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Ambulances are peak GC.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/ambul...
boyish maroon reading party weed whacker
  11/20/17
Introducing Syr'n: The Uber of ambulances
slate low-t gaping senate
  11/20/17
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opaque rehab
  11/20/17
I got a $1200 bill from the city for a 1.5 mile trip. Threw ...
Translucent Rigor
  11/20/17
theyll fuck your credit eventually.
Arrogant Old Irish Cottage
  11/20/17
depends on state, i believe.
Grizzly Dilemma Prole
  11/20/17
in what state can an unpaid medical bill sent to collections...
Arrogant Old Irish Cottage
  11/20/17
Ohio
slate low-t gaping senate
  11/20/17
you need a judgment post-lawsuit to report it?
Arrogant Old Irish Cottage
  11/20/17
i have no problem with a few hundred bucks for an ambulance ...
Grizzly Dilemma Prole
  11/20/17
ive said many times. why dont doctors need to disclose fees ...
Arrogant Old Irish Cottage
  11/20/17
Insurers negotiate on your behalf.
Translucent Rigor
  11/20/17
do you really believe this low iq generic babble?
Arrogant Old Irish Cottage
  11/20/17
and what if i'm out of network or paying cash?
Grizzly Dilemma Prole
  11/20/17
100% agree. I fractured my leg a few years ago and my o...
Grizzly Dilemma Prole
  11/20/17
exactly. also, there's no cost/benefit analysis involved. do...
Arrogant Old Irish Cottage
  11/20/17
Look at this horseshit: http://www.omlaw.com/azapp-blog/p...
sexy institution faggot firefighter
  11/20/17
"An ambulance ain't got shit on me." -firetruck ...
Racy emerald death wish trailer park
  11/20/17
this is a libertarian wet dream
Translucent Rigor
  11/20/17
cr
Racy emerald death wish trailer park
  11/20/17
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opaque rehab
  11/20/17
*libertarian blows down your burning door with a shotgun* ...
bat-shit-crazy curious meetinghouse dopamine
  11/20/17
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Onyx immigrant
  11/20/17
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Iridescent appetizing double fault laser beams
  11/20/17
The Fairchilds' bill for $27,989.12 was itemized with hourly...
opaque rehab
  11/20/17
Lawyers cucked by $1,700/hour rate.
boyish maroon reading party weed whacker
  11/20/17
america sucks now
Iridescent appetizing double fault laser beams
  11/20/17
yeah but his taxes went down
Racy emerald death wish trailer park
  11/20/17
eh its much more complicated than that. has little do with l...
opaque rehab
  11/20/17
ESBC spokesman Rob Blackford confirmed to ABCNews.com that h...
opaque rehab
  11/20/17
Blackford said his company would never go after homeowners i...
opaque rehab
  11/20/17
I thought that's what we pay taxes for?
mahogany exciting ceo corner
  11/20/17
Think again!
sexy institution faggot firefighter
  11/20/17
I remember a story not too long ago where firemen just watch...
Puce comical macaca
  11/20/17
I was out riding bikes with some ppl a few months back, and ...
Carmine motley friendly grandma
  11/20/17
You think that's bad? My law school torts professor said her...
Puce comical macaca
  11/20/17
" no one had waived his right to refuse ambulance trans...
Unholy really tough guy library
  11/20/17
Tbf, if we did this with cops, we could eliminate them entir...
Sapphire kitchen trust fund
  11/20/17
low iq schtick? how many traffic tickets are the result of s...
Arrogant Old Irish Cottage
  11/20/17
I've taken a couple low-money medical debt cases like these,...
sexy institution faggot firefighter
  11/20/17
Wife’s cousin worked for a “transport company” that was an a...
Nubile multi-colored space
  11/20/17
If I could make a good living doing it, I'd happily fight wi...
sexy institution faggot firefighter
  11/20/17
Yep, and often you dont consent to those around you calling ...
Turquoise theater stage
  11/20/17
How much would it cost to buy an ambulance to shuttle boomer...
Indigo Spectacular Hell
  11/20/17
guy who lives in a first world country here, sup
cheese-eating university water buffalo
  11/20/17


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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:28 PM
Author: boyish maroon reading party weed whacker

