So we've arrived at the point where everyone who has any IQ whatsoever knows iPhones and iMacs are a ripoff yet we feel to need to buy them because of social pressure and social signaling. Chances are, all or most of our friends and family have an iPhone and will bitch about lack of iMessages.

Before someone says some dumb shit like, "I'm not buying an Asian-made phone," consider this: Apple holds around $181 billion dollars offshore because it doesn’t want to pay US tax. iPhones are assembled in shitty death camps. What's American about that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804201&forum_id=2#34735943)

if you don't like it, you might as well completely unplug now and hie to a cabin in Wyoming

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804201&forum_id=2#34736031)

i am sort of down on the upper apple management, they seem largely checked out, but they still have teams doing great work and pushing teh state of technology forward.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804201&forum_id=2#34736242)

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/09/apple-says-face-id-didnt-actually-fail-during-its-iphone-x-event/

I have a X now and face Id works flawlessly. Much bettter than the thumb print thing which wouldn't work for me within fifteen mintutes of taking a shower.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804201&forum_id=2#34767222)

Any old Android phone for $500 does everything a $1000 iPhone does with no lag.

A Dell for half the price beats any Apple PC or just build your own gaming rig like an actual man.

And my Mazda doesn't have Apple CarPlay.

I do own an iPad because Android tablets all universally suck and the Surface costs too much and is too heavy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804201&forum_id=2#34736323)

the macbook is the best consumer laptop out there.

the mackbook pro is the best professional laptop.

iMac is the best consumer desktop available.

Mac Pro is the best professional desktop you can get.

12.9” iPad Pro is the best tablet in existence, period.

the new Apple Watch series 3 is the best smart watch available now.

what am I missing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804201&forum_id=2#34736371)

About a month ago I got my old analog watch repaired after using my iWatch for almost a year or so. In the beginning the iWatch was great, but as time went on it ended up making my life more cumbersome and adding way more steps to my day.

Once I got my old watch back I put it on and my life has gotten much better. Once the novelty wears off, the constant random reminders and updates and calls and stuff just has no real value at all (at least for me), its a marginal improvement.

I never used a Mac for a desktop or laptop computer, but I have an iPhone and iPad.

I think that Apple is good at conning people into an ecosystem but the marginal utility of having more of their products eventually breaks down.

They're gonna still make a fuckload of money for a long long time, but I think that they will have bigger issues when it comes to competition and consumer fatigue as well as no real leadership. I am not the biggest fan of Cook.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804201&forum_id=2#34736388)

Android is shit.

Surface has replaced my Mac.

I want a decent Surface Phone.

Fuck big tech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804201&forum_id=2#34736437)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804201&forum_id=2#34765360)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjSeHQpEoTA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804201&forum_id=2#34765522)

https://www.ft.com/content/7cb56786-cda1-11e7-b781-794ce08b24dc

Apple’s main supplier in Asia has been employing students illegally working overtime to assemble the iPhone X, as it struggles to catch up with demand after production delays. 

Six high school students told the Financial Times they routinely work 11-hour days assembling the iPhone X at a factory in Zhengzhou, China, which constitutes illegal overtime for student interns under Chinese law.

The six said they were among a group of 3,000 students from Zhengzhou Urban Rail Transit School sent in September to work at the local facility run by Taiwan-based Apple supplier Hon Hai Precision Industry, better known as Foxconn.

Why China is Apple’s biggest hope and greatest headache

The students, aged 17 to 19, said they were told that a three-month stint at the factory was required “work experience” that they had to complete in order to graduate. 

“We are being forced by our school to work here,” said Ms Yang, an 18-year-old student training to be a train attendant who declined to use her first name for fear of punishment. “The work has nothing to do with our studies.” She said she assembled up to 1,200 iPhone X cameras a day.

The school declined to comment.

When contacted about the students’ complaints, Apple and Foxconn acknowledged they had discovered cases of student interns working overtime and said they were taking remedial action. But both companies said the students were working voluntarily.

Apple said an audit has turned up “instances of student interns working overtime at a supplier facility in China”, adding “we’ve confirmed the students worked voluntarily, were compensated and provided benefits, but they should not have been allowed to work overtime”. 

Foxconn said that “all work was voluntary and compensated appropriately, [but] the interns did work overtime in violation of our policy” prohibiting student interns working more than 40 hours a week. 

The launch of the anniversary iPhone X was marred by production issues and was delayed to November from Apple’s typical September release date. The weeks of idle capacity caused Foxconn’s quarterly profit to drop 39 per cent. 

According to a long-time Foxconn employee, the Zhengzhou factory hires students every year during the busy season between August and December. Such hiring can swell numbers at the plant from a base of 100,000 to more than 300,000 workers producing up to 20,000 iPhones a day, the employee said.

But this year, the need for seasonal workers was greater, the employee added.

“The purchasing practices of Apple and others are designed to cut costs, and do things ‘just in time’,” said Jenny Chan, assistant professor at the Hong Kong Polytechnic University. “This leads to the use of student labourers who can be flexibly hired.”

Foxconn said its internship programme was “carried out in co-operation with local governments and a number of vocational schools in China”. 

The education ministry of Henan, where Zhengzhou is the capital, issued notices to all vocational schools in the central Chinese province to send their “work experience students” to Foxconn, according to a person who saw the notice. 

Students also came from the nearby cities of Kaifeng, Nanyang, and Xinxiang, according to a Foxconn employee working on the iPhone X. 

The education ministry could not be reached for comment.

Providing flexible student labour is one of the preferential policies that the Henan government offers Foxconn in order to keep it there. 

“Henan province does everything in its power to make sure Foxconn thrives here. It’s not just about tax revenues — it’s about industrial upgrading, building an export industry, having a foreign partnership [with Apple],” said a local official.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3804201&forum_id=2#34768072)