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Pace JD ($$) v Fordham
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:44 AM Author: Brindle Mind-boggling Twinkling Uncleanness So I know a guy whose set on going to LS (who isn't capable of being talked out of it). He got a full ride at Pace. Is looking at some money (I think less than half tuition) at Cardozo and BLS. But has gotten sticker at Fordham.
He says he is basically is looking at either Pace or Fordham. Asking me whether I think Fordham is worth it.
He wants to work for like whatever law firm pays six figures. He isn't looking for anything special he says. Just a decent job in law.
Anyone know about the outcomes of TTTs/probability/things this guy can do to increase his chances?
He's thinking of going into IP litigation as he has a science undergrad degree (he went to undergrad with me but he didn't get good grades). Anyone know about this? He says its easier to get than other areas of law and that he doesn't need to go to a 'super great' law school to get in.
I know a post like this is begging for bashing/flame calling/etc but for the legitimate interest I have in answering this guy honestly try to post serious replies or at least be creative.
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:44 AM Author: cerise office SUP BREJ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722401) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:44 AM Author: Brindle Mind-boggling Twinkling Uncleanness whats up man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722402) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:45 AM Author: cerise office what're u thinking on advising this brehj? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722404) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:48 AM Author: Brindle Mind-boggling Twinkling Uncleanness probably Pace. because if he's jobless at the end of it at least he just had to pay living expenses.
i'm not a law guy so i don't know too much about this. but it seems like if its free there isn't too much risk. the guy isn't going to be breaking six figures otherwise. he's working as a research assistant making like $30k |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:48 AM Author: cerise office brej don't they put the top 10% all in the same section and make them compete to KEEP DAT SCHOLARSHIP? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722409) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:50 AM Author: Brindle Mind-boggling Twinkling Uncleanness i think he has to maintain a 3.0 to keep the scholarship. he says that if he gets less than that he'll drop out after the 1st year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722412) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:55 AM Author: cerise office idk man idk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722418) |
Date: November 19th, 2017 7:58 AM Author: sable aromatic coldplay fan codepig Has he asked the other schools to up the scholly money? If he decides on Fordham he should at least do the "I am really interested but Pace gave me a full ride and BLS 1/2 ride. What can u do?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722423) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 8:12 AM Author: Brindle Mind-boggling Twinkling Uncleanness i'll ask. at what point does it become worthwhile to go for fordham over a full ride at pace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722438) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 9:37 AM Author: burgundy school cafeteria Almost never.
What is his science degree? |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 9:39 AM Author: Brindle Mind-boggling Twinkling Uncleanness Biology. Under what circumstances would sticker at Fordham be worth it over a full ride at Pace? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722623) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 9:45 AM Author: burgundy school cafeteria Figured. That’s too bad. Prosecution is probably out which would be a 180 back up.
Fordham makes sense if your parents are rich or you have something to fall back on.
Thing is, he’ll be outmatched at Fordham. It’s the best school he got into, right? Which means he’s up against people who took full rides there but got into better schools. And you need to be in the top echelon to get a good job from Fordham. At pace, he’s the one eyed man in the land of the blind. He might crush it and get biglaw but even if he doesn’t, his debt is minimal and he’ll do far better than 30k. Shit, doc review 6 months a year pays better than that.
He’s a fool if he doesn’t go to Pace. never thought I’d type those words but it’s true. |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 10:00 AM Author: Brindle Mind-boggling Twinkling Uncleanness thanks for the first real reply. yeah its the best school hes gotten into so far. he also wants to stay in NYC so he's limited to schools in the N.East.
that's kind of what i figured with the full ride at pace being a fairly low risk choice. a BS in bio with a low GPA isn't that marketable. realistically unless he goes back to school for a whole different set of skills he's looking at probably becoming a teacher or some kind of $30-50k crappy business/academic gig.
