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ITT: Most prestigious sport to be best at
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:46 AM Author: cracking point What athletes are most prestigious, specifically those at the top of their sport (i.e. being a middle-of-the-road boxer may not be very prestigious at all in comparison to your average tennis player, but Floyd Mayweather might be more prestigious than Rafa Nadal; it's the latter comparison I'm asking for)?
Please also include how you weight the following criteria: - reliance on team (or lack thereof) - skill difficulty - athleticism demanded - real world benefits (Anderson Silva will never lose a street fight, but Jordan Spieth could get the shit beaten out of him; LeBron will be good at virtually anything athletic IRL, whereas Tom Brady probably wouldn't be) - money and lifestyle afforded
My criteria are something like this in importance: - reliance on team: 8/10 - skill difficulty: 7/10 - athleticism demanded: 9/10 - real world benefits: 9/10 - money and lifestyle afforded: 2/10
I'm going with one of these: - Swimming: no team reliance, very high level of athleticism demanded - Tennis: extremely high skill difficulty, decently high athleticism demanded, decent lifestyle, no team reliance - Boxing/MMA: extremely high skill difficulty, extremely high athleticism demanded, no team reliance, excellent real world benefit, particularly great lifestyle w/boxing - Basketball: High skill difficulty, moderately high athleticism demanded, great real world benefits (good hand/eye coordination and athleticism), nice lifestyle - Water polo: unbelievable athleticism demanded, high skill difficulty, decent real world benefits (primarily due to being incredibly well rounded athletically) - Gymnastics: very high levels of skill difficulty and athleticism, decent real world benefits due to athleticism and cool factor, no reliance on team
Would probably choose Boxing/MMA. |
Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:50 AM Author: Godawful hyperventilating party of the first part Sex (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746347) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:50 AM Author: offensive painfully honest box office Gymnastics is absolutely out because any "overall athleticism" points you gain are negated by the fact that you have to be a manlet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746348) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:57 AM Author: cracking point yeah, maybe. Idk, height isn't as big a deal to me as it seems to be to everyone else on the bort. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746363) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:08 AM Author: offensive painfully honest box office Height is truly important, but the board overstates the impact of being say 5'10" vs. 6' but gymnasts are fucking tiny, like 5'5" that would be killself territory out in the real world |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:15 AM Author: cracking point Fair enough. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746392) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:07 AM Author: Pale boyish cuckoldry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746377) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:28 AM Author: cracking point Hm, criteria? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746423) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:44 AM Author: Pale boyish cuckoldry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746452) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:51 AM Author: cracking point IK Krav Maga, not the other one though. Looking into it now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746596) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:08 AM Author: clear concupiscible kitty lax (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746378) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:28 AM Author: cracking point why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746424) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:49 AM Author: Racy bull headed shrine b/c ur chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746458) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:10 AM Author: thriller persian corner For the US it's either football or basketball. And David Shaw said most football players would rather be basketball players but couldn't hack it, so I'll go with that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746384) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:14 AM Author: offensive painfully honest box office far less risk of injury, which is a huge plus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746389) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:37 AM Author: Flatulent floppy faggotry shit basketball players get paid far more than any other sport + guaranteed contracts + lack of incoming talent each year are the biggest draws. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746440) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:29 AM Author: blathering tan principal's office messiness egregious exclusion of hockey
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:50 AM Author: cracking point I excluded hockey because it's highly team reliant; it's rare for one person to take over a game, so it's less prestigious because even the best are less dominant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746594) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:59 AM Author: lemon field It's rare, but you watch some old clips of people like Gretzky and it's very wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747252) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 4:00 AM Author: Magenta curious newt olympic swimming/diving (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746474) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:01 AM Author: cracking point Hm. What makes it more athletically demanding than boxing/MMA/basketball? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746606) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 4:32 AM Author: Vivacious wrinkle headpube Surfing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746493) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:02 AM Author: cracking point hm. explain why the strength/speed/force generation required by surfing are comparable to football/basketball/boxing/MMA, or why you think that's a poor metric for athletic difficulty.
