, then go for it. Otherwise, I'd just take some extra caution.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745828)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:22 AM
Author: soul-stirring duck-like sound barrier main people

Definitely don’t be an aspie gamer freak..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745783)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:23 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

;)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745786)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:23 AM
Author: indecent domesticated plaza idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745785)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:25 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

I'd have to know the title, the company and the year he joined to give a decent estimate.

For example, the last two years have been a great time to be at EA with the stock lurching forward. Base comp is lower but the stock makes up for it.

Comp at riot is decent but the gravy train has largely left the station after Tencent completed the acquisition.

ATVI is known to underpay. Kotick runs a very tight ship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745799)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:29 AM
Author: indecent domesticated plaza idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745831)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:32 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

Director? I mean, impossible to tell without more info.

I can make up a big number so you feel terrible about yourself though. :D

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745848)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:35 AM
Author: indecent domesticated plaza idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745864)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:36 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

Eh...that seems like it'd be on the high end unless stock has been going gangbusters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745872)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:32 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

HR told me during our call that this position will have a base between $100 and $200K. I was like, "uh that's a pretty big range," and she said that it will depend on the person. I told her straight up that a minimum base for me is $130K but that I'm more comfortable in the $140-$150K range.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745842)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:33 AM
Author: At-the-ready well-lubricated psychic dingle berry

You suck at negotiating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745852)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:34 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

I think you pick a number you think you are worth and stick by it until proven otherwise. I also don't get deep into salary until they're offering me a job -- generally have a lot more leverage then.

It's hard for me to comment on salary negotiations since I use a super unorthodox strategy on this stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745859)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:36 AM
Author: indecent domesticated plaza idea he suggested

curious to know your strategy and whether it has worked. i always cave then they ask what i make, how much i expect, current comp plan, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745869)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:37 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

I tell them to make an offer that properly values what they expect me to do with the company.

Then, regardless of whatever the first offer is, I say: "Not close."

EDIT: When asked why, I say they either don't expect me to do much, or they hope I'll do what they want me to do but don't want to value it correctly. Either way, they'll have to do better.

EDIT2: I have also countered with:

"More."

"Of what?"

"Everything."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745878)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:43 AM
Author: indecent domesticated plaza idea he suggested

are you pretty sought after? what kind of benefits do you currently have now that you got through this kind of negotiation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745912)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:52 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

When I interview, it's generally for C-suite for startups and VP/SVP for public companies. I've been using this as my approach since I was director level.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745960)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:01 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

What's like the highest comp package you've been offered? Looking for numbers, not the actual company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34746004)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:08 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34746033)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:41 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

how does riot do comp since they are owned by tencent and hence no stock awards?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745900)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:42 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

Yeah, they've been implementing new plans around this recently. I haven't gotten a clear answer on it -- I think it might be a profit sharing pool but I really don't know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745909)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:43 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

Safe to say that working for one of these companies carries no social prestige or status in LA? Nothing like working at Google/FB in silicon valley or an elite finance firm in NYC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745917)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:44 AM
Author: At-the-ready well-lubricated psychic dingle berry

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745921)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:48 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

Riot is reasonably sexy in LA, but nothing like working in the entertainment industry.

When I left movies for games when I was down in LA people looked at me like I was fucking insane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745936)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:01 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

Do you have a throwaway e-mail account where I can reach out? No big deal if you're not comfortable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34746001)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:10 AM
Author: Jet swashbuckling abode knife

knavexoxohth@gmail.com

I don't check it much though. This is my first time back on xo in about a month.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34746036)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:44 AM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

I e-mailed you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34746162)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:38 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

Sent you a response late last night

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34749043)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:43 PM
Author: bonkers pisswyrm cruise ship

Those companies (FB, GOOG) really aren't prestigious around here anymore. IMO, most of the next tier of companies that had potential to become prestigious have generally flamed out (Dropbox is LOL and Uber is toxic to have on your resume). Looking back, the smart move was to go to slightly more under the radar companies that became unicorns, it's how I'm getting my $$$.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34749627)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:46 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

Dropbox is still prestigious as fuck and pay better than even Google and FB.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34749657)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: bonkers pisswyrm cruise ship

Everyone knows Dropbox is a down round destination, perks already cut, early employees and a lot of talent already vested out and gone, and not much equity pool to get new talent in except for people who are desperate. They missed their window, if you live in SV you know this as fact.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34749702)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:52 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

BULLSHIT. Dropbox is gonna go public in 2018, and their across the board comp is amongst the highest out there. What's your information source? I have several friends who work there, both in tech and business strategy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34749735)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:57 PM
Author: bonkers pisswyrm cruise ship

Will never have an IPO at a valuation higher than their last funding round, and anyone who thinks otherwise can just look at Box's market cap (competitor w/ better enterprise product). IT at my last two companies killed Dropbox either in favor of using Google Drive w/in GSuite or switching to Box.

https://venturebeat.com/2017/09/09/can-unicorn-dropbox-avoid-a-down-round-ipo/

Perks being cut:

http://www.businessinsider.com/cost-cutting-at-dropbox-and-silicon-valley-startups-2016-5

I'm not going to Google all this shit for you dude. It's well known, DropBox missed their window. The people who made out on it are early employees who sold their shares to later investors.

Slack, Atlassian and Okta, in descending order, are far more desirable than Dropbox.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34749779)



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Date: November 29th, 2017 4:40 PM
Author: dead claret cuck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34800037)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:31 AM
Author: At-the-ready well-lubricated psychic dingle berry

JUST INTERVIEWED AT A GAMING COMPANYYY!!!! ... for a non-tech job

Dude gaming is the worse place to be in tech. Maybe it’s worth it if you LOVE GAMING, but as a lawyer obviously you’ll be far from any game engineering. You can probably land something more legit in SV

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34745837)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: Dashing violent point

(Grandma’s boy troll)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34746059)



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Date: November 30th, 2017 5:45 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

not a lawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34808566)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:22 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34748870)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:25 PM
Author: histrionic hospital

ITT: Disillusioned JJC in Seattle is moving jobs again, xoxo poasters oblivious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34749490)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 4:50 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34763568)



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Date: November 28th, 2017 8:03 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34793287)



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Date: November 29th, 2017 4:41 PM
Author: Vigorous frum masturbator property

i have a cousin (by marriage, don't know him very well) who works for Bethesda and has been on the design teams for some really big games, like the Fallout series. I think he had a hand in coming up with the concept. There are some others he designed but I can't remember what.

he went to some ttt law school in CA but opted to go into this field.

i really wonder what he makes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34800051)



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Date: December 5th, 2017 1:55 PM
Author: concupiscible goal in life gay wizard

no wonder bethesda games are dogshit they're hiring lawyers to code

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34845183)



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Date: December 5th, 2017 3:03 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34845731)



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Date: November 29th, 2017 4:42 PM
Author: Misanthropic theatre

i heard working at activision sucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34800061)



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Date: December 5th, 2017 1:50 PM
Author: Up-to-no-good karate

not activision

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3801023&forum_id=2#34845148)