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/ambulance-trips-can-leave-you-with-surprising--and-very-expensive--bills/2017/11/17/6be9280e-c313-11e7-84bc-5e285c7f4512_story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733092)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:29 PM
Author: slate low-t gaping senate

Introducing Syr'n: The Uber of ambulances

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733098)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:38 PM
Author: opaque rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733190)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:30 PM
Author: Translucent Rigor

I got a $1200 bill from the city for a 1.5 mile trip. Threw it in the trash and never looked into it further.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733113)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:42 PM
Author: Arrogant Old Irish Cottage

theyll fuck your credit eventually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733219)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:51 PM
Author: Grizzly Dilemma Prole

depends on state, i believe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733294)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:55 PM
Author: Arrogant Old Irish Cottage

in what state can an unpaid medical bill sent to collections not be reported to your credit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733312)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:58 PM
Author: slate low-t gaping senate

Ohio

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733348)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:59 PM
Author: Arrogant Old Irish Cottage

you need a judgment post-lawsuit to report it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733354)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Grizzly Dilemma Prole

i have no problem with a few hundred bucks for an ambulance (want to discourage using them when they're not necessary), but it's absolutely ridiculous that they can charge you $10k for one hour of two $75k/year paramedics in a van.

this is just a subset of the general problem of surprise medical billing, which extends to things like getting an out-of-network anesthesiologist even though your surgeon was in-network and he chose the anesthesiologist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733163)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:37 PM
Author: Arrogant Old Irish Cottage

ive said many times. why dont doctors need to disclose fees on advance like lawyers do? the whole med profession is a fruad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733180)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:38 PM
Author: Translucent Rigor

Insurers negotiate on your behalf.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733187)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:42 PM
Author: Arrogant Old Irish Cottage

do you really believe this low iq generic babble?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733217)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:42 PM
Author: Grizzly Dilemma Prole

and what if i'm out of network or paying cash?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733222)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:45 PM
Author: Grizzly Dilemma Prole

100% agree.

I fractured my leg a few years ago and my orthopedic surgeon prescribed me a knee brace that he said i didn't really need. when i asked the guy in his office how much it would cost (in case my insurance refused to cover it), he refused to give me a #.

it ended up being like $80, but the insane part is i could imagine it being anywhere from like $50 to $5000 because there's no fucking relationship between the cost of the product/service and the price charged.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733248)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:48 PM
Author: Arrogant Old Irish Cottage

exactly. also, there's no cost/benefit analysis involved. doctor orders 500 tests to cover his ass to rule out random shit. no cost disclosed to you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733265)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:09 PM
Author: sexy institution faggot firefighter

Look at this horseshit:

http://www.omlaw.com/azapp-blog/postings/2007/thursday-august-16-2007/

Under Arizona law, the chargemaster (which is full of made up fees that don't have to be approved by anyone) is deemed incorporated into the conditions of admission, even when no specific reference is made to them. Besides, virtually no patient would be able to interpret the gibberish even if it were explicit.

(By the way, as is usual in Arizona, when an appellate judge goes to the trouble of writing a dissent, as here, the dissent is typically right.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735604)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:38 PM
Author: Racy emerald death wish trailer park

"An ambulance ain't got shit on me." -firetruck

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/fire-department-bills-basic-services-horrify-residents-insurance/story?id=9736696

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733189)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:39 PM
Author: Translucent Rigor

this is a libertarian wet dream

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733193)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: Racy emerald death wish trailer park

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733202)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: opaque rehab



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733206)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:57 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy curious meetinghouse dopamine

*libertarian blows down your burning door with a shotgun*

"I'M GONNA HAVE TO GET THE FEE UPFRONT. ALSO HAVE YOU READ ATLAS SHRUGGED?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733343)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:45 PM
Author: Onyx immigrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34734225)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:41 PM
Author: Iridescent appetizing double fault laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733213)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:42 PM
Author: opaque rehab

The Fairchilds' bill for $27,989.12 was itemized with hourly rates for the use of fire trucks, hoses and the firefighters' time, even a case of drinking water for firefighters who got thirsty. The total for five hours of fire personnel on the scene totaled more than $8,500. The use of the fire trucks cost more than $12,300.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733215)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:43 PM
Author: boyish maroon reading party weed whacker

Lawyers cucked by $1,700/hour rate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733226)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:43 PM
Author: Iridescent appetizing double fault laser beams

america sucks now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733228)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:43 PM
Author: Racy emerald death wish trailer park

yeah but his taxes went down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733230)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:44 PM
Author: opaque rehab

eh its much more complicated than that. has little do with libertarianism and all to do with GC shenanigans. read the article.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733235)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:43 PM
Author: opaque rehab

ESBC spokesman Rob Blackford confirmed to ABCNews.com that his company ignores the state recommendation, saying the federal Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act, or CERCLA, allows fire departments to charge what they see fit in exchange for mitigating the environmental impact of an accident or fire.

