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Flame aside, is t14 law school worth it for the average polisci shithead?
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:20 PM Author: vengeful exhilarant half-breed library seems like job market is shittttt for polisci bros (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725869) |
Date: November 19th, 2017 7:25 PM Author: curious black kitty Cheaper route is do a 1 year masters in accounting then go big4. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725913) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:31 PM Author: Ebony piazza internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725970) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:31 PM Author: Wild rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725974) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:38 PM Author: very tactful school cafeteria by a mile. would do this in a heartbeat over t14. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726032) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:39 PM Author: vengeful exhilarant half-breed library i have a friend who did accounting and big 4 and he was fucking miserable. made shit money too. like 45k in a big city (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726049) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:40 PM Author: Disrespectful resort like anything. it ain't what it used to be. and even then it sucked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726059) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:41 PM Author: very tactful school cafeteria accounting has an actual trajectory though and youre competing with way dumber people. you have actual job mobility and can move into industry in a way that you really cant in law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726071) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:42 PM Author: Disrespectful resort is automation going to pwn this profession? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726082) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:44 PM Author: very tactful school cafeteria not any more than anything else (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726095) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:48 PM Author: Wild rehab CR - there are LOTS of jerbs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726141) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:43 PM Author: bearded mad cow disease school cr, lmao at you low T fgts touting ACCOUTNING as a career (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726083) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:47 PM Author: comical deep area jap cr! last time I checked this was an ALPHA law board for LAWYERS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726125) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:47 PM Author: vengeful exhilarant half-breed library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726130) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:49 PM Author: very tactful school cafeteria theres no getting ahead quick in corporate america these days. we were only touting it as a strictly superior option to law school. youll literally be starting your third year of work when ls students are taking the fucking bar. law school is way too long and way too expensive for a couple years of biglaw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726154) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 1:31 PM Author: curious black kitty With a masters, entry level tax in big4 is prob around $70k. A little less for audit.
Masters at stttate U costs something like $30k and only takes 1 year as opposed to 3 for law school at $200k.
That's a swing of over $300k plus 2 years of career advancement. |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:46 PM Author: yellow wagecucks Then diaf from boredom (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726122) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 1:32 PM Author: curious black kitty depends. If doing audit or straight tax compliance. Yeah it's awful. If you get into a niche consulting group far less so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731818) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:40 PM Author: 180 indirect expression garrison LOL @ you thinking you'll just slide into a CFO position by the age of 35. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731276) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:43 PM Author: comical deep area jap xo career advice is about as good as its fitness advice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731290) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 1:34 PM Author: curious black kitty When did I say that?
35 y/o big4 Manager/Senior Manager or if star, Director is making nice money with no student debt and is very marketable. |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 11:52 PM Author: buff bearded chapel Enjoy spending 10 years turning spreadsheets and powerpoints to make what a 1st-year associate makes. A person with 100% LS debt and Biglaw catches up to and passes the accountants by age 30.
The only benefit to accounting is that you can always find a decent job in the field at a decent salary in any market. In law you can strike out completely coming out of school, or get layoff-pwned early in your career and fall all the way to shitlaw, or need to move to another city and not be able to find anything comparable. But there are always more spreadsheets waiting for you at a dead-end job in Duluth. |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:28 PM Author: Lascivious Twisted Stain Community Account if you went into poli sci (esp at a non-top ug) you're already fucked for life so you might as well beats journalism at least |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:32 PM Author: bearded mad cow disease school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725979) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:45 PM Author: vengeful exhilarant half-breed library cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726106) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:52 PM Author: cerise shaky business firm sort of cr but iq will get them through...that being said most of these brehs/chicks are retarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726175) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:30 PM Author: orchid odious site main people MPA/MPP is better bet imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725955) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:31 PM Author: Lascivious Twisted Stain Community Account what do you even do with those degrees? I always thought they were just useless resume fluff for rich shrews (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725966) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:43 PM Author: very tactful school cafeteria dear god no. wtf are you talking about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726085) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:44 PM Author: vengeful exhilarant half-breed library cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726097) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:51 PM Author: cerise shaky business firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726168) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 11:54 PM Author: misanthropic floppy gay wizard tanning salon anything other than princeton is almost non-funded humanities MA level flame, except MPP students harbor the illusion of feeling justified because their degrees are "practical" (?)
