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Ambulances are peak GC.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/ambul...
Motley feces
  11/20/17
Introducing Syr'n: The Uber of ambulances
pale station
  11/20/17
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Razzle-dazzle violent house
  11/20/17
I got a $1200 bill from the city for a 1.5 mile trip. Threw ...
Soul-stirring Dull Codepig Cruise Ship
  11/20/17
theyll fuck your credit eventually.
chestnut stead regret
  11/20/17
depends on state, i believe.
trip dog poop macaca
  11/20/17
in what state can an unpaid medical bill sent to collections...
chestnut stead regret
  11/20/17
Ohio
pale station
  11/20/17
you need a judgment post-lawsuit to report it?
chestnut stead regret
  11/20/17
i have no problem with a few hundred bucks for an ambulance ...
trip dog poop macaca
  11/20/17
ive said many times. why dont doctors need to disclose fees ...
chestnut stead regret
  11/20/17
Insurers negotiate on your behalf.
Soul-stirring Dull Codepig Cruise Ship
  11/20/17
do you really believe this low iq generic babble?
chestnut stead regret
  11/20/17
and what if i'm out of network or paying cash?
trip dog poop macaca
  11/20/17
100% agree. I fractured my leg a few years ago and my o...
trip dog poop macaca
  11/20/17
exactly. also, there's no cost/benefit analysis involved. do...
chestnut stead regret
  11/20/17
Look at this horseshit: http://www.omlaw.com/azapp-blog/p...
Fear-inspiring lay
  11/20/17
"An ambulance ain't got shit on me." -firetruck ...
Fragrant legend
  11/20/17
this is a libertarian wet dream
Soul-stirring Dull Codepig Cruise Ship
  11/20/17
cr
Fragrant legend
  11/20/17
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Razzle-dazzle violent house
  11/20/17
*libertarian blows down your burning door with a shotgun* ...
excitant site faggotry
  11/20/17
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Marvelous awkward fat ankles
  11/20/17
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Arousing pink set legal warrant
  11/20/17
The Fairchilds' bill for $27,989.12 was itemized with hourly...
Razzle-dazzle violent house
  11/20/17
Lawyers cucked by $1,700/hour rate.
Motley feces
  11/20/17
america sucks now
Arousing pink set legal warrant
  11/20/17
yeah but his taxes went down
Fragrant legend
  11/20/17
eh its much more complicated than that. has little do with l...
Razzle-dazzle violent house
  11/20/17
ESBC spokesman Rob Blackford confirmed to ABCNews.com that h...
Razzle-dazzle violent house
  11/20/17
Blackford said his company would never go after homeowners i...
Razzle-dazzle violent house
  11/20/17
I thought that's what we pay taxes for?
talented point
  11/20/17
Think again!
Fear-inspiring lay
  11/20/17
I remember a story not too long ago where firemen just watch...
Provocative Whorehouse
  11/20/17
I was out riding bikes with some ppl a few months back, and ...
galvanic abusive senate
  11/20/17
You think that's bad? My law school torts professor said her...
Provocative Whorehouse
  11/20/17
" no one had waived his right to refuse ambulance trans...
aquamarine internet-worthy stage
  11/20/17
Tbf, if we did this with cops, we could eliminate them entir...
embarrassed to the bone plaza fanboi
  11/20/17
low iq schtick? how many traffic tickets are the result of s...
chestnut stead regret
  11/20/17
I've taken a couple low-money medical debt cases like these,...
Fear-inspiring lay
  11/20/17
Wife’s cousin worked for a “transport company” that was an a...
Garnet Bipolar Hospital
  11/20/17
If I could make a good living doing it, I'd happily fight wi...
Fear-inspiring lay
  11/20/17
Yep, and often you dont consent to those around you calling ...
startling church
  11/20/17
How much would it cost to buy an ambulance to shuttle boomer...
Crystalline Hell
  11/20/17
guy who lives in a first world country here, sup
Spruce curious laser beams
  11/20/17


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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:28 PM
Author: Motley feces

