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Lamarcus: how did Greece & Rome have cosmopolitanism without collapsing birthrat

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Histrionic senate legal warrant
  11/22/17
women didnt have social standing and money and power and bul...
mischievous heaven
  11/22/17
There were shrews believe me
Histrionic senate legal warrant
  11/22/17
they just had far less under their belt, far less from socie...
mischievous heaven
  11/22/17
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mischievous heaven
  11/22/17
Rome was built w/ a tradition of Romanizing everyone they co...
lilac church clown
  11/28/17
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Histrionic senate legal warrant
  11/28/17
Nah. I mean it lasted for hundreds of years - for a polity o...
lilac church clown
  11/28/17
Rome actually does seem to have had a relatively low birthra...
amber fantasy-prone kitty
  11/28/17
Also use of lead vessels to make defrutum, and lead pipes (a...
lilac church clown
  11/28/17
Modern men shouldn't be laughing they are getting phalatepwn...
Histrionic senate legal warrant
  11/28/17
ofs it's lulzy because it's actually kinda similar to the mo...
amber fantasy-prone kitty
  11/28/17
Rome imported more and more underclass savages, & eventu...
razzle-dazzle rusted plaza
  11/28/17
(Cato Censor)
Yapping aphrodisiac juggernaut school
  11/28/17
Sup gibbon
lilac church clown
  11/28/17
(Ronald Syme)
Yapping aphrodisiac juggernaut school
  11/28/17
Bingo.
razzle-dazzle rusted plaza
  11/28/17
Fuck you're right.
lilac church clown
  11/28/17


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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:56 AM
Author: Histrionic senate legal warrant



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:58 AM
Author: mischievous heaven

women didnt have social standing and money and power and bullshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805488&forum_id=2#34745980)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 12:59 AM
Author: Histrionic senate legal warrant

There were shrews believe me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805488&forum_id=2#34745992)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:00 AM
Author: mischievous heaven

they just had far less under their belt, far less from society

less control in a relationship

etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805488&forum_id=2#34745995)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 1:00 AM
Author: mischievous heaven

edit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805488&forum_id=2#34745998)



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Date: November 28th, 2017 1:33 PM
Author: lilac church clown

Rome was built w/ a tradition of Romanizing everyone they conquered - by accepting their elites into their fold.

There were obviously yuge struggles (Social Wars, & part of why Caesar was assassinated was bc he let in all these Gauls into the senate) but for the most part they accepted ppl that WANTED TO BE ROMAN



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805488&forum_id=2#34789853)



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Date: November 28th, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: Histrionic senate legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805488&forum_id=2#34790176)



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Date: November 28th, 2017 2:04 PM
Author: lilac church clown

Nah. I mean it lasted for hundreds of years - for a polity of that size to be that strong for over 2 centuries, and still be strong enough to hold the mediterranean for 2 more centuries, and then STILL hold on to half of it for hundreds more years, I don't think it had to do anything w/ prolefication.

I blame rise of Islam over anything really

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805488&forum_id=2#34790214)



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Date: November 28th, 2017 2:04 PM
Author: amber fantasy-prone kitty

Rome actually does seem to have had a relatively low birthrate in the early empire. There's a lot of theories put forward for this, including this lulzy theory that Roman men fucked up their fertility by taking too many hot baths:

http://www.rhm.uni-koeln.de/128/Devine.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805488&forum_id=2#34790215)



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Date: November 28th, 2017 2:05 PM
Author: lilac church clown

Also use of lead vessels to make defrutum, and lead pipes (although lead pipes build up enough lime to really not carry dangerous of amounts of lead given enough time I think)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805488&forum_id=2#34790231)



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Date: November 28th, 2017 3:31 PM
Author: Histrionic senate legal warrant

Modern men shouldn't be laughing they are getting phalatepwned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805488&forum_id=2#34791050)



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Date: November 28th, 2017 3:57 PM
Author: amber fantasy-prone kitty

ofs it's lulzy because it's actually kinda similar to the modern decline of sperm counts in Western men.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805488&forum_id=2#34791263)



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Date: November 28th, 2017 3:33 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle rusted plaza

Rome imported more and more underclass savages, & eventually the republic fell because of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805488&forum_id=2#34791066)



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Date: November 28th, 2017 3:34 PM
Author: Yapping aphrodisiac juggernaut school

(Cato Censor)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805488&forum_id=2#34791071)



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Date: November 28th, 2017 3:34 PM
Author: lilac church clown

Sup gibbon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805488&forum_id=2#34791072)



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Date: November 28th, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: Yapping aphrodisiac juggernaut school

(Ronald Syme)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805488&forum_id=2#34791085)



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Date: November 28th, 2017 3:35 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle rusted plaza

Bingo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805488&forum_id=2#34791090)



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Date: November 28th, 2017 3:37 PM
Author: lilac church clown

Fuck you're right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805488&forum_id=2#34791102)