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ITT: Most prestigious sport to be best at

What athletes are most prestigious, specifically those at th...
flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/22/17
Sex
Red dingle berry
  11/22/17
Gymnastics is absolutely out because any "overall athle...
indigo athletic conference death wish
  11/22/17
yeah, maybe. Idk, height isn't as big a deal to me as it see...
flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/22/17
Height is truly important, but the board overstates the impa...
indigo athletic conference death wish
  11/22/17
Fair enough.
flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/22/17
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Histrionic elastic band
  11/22/17
Hm, criteria?
flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/22/17
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Histrionic elastic band
  11/22/17
IK Krav Maga, not the other one though. Looking into it now....
flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/22/17
lax
Massive Church
  11/22/17
why?
flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/22/17
b/c ur chad
Mind-boggling National Security Agency
  11/22/17
For the US it's either football or basketball. And David Sha...
Sexy Gaming Laptop Coffee Pot
  11/22/17
far less risk of injury, which is a huge plus
indigo athletic conference death wish
  11/22/17
shit basketball players get paid far more than any other spo...
Wonderful Dopamine Heaven
  11/22/17
egregious exclusion of hockey
Dark Beady-eyed Hissy Fit
  11/22/17
I excluded hockey because it's highly team reliant; it's rar...
flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/22/17
It's rare, but you watch some old clips of people like Gretz...
carnelian mediation pit
  11/22/17
olympic swimming/diving
Provocative abode affirmative action
  11/22/17
Hm. What makes it more athletically demanding than boxing/MM...
flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/22/17
Surfing
Bat-shit-crazy ruddy goal in life
  11/22/17
hm. explain why the strength/speed/force generation required...
flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/22/17
Boxing.
Cowardly Psychic Brunch
  11/22/17
I'm assuming you exclude MMA bc 1) lesser money, 2) shorter ...
flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/22/17
lol MMA is for retards, requires no skill, and is basically ...
Cowardly Psychic Brunch
  11/22/17
crude but accurate analysis
galvanic coral genital piercing juggernaut
  11/22/17
You're correct about the clear distinction between them, as ...
flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/22/17
BJJ & Muay Thai are clearly more useful IRL because they...
puce marvelous theatre
  11/22/17
you are laughably wrong about the lack of skill required in ...
overrated chapel
  11/22/17
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flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/23/17
swimming for a man, figure skating for a woman
180 forum
  11/22/17
compare swimming to boxing/MMA and explain your rationale.
flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/22/17
Rugby league forward. Power, size, fitness, skill
green potus
  11/22/17
Yeah, probably should've included them in my top five.
flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/22/17
Hunting
beta charcoal tank travel guidebook
  11/22/17
Not going to go through your criteria. The answer is soccer....
puce marvelous theatre
  11/22/17
Boxing, the way to earn the most money by being the best in ...
Buck-toothed principal's office candlestick maker
  11/22/17
Yes, the best fighter always gets paid the most.
puce marvelous theatre
  11/22/17
...
flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/22/17
polo
Shimmering ceo
  11/22/17
If in the US, basketball. If in any other country, soccer. I...
Kink-friendly puppy windowlicker
  11/22/17
Strongman
cocky heady market roast beef
  11/22/17
Hadn't considered strongman tbh. Not a bad answer though.
flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/23/17
I'm not even a huge boxing fan, but it's hard to argue with ...
overrated chapel
  11/22/17
...
flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/23/17
Water polo, if you really think about it.
soul-stirring mustard cruise ship
  11/22/17
Pretty legit answer. The more I know about it, the more incl...
flushed meetinghouse telephone
  11/23/17


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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:46 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone

What athletes are most prestigious, specifically those at the top of their sport (i.e. being a middle-of-the-road boxer may not be very prestigious at all in comparison to your average tennis player, but Floyd Mayweather might be more prestigious than Rafa Nadal; it's the latter comparison I'm asking for)?