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/ambulance-trips-can-leave-you-with-surprising--and-very-expensive--bills/2017/11/17/6be9280e-c313-11e7-84bc-5e285c7f4512_story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733092)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:29 PM
Author: pale station

Introducing Syr'n: The Uber of ambulances

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733098)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:38 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle violent house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733190)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:30 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Dull Codepig Cruise Ship

I got a $1200 bill from the city for a 1.5 mile trip. Threw it in the trash and never looked into it further.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733113)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:42 PM
Author: chestnut stead regret

theyll fuck your credit eventually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733219)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:51 PM
Author: trip dog poop macaca

depends on state, i believe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733294)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: chestnut stead regret

in what state can an unpaid medical bill sent to collections not be reported to your credit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733312)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:58 PM
Author: pale station

Ohio

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733348)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:59 PM
Author: chestnut stead regret

you need a judgment post-lawsuit to report it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733354)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: trip dog poop macaca

i have no problem with a few hundred bucks for an ambulance (want to discourage using them when they're not necessary), but it's absolutely ridiculous that they can charge you $10k for one hour of two $75k/year paramedics in a van.

this is just a subset of the general problem of surprise medical billing, which extends to things like getting an out-of-network anesthesiologist even though your surgeon was in-network and he chose the anesthesiologist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733163)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:37 PM
Author: chestnut stead regret

ive said many times. why dont doctors need to disclose fees on advance like lawyers do? the whole med profession is a fruad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733180)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:38 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Dull Codepig Cruise Ship

Insurers negotiate on your behalf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733187)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:42 PM
Author: chestnut stead regret

do you really believe this low iq generic babble?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733217)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:42 PM
Author: trip dog poop macaca

and what if i'm out of network or paying cash?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733222)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:45 PM
Author: trip dog poop macaca

100% agree.

I fractured my leg a few years ago and my orthopedic surgeon prescribed me a knee brace that he said i didn't really need. when i asked the guy in his office how much it would cost (in case my insurance refused to cover it), he refused to give me a #.

it ended up being like $80, but the insane part is i could imagine it being anywhere from like $50 to $5000 because there's no fucking relationship between the cost of the product/service and the price charged.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733248)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: chestnut stead regret

exactly. also, there's no cost/benefit analysis involved. doctor orders 500 tests to cover his ass to rule out random shit. no cost disclosed to you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733265)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:09 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring lay

Look at this horseshit:

http://www.omlaw.com/azapp-blog/postings/2007/thursday-august-16-2007/

Under Arizona law, the chargemaster (which is full of made up fees that don't have to be approved by anyone) is deemed incorporated into the conditions of admission, even when no specific reference is made to them. Besides, virtually no patient would be able to interpret the gibberish even if it were explicit.

(By the way, as is usual in Arizona, when an appellate judge goes to the trouble of writing a dissent, as here, the dissent is typically right.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735604)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:38 PM
Author: Fragrant legend

"An ambulance ain't got shit on me." -firetruck

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/fire-department-bills-basic-services-horrify-residents-insurance/story?id=9736696

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733189)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:39 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Dull Codepig Cruise Ship

this is a libertarian wet dream

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733193)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Fragrant legend

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733202)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle violent house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733206)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:57 PM
Author: excitant site faggotry

*libertarian blows down your burning door with a shotgun*

"I'M GONNA HAVE TO GET THE FEE UPFRONT. ALSO HAVE YOU READ ATLAS SHRUGGED?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733343)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:45 PM
Author: Marvelous awkward fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34734225)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:41 PM
Author: Arousing pink set legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733213)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:42 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle violent house

The Fairchilds' bill for $27,989.12 was itemized with hourly rates for the use of fire trucks, hoses and the firefighters' time, even a case of drinking water for firefighters who got thirsty. The total for five hours of fire personnel on the scene totaled more than $8,500. The use of the fire trucks cost more than $12,300.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733215)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:43 PM
Author: Motley feces

Lawyers cucked by $1,700/hour rate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733226)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:43 PM
Author: Arousing pink set legal warrant

america sucks now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733228)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:43 PM
Author: Fragrant legend

yeah but his taxes went down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733230)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:44 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle violent house

eh its much more complicated than that. has little do with libertarianism and all to do with GC shenanigans. read the article.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733235)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:43 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle violent house

ESBC spokesman Rob Blackford confirmed to ABCNews.com that his company ignores the state recommendation, saying the federal Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act, or CERCLA, allows fire departments to charge what they see fit in exchange for mitigating the environmental impact of an accident or fire.