"Thing is, he’ll be outmatched at Fordham" - I wonder, how different are say the top 1-5% of the class at a shitty school like Pace compared to say Fordham's top 10-15%. |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 10:02 AM Author: burgundy school cafeteria I know a guy who transferred to my T6 from a pace-like school. He said that everyone other than him and one other guy were all slobbering retards. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722672) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 10:18 AM Author: Brindle Mind-boggling Twinkling Uncleanness lol at slobbering retards - pace seems more and more like the way to go (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722711) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 10:29 AM Author: Titillating Spot Dingle Berry its a different time, but i went to law school during the boom. my fordham classmates all had 160's on LSAT. i had a 169 but terrible grades in a difficult engineering major so had to settle on fordham. I found it pretty easy to get into top 1/3 of class which guaranteed me biglaw at the time. Even the fordham people seemed like slobbering retards.
Can't imagine what going up against 150's would feel like. Nowadays fordham is probably full of 150's. |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 10:43 AM Author: Brindle Mind-boggling Twinkling Uncleanness How do you define slobbering retards - like people who study but just can’t really get concepts? How low does this bar go -in say relation to community college stupid?My buddy was the kind of guy who’d slack off and just cram before tests. We went to a hard undergrad so his method probably would’ve gotten decent grades at a shitty UG. He doesn’t have much discipline so I’m not sure how that factors into studying in law school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722823) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 10:21 AM Author: sable aromatic coldplay fan codepig Go to Pace. I would consider Cardozo or BLS at line 3/4, which he can try for if he disclosed his Pace offer to them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722718) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 8:13 AM Author: heady psychic heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722440) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 8:32 AM Author: Alcoholic Dull Giraffe Tattoo He’s not getting a six figure job out of pace and he’s probably not getting one out of Fordham. Also, it’s not 2011 anymore, Science background won’t save him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722471) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 9:06 AM Author: Brindle Mind-boggling Twinkling Uncleanness when i told him about the small probability of getting 6 fig he sent me a bunch of linkedins where pace grads were getting big firm jobs.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/z-tajani
this was one |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 9:11 AM Author: claret buck-toothed kitchen He’s not terribly bright it seems (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722552) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 9:15 AM Author: Brindle Mind-boggling Twinkling Uncleanness he's not terribly bright for sure. this is one of his schemes to break out of barely breaking the poverty line. he makes like $30k (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722568) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 9:31 AM Author: claret buck-toothed kitchen He should go to pace with $$$ but drop out if he loses his scholarship. His likely outcome is better than 30k. He’ll need to live cheaply to avoid building up to much loan debt for living costs. It’s not a terrible bet. Fordham at sticker could and likely would ruin him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722614) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 8:43 AM Author: Motley flickering athletic conference law school is 180. love it. incredible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722493) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 8:47 AM Author: exhilarant thirsty menage dragon your friend deserves poverty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722498) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 9:03 AM Author: Brindle Mind-boggling Twinkling Uncleanness hes already poor so i guess this his attempt to change his outcome (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722535) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 9:11 AM Author: exhilarant thirsty menage dragon show him this thread and tell him that his low IQ brain is the reason he's forever poor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722553) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 9:40 AM Author: mewling tan trailer park international law enforcement agency Make sure he doesn’t go into debt for Fordham. He should go to pace and play up the science thing the entire time. If he’s good at job searching and gets a bit lucky he can find a job. There’s hundred and hundreds of firms in nyc and not all are vault firms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722628) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 10:21 AM Author: Brindle Mind-boggling Twinkling Uncleanness how much of the science thing matters? esp if its just a BS in biology? apparently this makes him eligible to take the exam to become a patent agent which he is planning on doing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722717) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 10:38 AM Author: Titillating Spot Dingle Berry not very much.
in life sciences, (i.e. anda/biologics litigation/prosecution) they ant Ph.D. in these fields.
in EE/CS its still pretty easy to find a job even with a pace degree. |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 10:49 AM Author: Brindle Mind-boggling Twinkling Uncleanness Does the prestige/quality of the science degree matter? Would a TTT Biology PhD beat out a BS from a top school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722866) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 9:59 AM Author: balding mint jew stage Pace has many kyoooties, at least its undergrad does (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722665) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 10:18 AM Author: Brindle Mind-boggling Twinkling Uncleanness the law school is apparently in westchester while i think the main campus is NYC or something like that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802353&forum_id=2#34722712) |