Please also include how you weight the following criteria:

- reliance on team (or lack thereof)

- skill difficulty

- athleticism demanded

- real world benefits (Anderson Silva will never lose a street fight, but Jordan Spieth could get the shit beaten out of him; LeBron will be good at virtually anything athletic IRL, whereas Tom Brady probably wouldn't be)

- money and lifestyle afforded

My criteria are something like this in importance:

- reliance on team: 8/10

- skill difficulty: 7/10

- athleticism demanded: 9/10

- real world benefits: 9/10

- money and lifestyle afforded: 2/10

I'm going with one of these:

- Swimming: no team reliance, very high level of athleticism demanded

- Tennis: extremely high skill difficulty, decently high athleticism demanded, decent lifestyle, no team reliance

- Boxing/MMA: extremely high skill difficulty, extremely high athleticism demanded, no team reliance, excellent real world benefit, particularly great lifestyle w/boxing

- Basketball: High skill difficulty, moderately high athleticism demanded, great real world benefits (good hand/eye coordination and athleticism), nice lifestyle

- Water polo: unbelievable athleticism demanded, high skill difficulty, decent real world benefits (primarily due to being incredibly well rounded athletically)

- Gymnastics: very high levels of skill difficulty and athleticism, decent real world benefits due to athleticism and cool factor, no reliance on team

Would probably choose Boxing/MMA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746344)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:50 AM
Author: Red dingle berry

Sex

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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:50 AM
Author: indigo athletic conference death wish

Gymnastics is absolutely out because any "overall athleticism" points you gain are negated by the fact that you have to be a manlet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746348)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:57 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone

yeah, maybe. Idk, height isn't as big a deal to me as it seems to be to everyone else on the bort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746363)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:08 AM
Author: indigo athletic conference death wish

Height is truly important, but the board overstates the impact of being say 5'10" vs. 6'

but gymnasts are fucking tiny, like 5'5"

that would be killself territory out in the real world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746381)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:15 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone

Fair enough.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746392)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:07 AM
Author: Histrionic elastic band



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:28 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone

Hm, criteria?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746423)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:44 AM
Author: Histrionic elastic band



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:51 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone

IK Krav Maga, not the other one though. Looking into it now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746596)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:08 AM
Author: Massive Church

lax

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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:28 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone

why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746424)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:49 AM
Author: Mind-boggling National Security Agency

b/c ur chad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746458)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:10 AM
Author: Sexy Gaming Laptop Coffee Pot

For the US it's either football or basketball. And David Shaw said most football players would rather be basketball players but couldn't hack it, so I'll go with that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746384)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:14 AM
Author: indigo athletic conference death wish

far less risk of injury, which is a huge plus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746389)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:37 AM
Author: Wonderful Dopamine Heaven

shit basketball players get paid far more than any other sport + guaranteed contracts + lack of incoming talent each year are the biggest draws.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746440)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:29 AM
Author: Dark Beady-eyed Hissy Fit

egregious exclusion of hockey



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746426)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:50 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone

I excluded hockey because it's highly team reliant; it's rare for one person to take over a game, so it's less prestigious because even the best are less dominant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746594)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:59 AM
Author: carnelian mediation pit

It's rare, but you watch some old clips of people like Gretzky and it's very wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747252)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 4:00 AM
Author: Provocative abode affirmative action

olympic swimming/diving

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746474)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:01 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone

Hm. What makes it more athletically demanding than boxing/MMA/basketball?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746606)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 4:32 AM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy ruddy goal in life

Surfing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746493)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:02 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone

hm. explain why the strength/speed/force generation required by surfing are comparable to football/basketball/boxing/MMA, or why you think that's a poor metric for athletic difficulty.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746607)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:54 AM
Author: Cowardly Psychic Brunch

Boxing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746599)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:00 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone

I'm assuming you exclude MMA bc 1) lesser money, 2) shorter fights. Please compare the overall athleticism required by MMA and boxing, as well as explain why you think money is better criteria than real world benefit (where MMA fighters kick boxers' around pretty handily).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746605)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:08 AM
Author: Cowardly Psychic Brunch

lol MMA is for retards, requires no skill, and is basically homos wrestling in underwear.

