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What was molecular tipping point from great ape to human with free will?
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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:33 PM Author: Bipolar shrine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34743683) |
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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:35 PM Author: lemon parlor I don't see conscious free will as having "injected" itself in to, or molecularly built up over time. Rather, conscious free will was always there, but the apparatus by which it interfaced with reality was still primitive. And this is true of the great apes as much as it is true for all living creatures. My belief is in consciousness as an immutable, indestructable, eternal entity that transmigrates through various life forms. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34743720) |
Date: November 21st, 2017 7:33 PM Author: galvanic digit ratio really tough guy probably when social learning allowed complex behaviors to be taught, shared, and learned (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34743691) |
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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:34 PM Author: Bipolar shrine Wow so could we freeze frame this .00001 second in time? Seems likr there has to be an incremental, marginal moment where this change happened. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34743706) |
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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:36 PM Author: galvanic digit ratio really tough guy i don't think thats the right framework to think about it. you might say it's a category error (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34743732) |
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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:37 PM Author: jet field It may not be a category mistake, depending on your premises (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34743759) |
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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:49 PM Author: galvanic digit ratio really tough guy what premises might those be?
you could define a model where the tipping point was defined to be some arbitrary % of humans had some capacity, but that would be mostly meaningless |
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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:35 PM Author: jet field Why are you assuming apes don't have free will? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34743719) |
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Date: November 21st, 2017 8:21 PM Author: Fishy Circlehead Lay Why is he assuming humans do? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34744104) |
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Date: November 21st, 2017 8:24 PM Author: Metal grizzly mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34744118) |
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Date: November 21st, 2017 8:23 PM Author: Bipolar shrine fair enough but point still stands....just from whatever organism did not have free will to that which did (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34744114) |
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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:35 PM Author: Multi-colored carmine quadroon stoned ape hypothesis: it happened via rapid neurogenesis when proto-humans started eating psychedelic mushrooms (which are very common in Africa, grow out of animal shit) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34743727) |
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Date: November 21st, 2017 7:38 PM Author: jet field Mckenna didn't get the message that lamarck was wrong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805212&forum_id=2#34743765) |
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Date: June 1st, 2023 4:22 PM Author: curious church building The jump wasn’t “great ape”—>human. Apes and humans share a common ancestor, but humans aren’t descended from apes. There were millions of years between that common ancestor and what we are today. Also free will is total flame. |