"I don't care what the fire marshal says at all," Blackford said. "The insurance companies owe this."

He confirmed that the Fairchilds' insurance company was refusing to pay the $28,000 bill and that ESBC would be pursuing the charges in court.

"Every time you have one of these fires, it's an environmental disaster," Blackford said. "Should we make the person who is responsible for the problem pay or should we raise your taxes and my taxes?"

He, instead, blamed insurance companies that collect premiums from their customers, then refuse to pay when called upon.

"I think that's criminal. It's embezzlement," Blackford said. "They're taking the premiums and not paying the claims."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733231)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:44 PM
Author: opaque rehab

Blackford said his company would never go after homeowners if their insurance company refused to pay, but Zarich said they've heard an increasing number of horror stories about accident and fire victims being harrassed for payment.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733241)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:46 PM
Author: mahogany exciting ceo corner

I thought that's what we pay taxes for?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733257)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:14 PM
Author: sexy institution faggot firefighter

Think again!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735634)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:43 PM
Author: Puce comical macaca

I remember a story not too long ago where firemen just watched a home burn with dogs inside because the people didn't pay their fire bill in an unincorporated part of San Diego county. They literally stood there and watched it burn down. Dogs died.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34734210)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 3:46 PM
Author: Carmine motley friendly grandma

I was out riding bikes with some ppl a few months back, and this older (probably mid-60s, but looks older) primary-care physician who's with us crashes his bike and breaks his arm. He gets up immediately after and then passes out and hits his head.

When he comes around, his biggest concern, I shit you not, is making sure that no one had waived his right to refuse ambulance transport while he was unconscious.

Not trying to be some buckwild lib here, but I thought that was kind of a sad observation on our healthcare system.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34733253)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:45 PM
Author: Puce comical macaca

You think that's bad? My law school torts professor said her brother is a doctor and when he got injured he started screaming not to take him to the hospital, whatever they do, just don't take him to any hospital.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34734222)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:14 PM
Author: Unholy really tough guy library

" no one had waived his right to refuse ambulance transport while he was unconscious."

waht does this even mean

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735635)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 5:54 PM
Author: Sapphire kitchen trust fund

Tbf, if we did this with cops, we could eliminate them entirely since no one will pay for domestic disturbance calls and traffic tickets which is 95% of their job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34734296)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 7:36 PM
Author: Arrogant Old Irish Cottage

low iq schtick? how many traffic tickets are the result of someone calling the cops to report a traffic violation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735044)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:19 PM
Author: sexy institution faggot firefighter

I've taken a couple low-money medical debt cases like these, and have won every time with big fee awards in my favor (relative to the underlying debt).

The cases are usually prosecuted by shitlawyers who can't be bothered to properly work up the case, so you end up winning on shit like business records problems and inability to document assignments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735667)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:20 PM
Author: Nubile multi-colored space

Wife’s cousin worked for a “transport company” that was an ambulance service. They’d mainly transport olds and Poors too and from doctors visits. Since Medicaid or Medicare was paying, the old and poors would sometimes get the ambulance guys to take them to the grocery store etc. lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735675)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:21 PM
Author: sexy institution faggot firefighter

If I could make a good living doing it, I'd happily fight with shithead hospitals and ambulance companies all day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735691)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:23 PM
Author: Turquoise theater stage

Yep, and often you dont consent to those around you calling them on your behalf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735705)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:29 PM
Author: Indigo Spectacular Hell

How much would it cost to buy an ambulance to shuttle boomers around in for $8k a ride?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735756)



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Date: November 20th, 2017 9:31 PM
Author: cheese-eating university water buffalo

guy who lives in a first world country here, sup

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3803779&forum_id=2#34735771)