It's two completely distinct sports. Boxing has a rich history and is a sport for gentleman. MMA is for retards.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746615)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 8:16 AM
Author: galvanic coral genital piercing juggernaut

crude but accurate analysis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746828)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:51 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone

You're correct about the clear distinction between them, as well as boxing's rich history. On everything else, you're wrong.

If you're actually arguing that Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai (currently the most influential martial arts in MMA) require no skill, then this is a pointless argument. If you're arguing that the combined practice of those and other martial arts is useless, that's inane. If you're arguing that an MMA fighter wouldn't destroy a boxer in a fight outside a ring, you're deluding yourself.

If prizefighting is supposed to measure skill through ability to incapacitate your opponent (which is the principle boxing is based on), how is MMA not a more complete measure of skill?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747206)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:06 AM
Author: puce marvelous theatre

BJJ & Muay Thai are clearly more useful IRL because they incorporate more than punching. MMA is appealing because there are fewer rules, so it more closely resembles a street fight.

I'm not 100% convinced that MMA fighters univeresally would annihilate boxers in a no rules street fight. For defensive boxers, this is probably true, but what about a fucker like Roberto Duran? Roy Jones? MMA fighters study boxing and striking too. Many of them, were they elite level punchers or boxers would have gone that route, as there is more money to be made.

Prizefighting is supposed to measure skill through the ability to hit and not get hit within the Marquess of Queensberry rules. That is what makes is an art, a chess match if you will. Each fighter's will and strategy tested as the fight unfolds over 12 rounds is what makes the sport appealing.

Not to take anything away from MMA, but it is crude and often unpleasant to watch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747283)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:04 AM
Author: overrated chapel

you are laughably wrong about the lack of skill required in wrestling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747272)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:14 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34754875)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:54 AM
Author: 180 forum

swimming for a man, figure skating for a woman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746601)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 6:57 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone

compare swimming to boxing/MMA and explain your rationale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746603)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:13 AM
Author: green potus

Rugby league forward. Power, size, fitness, skill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746626)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:27 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone

Yeah, probably should've included them in my top five.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746660)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:24 AM
Author: beta charcoal tank travel guidebook

Hunting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746651)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:27 AM
Author: puce marvelous theatre

Not going to go through your criteria. The answer is soccer.

Messi and Ronaldo are international icons and superstars in a way that no other athlete in any other sport is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746659)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 7:32 AM
Author: Buck-toothed principal's office candlestick maker

Boxing, the way to earn the most money by being the best in the world at a sport.

Golf, you can play at at elite level and earn for going on 40 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34746677)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:54 AM
Author: puce marvelous theatre

Yes, the best fighter always gets paid the most.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747226)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:58 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 8:15 AM
Author: Shimmering ceo

polo

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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:40 AM
Author: Kink-friendly puppy windowlicker

If in the US, basketball. If in any other country, soccer. If you’re the best in the world at either sport, you are guaranteed to be a worldwide household name and global phenomenon in terms of branding. No other sport guarantees that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747156)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 9:54 AM
Author: cocky heady market roast beef

Strongman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747229)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:17 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone

Hadn't considered strongman tbh. Not a bad answer though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34754878)



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:02 AM
Author: overrated chapel

I'm not even a huge boxing fan, but it's hard to argue with boxing as the top choice here. Exceedingly prestigious to be the best in the world, even if boxing is quite unprestigious at the lower levels. It's almost like acting in that way.

I also think being the best skier in the world is underrated. Those guys are unbelievable athletes, no team reliance, pretty good real world attributes, etc. The money is not quite as good as other sports though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747261)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:18 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone



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Date: November 22nd, 2017 10:04 AM
Author: soul-stirring mustard cruise ship

Water polo, if you really think about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34747271)



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Date: November 23rd, 2017 7:16 AM
Author: flushed meetinghouse telephone

Pretty legit answer. The more I know about it, the more inclined I am to agree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805543&forum_id=2#34754877)