"I don't care what the fire marshal says at all," Blackford said. "The insurance companies owe this."

He confirmed that the Fairchilds' insurance company was refusing to pay the $28,000 bill and that ESBC would be pursuing the charges in court.

"Every time you have one of these fires, it's an environmental disaster," Blackford said. "Should we make the person who is responsible for the problem pay or should we raise your taxes and my taxes?"

He, instead, blamed insurance companies that collect premiums from their customers, then refuse to pay when called upon.

"I think that's criminal. It's embezzlement," Blackford said. "They're taking the premiums and not paying the claims."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733231)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:44 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle violent house

Blackford said his company would never go after homeowners if their insurance company refused to pay, but Zarich said they've heard an increasing number of horror stories about accident and fire victims being harrassed for payment.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733241)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:46 PM
Author: talented point

I thought that's what we pay taxes for?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733257)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:14 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring lay

Think again!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735634)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:43 PM
Author: Provocative Whorehouse

I remember a story not too long ago where firemen just watched a home burn with dogs inside because the people didn't pay their fire bill in an unincorporated part of San Diego county. They literally stood there and watched it burn down. Dogs died.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34734210)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:46 PM
Author: galvanic abusive senate

I was out riding bikes with some ppl a few months back, and this older (probably mid-60s, but looks older) primary-care physician who's with us crashes his bike and breaks his arm. He gets up immediately after and then passes out and hits his head.

When he comes around, his biggest concern, I shit you not, is making sure that no one had waived his right to refuse ambulance transport while he was unconscious.

Not trying to be some buckwild lib here, but I thought that was kind of a sad observation on our healthcare system.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733253)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:45 PM
Author: Provocative Whorehouse

You think that's bad? My law school torts professor said her brother is a doctor and when he got injured he started screaming not to take him to the hospital, whatever they do, just don't take him to any hospital.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34734222)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:14 PM
Author: aquamarine internet-worthy stage

" no one had waived his right to refuse ambulance transport while he was unconscious."

waht does this even mean

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735635)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:54 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone plaza fanboi

Tbf, if we did this with cops, we could eliminate them entirely since no one will pay for domestic disturbance calls and traffic tickets which is 95% of their job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34734296)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 7:36 PM
Author: chestnut stead regret

low iq schtick? how many traffic tickets are the result of someone calling the cops to report a traffic violation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735044)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:19 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring lay

I've taken a couple low-money medical debt cases like these, and have won every time with big fee awards in my favor (relative to the underlying debt).

The cases are usually prosecuted by shitlawyers who can't be bothered to properly work up the case, so you end up winning on shit like business records problems and inability to document assignments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735667)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:20 PM
Author: Garnet Bipolar Hospital

Wife’s cousin worked for a “transport company” that was an ambulance service. They’d mainly transport olds and Poors too and from doctors visits. Since Medicaid or Medicare was paying, the old and poors would sometimes get the ambulance guys to take them to the grocery store etc. lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735675)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:21 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring lay

If I could make a good living doing it, I'd happily fight with shithead hospitals and ambulance companies all day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735691)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:23 PM
Author: startling church

Yep, and often you dont consent to those around you calling them on your behalf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735705)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:29 PM
Author: Crystalline Hell

How much would it cost to buy an ambulance to shuttle boomers around in for $8k a ride?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735756)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:31 PM
Author: Spruce curious laser beams

guy who lives in a first world country here, sup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735771)