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Flame aside, is t14 law school worth it for the average polisci shithead?
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:20 PM Author: Glittery Weed Whacker seems like job market is shittttt for polisci bros (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725869) |
Date: November 19th, 2017 7:25 PM Author: Mentally impaired aromatic parlour giraffe Cheaper route is do a 1 year masters in accounting then go big4. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725913) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:31 PM Author: rusted territorial state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725970) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:31 PM Author: out-of-control feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725974) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:38 PM Author: frozen faggotry by a mile. would do this in a heartbeat over t14. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726032) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:39 PM Author: Glittery Weed Whacker i have a friend who did accounting and big 4 and he was fucking miserable. made shit money too. like 45k in a big city (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726049) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:40 PM Author: Violet 180 sneaky criminal persian like anything. it ain't what it used to be. and even then it sucked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726059) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:41 PM Author: frozen faggotry accounting has an actual trajectory though and youre competing with way dumber people. you have actual job mobility and can move into industry in a way that you really cant in law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726071) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:42 PM Author: Violet 180 sneaky criminal persian is automation going to pwn this profession? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726082) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:44 PM Author: frozen faggotry not any more than anything else (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726095) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:48 PM Author: out-of-control feces CR - there are LOTS of jerbs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726141) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:43 PM Author: vibrant nowag point cr, lmao at you low T fgts touting ACCOUTNING as a career (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726083) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:47 PM Author: odious piazza jewess cr! last time I checked this was an ALPHA law board for LAWYERS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726125) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:47 PM Author: Glittery Weed Whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726130) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:49 PM Author: frozen faggotry theres no getting ahead quick in corporate america these days. we were only touting it as a strictly superior option to law school. youll literally be starting your third year of work when ls students are taking the fucking bar. law school is way too long and way too expensive for a couple years of biglaw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726154) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 1:31 PM Author: Mentally impaired aromatic parlour giraffe With a masters, entry level tax in big4 is prob around $70k. A little less for audit.
Masters at stttate U costs something like $30k and only takes 1 year as opposed to 3 for law school at $200k.
That's a swing of over $300k plus 2 years of career advancement. |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:46 PM Author: Wine Casino Marketing Idea Then diaf from boredom (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726122) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 1:32 PM Author: Mentally impaired aromatic parlour giraffe depends. If doing audit or straight tax compliance. Yeah it's awful. If you get into a niche consulting group far less so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731818) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:40 PM Author: chestnut adventurous temple LOL @ you thinking you'll just slide into a CFO position by the age of 35. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731276) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:43 PM Author: odious piazza jewess xo career advice is about as good as its fitness advice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731290) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 1:34 PM Author: Mentally impaired aromatic parlour giraffe When did I say that?
35 y/o big4 Manager/Senior Manager or if star, Director is making nice money with no student debt and is very marketable. |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 11:52 PM Author: Stirring garnet goal in life Enjoy spending 10 years turning spreadsheets and powerpoints to make what a 1st-year associate makes. A person with 100% LS debt and Biglaw catches up to and passes the accountants by age 30.
The only benefit to accounting is that you can always find a decent job in the field at a decent salary in any market. In law you can strike out completely coming out of school, or get layoff-pwned early in your career and fall all the way to shitlaw, or need to move to another city and not be able to find anything comparable. But there are always more spreadsheets waiting for you at a dead-end job in Duluth. |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:28 PM Author: Vivacious Milk People Who Are Hurt if you went into poli sci (esp at a non-top ug) you're already fucked for life so you might as well beats journalism at least |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:32 PM Author: vibrant nowag point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725979) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:45 PM Author: Glittery Weed Whacker cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726106) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:52 PM Author: Transparent learning disabled mad cow disease voyeur sort of cr but iq will get them through...that being said most of these brehs/chicks are retarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726175) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:30 PM Author: heady native antidepressant drug MPA/MPP is better bet imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725955) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:31 PM Author: Vivacious Milk People Who Are Hurt what do you even do with those degrees? I always thought they were just useless resume fluff for rich shrews (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725966) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:43 PM Author: frozen faggotry dear god no. wtf are you talking about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726085) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:44 PM Author: Glittery Weed Whacker cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726097) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:51 PM Author: Transparent learning disabled mad cow disease voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726168) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 11:54 PM Author: Hateful razzle jap anything other than princeton is almost non-funded humanities MA level flame, except MPP students harbor the illusion of feeling justified because their degrees are "practical" (?)