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:54 AM Author: sticky location Boxing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746599) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:00 AM Author: cracking point I'm assuming you exclude MMA bc 1) lesser money, 2) shorter fights. Please compare the overall athleticism required by MMA and boxing, as well as explain why you think money is better criteria than real world benefit (where MMA fighters kick boxers' around pretty handily). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746605) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:08 AM Author: sticky location lol MMA is for retards, requires no skill, and is basically homos wrestling in underwear.
It's two completely distinct sports. Boxing has a rich history and is a sport for gentleman. MMA is for retards. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 8:16 AM Author: Underhanded brilliant public bath crude but accurate analysis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746828) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:51 AM Author: cracking point You're correct about the clear distinction between them, as well as boxing's rich history. On everything else, you're wrong.
If you're actually arguing that Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai (currently the most influential martial arts in MMA) require no skill, then this is a pointless argument. If you're arguing that the combined practice of those and other martial arts is useless, that's inane. If you're arguing that an MMA fighter wouldn't destroy a boxer in a fight outside a ring, you're deluding yourself.
If prizefighting is supposed to measure skill through ability to incapacitate your opponent (which is the principle boxing is based on), how is MMA not a more complete measure of skill? |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:06 AM Author: mentally impaired piazza BJJ & Muay Thai are clearly more useful IRL because they incorporate more than punching. MMA is appealing because there are fewer rules, so it more closely resembles a street fight.
I'm not 100% convinced that MMA fighters univeresally would annihilate boxers in a no rules street fight. For defensive boxers, this is probably true, but what about a fucker like Roberto Duran? Roy Jones? MMA fighters study boxing and striking too. Many of them, were they elite level punchers or boxers would have gone that route, as there is more money to be made.
Prizefighting is supposed to measure skill through the ability to hit and not get hit within the Marquess of Queensberry rules. That is what makes is an art, a chess match if you will. Each fighter's will and strategy tested as the fight unfolds over 12 rounds is what makes the sport appealing.
Not to take anything away from MMA, but it is crude and often unpleasant to watch. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:04 AM Author: Dun heady dysfunction hell you are laughably wrong about the lack of skill required in wrestling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747272) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:14 AM Author: cracking point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34754875) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:54 AM Author: Bat Shit Crazy Sweet Tailpipe Factory Reset Button swimming for a man, figure skating for a woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746601) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:57 AM Author: cracking point compare swimming to boxing/MMA and explain your rationale. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746603) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:13 AM Author: Multi-colored Deranged Coffee Pot Rugby league forward. Power, size, fitness, skill (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746626) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:27 AM Author: cracking point Yeah, probably should've included them in my top five. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746660) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:24 AM Author: frisky generalized bond trailer park Hunting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746651) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:27 AM Author: mentally impaired piazza Not going to go through your criteria. The answer is soccer.
Messi and Ronaldo are international icons and superstars in a way that no other athlete in any other sport is. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:32 AM Author: maroon corn cake Boxing, the way to earn the most money by being the best in the world at a sport.
Golf, you can play at at elite level and earn for going on 40 years. |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:54 AM Author: mentally impaired piazza Yes, the best fighter always gets paid the most. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747226) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:58 AM Author: cracking point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747247) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 8:15 AM Author: fiercely-loyal silver theatre french chef polo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746821) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:40 AM Author: naked area goal in life If in the US, basketball. If in any other country, soccer. If you’re the best in the world at either sport, you are guaranteed to be a worldwide household name and global phenomenon in terms of branding. No other sport guarantees that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747156) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:54 AM Author: Amber Circlehead Strongman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747229) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:17 AM Author: cracking point Hadn't considered strongman tbh. Not a bad answer though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34754878) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:02 AM Author: Dun heady dysfunction hell I'm not even a huge boxing fan, but it's hard to argue with boxing as the top choice here. Exceedingly prestigious to be the best in the world, even if boxing is quite unprestigious at the lower levels. It's almost like acting in that way.
I also think being the best skier in the world is underrated. Those guys are unbelievable athletes, no team reliance, pretty good real world attributes, etc. The money is not quite as good as other sports though. |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:18 AM Author: cracking point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34754879) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:04 AM Author: burgundy impressive pisswyrm hissy fit Water polo, if you really think about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747271) |
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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:16 AM Author: cracking point Pretty legit answer. The more I know about it, the more inclined I am to agree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34754877) |