perhaps not coincidentally, the xo grad board's biggest business used to be MPP admissions. |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:30 PM Author: excitant ladyboy sanctuary No (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725959) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:30 PM Author: Aromatic hairy legs Yes. Ls is cr only for pssh's (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725963) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:31 PM Author: Ebony piazza internal respiration BSCS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725972) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:33 PM Author: citrine narrow-minded bawdyhouse *T5 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725988) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 9:51 PM Author: pontificating boiling water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34727215) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:33 PM Author: comical deep area jap I think a lot of them go into UG expecting to go to LS after (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725990) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:34 PM Author: Histrionic Regret Base no, go to ocs, get injured, win va injured vet contracts for companies that front you as a board member for kickbacks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725996) |
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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:38 AM Author: big ruddy corner keepsake machete Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34737814) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:39 PM Author: very tactful school cafeteria no. accounting maybe. computers if you can. pa/male nursing. or become a cop or join the military. this is not fucking flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726044) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:40 PM Author: vengeful exhilarant half-breed library loled @ male nursing. seems chill but lmao. prole and no $ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726063) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:42 PM Author: very tactful school cafeteria yeah i wouldnt do it either but if youre a sensative chad it could be cr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726079) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:44 PM Author: vengeful exhilarant half-breed library seems like youd work with a ton of hot female nurses
but "work" would be changing boomer's diapers |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 11:54 PM Author: fragrant center "no $" nigga, nurses make fuckin BANK on dat OT tip |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:51 PM Author: Erotic Contagious Factory Reset Button I went to a T10 and had a "good" outcome (biglaw -> solo, probably will make $225k this year) and hate being a lawyer. Running my own business is 180 and I'd never go back to a firm, but to be happy "practicing law" requires a very specific type of personality. If you have it, then it's not a bad outcome for a polisci shithead.
Not sure why people are suggesting accounting though. That is one of the few white collar jobs that I think would be worse and more soul sucking than law. |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 8:11 PM Author: very tactful school cafeteria when did you graduate? thats relevant too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726373) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:54 PM Author: comical deep area jap COMPLIANTS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726194) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:57 PM Author: bearded mad cow disease school not for the avg person, no, but for the smart ones that can knock out a few years of biglaw then 300k 9-5 in house, yes
only applies to non-autists which is why most of xo fails |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:58 PM Author: Disrespectful resort do you have to be a good schmoozer to do well in law? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726231) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:59 PM Author: bearded mad cow disease school no, you just have to not be a complete arm flapping autist
the schmoozers become rainmakers |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 9:54 PM Author: Amber den Yeah everyone I know in biglaw is the exact opposite of an autist - attractive, alpha, and 180 all around. Most xoers aren't nearly alpha enough for biglaw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34727229) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 10:23 PM Author: Wild rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34727535) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 10:50 AM Author: bearded mad cow disease school (logic master man ) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34730354) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 10:50 AM Author: Amber den (Alpha biller) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34730361) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 8:01 PM Author: comical deep area jap lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726273) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:17 AM Author: vengeful exhilarant half-breed library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34729774) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 10:18 PM Author: pontificating boiling water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34727486) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:27 PM Author: comical deep area jap Law school is 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731127) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:29 PM Author: naked mentally impaired voyeur lawyers are the #1 profession for prescription drug abuse, depression, and alcoholism.
But yeah you'll make good money |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:30 PM Author: comical deep area jap There's a lot more self-selection going on than you think. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731156) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:33 PM Author: vengeful exhilarant half-breed library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731190) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:36 PM Author: naked mentally impaired voyeur entering LS students actually score above average for their cohort on mental health markers. LS destroys people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731225) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:38 PM Author: vengeful exhilarant half-breed library (unemployed GW Law grad) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731245) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:52 PM Author: stimulating chocolate gaping philosopher-king At this point I don’t think any law school is worth paying full price for. Loans and interest will eat up almost the first three years of your after-tax income, even assuming best case scenario.
If you have no particular interest in law (like most people in law school who wind up there through inertia), I would only recommend if you can get into T5 school and leverage that into a significant scholly at a lower T14. If you can go to Duke/UVA/NW, pay off your loans in Year 1 of biglaw, then start banking and make an earlier exit, that’s a pretty good result, especially given that law school can be a three year vacation.
Even that scenario realies on a lot of assumptions, however, main one being you do passably 1L and aren’t a weirdo, such that you are reasonably likely to get some v100 job. |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:54 PM Author: comical deep area jap in your opinion what % of people going to LS have an actual interest in law? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731379) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:58 PM Author: glassy theater 15%
Edit to clarify after reading below: 15% have interest in "the law" - this includes "international immigration human rights humanitarian law" like Amal Clooney and also the uptight conservative bros who wear blue blazers to class and argue with the conlaw prof. I agree with the 75% estimate below if you also include people who just want office jobs and are there as a job queue without some deep interest in being lawyers. |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 1:00 PM Author: stimulating chocolate gaping philosopher-king With an interest in their own idealized and incorrect vision of what practicing law is like? 75%, with intensity of interest varying.
There are a hardcore few who know what it is like through family or previous work, and for some reason have a genuine clear-eyed interest, and those are probably five percent or less. |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 1:24 PM Author: naked mentally impaired voyeur cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731723) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:56 PM Author: beady-eyed tank native acct masters--> big 4--> mba--> ib or consulting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731400) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 1:00 PM Author: Exciting at-the-ready death wish lol accountants make like 60k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731448) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 1:35 PM Author: startling snowy milk What’s your LSAT? If over 1500, sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731860) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 11:33 PM Author: pontificating boiling water You can cop CCN with a 166 and a 3.8.
So yes |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 11:55 PM Author: dun rigpig athletic conference not if you pay sticker. sticker is $300K at 7.5% interest. you won't breakeven in biglaw until your 6th year, and that's if you eat ramen and have roommates. by then you'll be in your mid 30's and have ruined any ability to have a family or normal life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34736663) |
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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:27 AM Author: comical deep area jap What do you mean by break even (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34737784) |