perhaps not coincidentally, the xo grad board's biggest business used to be MPP admissions. |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:30 PM Author: know-it-all boistinker lodge No (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725959) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:30 PM Author: Hairraiser fighting mood associate Yes. Ls is cr only for pssh's (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725963) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:31 PM Author: rusted territorial state BSCS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725972) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:33 PM Author: Impertinent big-titted garrison place of business *T5 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725988) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 9:51 PM Author: sooty half-breed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34727215) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:33 PM Author: odious piazza jewess I think a lot of them go into UG expecting to go to LS after (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725990) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:34 PM Author: Bateful Abusive Church Building Gay Wizard no, go to ocs, get injured, win va injured vet contracts for companies that front you as a board member for kickbacks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34725996) |
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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:38 AM Author: talented party of the first part step-uncle's house Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34737814) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:39 PM Author: frozen faggotry no. accounting maybe. computers if you can. pa/male nursing. or become a cop or join the military. this is not fucking flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726044) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:40 PM Author: Glittery Weed Whacker loled @ male nursing. seems chill but lmao. prole and no $ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726063) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:42 PM Author: frozen faggotry yeah i wouldnt do it either but if youre a sensative chad it could be cr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726079) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:44 PM Author: Glittery Weed Whacker seems like youd work with a ton of hot female nurses
but "work" would be changing boomer's diapers |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 11:54 PM Author: Nubile Potus "no $" nigga, nurses make fuckin BANK on dat OT tip |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:51 PM Author: high-end plum university rigor I went to a T10 and had a "good" outcome (biglaw -> solo, probably will make $225k this year) and hate being a lawyer. Running my own business is 180 and I'd never go back to a firm, but to be happy "practicing law" requires a very specific type of personality. If you have it, then it's not a bad outcome for a polisci shithead.
Not sure why people are suggesting accounting though. That is one of the few white collar jobs that I think would be worse and more soul sucking than law. |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 8:11 PM Author: frozen faggotry when did you graduate? thats relevant too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726373) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:54 PM Author: odious piazza jewess COMPLIANTS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726194) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:57 PM Author: vibrant nowag point not for the avg person, no, but for the smart ones that can knock out a few years of biglaw then 300k 9-5 in house, yes
only applies to non-autists which is why most of xo fails |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:58 PM Author: Violet 180 sneaky criminal persian do you have to be a good schmoozer to do well in law? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726231) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 7:59 PM Author: vibrant nowag point no, you just have to not be a complete arm flapping autist
the schmoozers become rainmakers |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 9:54 PM Author: Bonkers Karate Yeah everyone I know in biglaw is the exact opposite of an autist - attractive, alpha, and 180 all around. Most xoers aren't nearly alpha enough for biglaw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34727229) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 10:23 PM Author: out-of-control feces (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34727535) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 10:50 AM Author: vibrant nowag point (logic master man ) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34730354) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 10:50 AM Author: Bonkers Karate (Alpha biller) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34730361) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 8:01 PM Author: odious piazza jewess lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34726273) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:17 AM Author: Glittery Weed Whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34729774) |
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Date: November 19th, 2017 10:18 PM Author: sooty half-breed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34727486) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:27 PM Author: odious piazza jewess Law school is 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731127) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:29 PM Author: Milky Fluffy Bawdyhouse Tank lawyers are the #1 profession for prescription drug abuse, depression, and alcoholism.
But yeah you'll make good money |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:30 PM Author: odious piazza jewess There's a lot more self-selection going on than you think. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731156) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:33 PM Author: Glittery Weed Whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731190) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:36 PM Author: Milky Fluffy Bawdyhouse Tank entering LS students actually score above average for their cohort on mental health markers. LS destroys people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731225) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:38 PM Author: Glittery Weed Whacker (unemployed GW Law grad) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731245) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:52 PM Author: Titillating sepia location At this point I don’t think any law school is worth paying full price for. Loans and interest will eat up almost the first three years of your after-tax income, even assuming best case scenario.
If you have no particular interest in law (like most people in law school who wind up there through inertia), I would only recommend if you can get into T5 school and leverage that into a significant scholly at a lower T14. If you can go to Duke/UVA/NW, pay off your loans in Year 1 of biglaw, then start banking and make an earlier exit, that’s a pretty good result, especially given that law school can be a three year vacation.
Even that scenario realies on a lot of assumptions, however, main one being you do passably 1L and aren’t a weirdo, such that you are reasonably likely to get some v100 job. |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:54 PM Author: odious piazza jewess in your opinion what % of people going to LS have an actual interest in law? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731379) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:58 PM Author: rose pungent spot 15%
Edit to clarify after reading below: 15% have interest in "the law" - this includes "international immigration human rights humanitarian law" like Amal Clooney and also the uptight conservative bros who wear blue blazers to class and argue with the conlaw prof. I agree with the 75% estimate below if you also include people who just want office jobs and are there as a job queue without some deep interest in being lawyers. |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 1:00 PM Author: Titillating sepia location With an interest in their own idealized and incorrect vision of what practicing law is like? 75%, with intensity of interest varying.
There are a hardcore few who know what it is like through family or previous work, and for some reason have a genuine clear-eyed interest, and those are probably five percent or less. |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 1:24 PM Author: Milky Fluffy Bawdyhouse Tank cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731723) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 12:56 PM Author: swollen exhilarant degenerate space acct masters--> big 4--> mba--> ib or consulting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731400) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 1:00 PM Author: flatulent genital piercing boiling water lol accountants make like 60k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731448) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 1:35 PM Author: translucent exciting theater stage mental disorder What’s your LSAT? If over 1500, sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34731860) |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 11:33 PM Author: sooty half-breed You can cop CCN with a 166 and a 3.8.
So yes |
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Date: November 20th, 2017 11:55 PM Author: insanely creepy big macaca not if you pay sticker. sticker is $300K at 7.5% interest. you won't breakeven in biglaw until your 6th year, and that's if you eat ramen and have roommates. by then you'll be in your mid 30's and have ruined any ability to have a family or normal life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34736663) |
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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:27 AM Author: odious piazza jewess What do you mean by break even (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3802813&forum_id=2#34737784) |