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Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:52 PM Author: bespoke field
I'm in favor of repealing laws making it illegal to discriminate on the basis of race in the real estate context. Let people decide for themselves who they want to live with.
If a neighborhood wants to be explicitly white and not rent or sell to blacks or other minorities, that's their right. Same goes for all races.
This is the free market solution, not government imposed segregation.
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:01 PM Author: bespoke field
Nice strawman.
Reread what I said. A property owner should have the right to decide who he wants to sell or rent to. If a group of people want to live in a neighborhood of a particular race, that should also be their right.
If you don't like it, don't move to that neighborhood.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805948&forum_id=2#34749822) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:17 PM Author: bespoke field
It is social engineering for the government to intervene and forcibly impose limits on who you can sell or rent your property to, in an attempt to create more integration.
If you are renting out your apartment, it's your money on the line. That's enough incentive not to rent to trash of any race. If you want to further prefer to rent to your race, that should be your right.
Likewise, the free market will ensure that a black or Mexican doctor making $275k will be able to purchase property. I'm sure there are plenty of property owners who would be happy to find such a buyer, including many whites. But if a white guy is faced with such a buyer and choose not to sell, holding out for a white who can afford his property, that should also be his right. He's the one hurt if he can't find a white buyer.
I'm not saying that every white should exclude every black. Just that every race should have the right to choose who they sell or rent to, because they face the consequences. The government has no right intruding on private property ownership as they do.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805948&forum_id=2#34750013) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:28 PM Author: bespoke field
No, this is another strawman of yours. I'm not talking about Section 8 housing.
I'm talking about two distinct concepts:
1. A property owner currently cannot turn down applicants on the basis of race. Section 8 is a subset, but take that out of the picture and the prohibition remains.
2. Neighborhoods cannot be created explicitly designed for a particular race.
Both prohibitions/restrictions on private property ownership should be abolished, for the reasons just described.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805948&forum_id=2#34750113) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:21 PM Author: Grizzly point
?
You need more than skin color if you're going to discriminate. If you're so adamant about said person being a danger, you can start digging for criminal records, poor rental history, poor job history, etc.
Just admit you're lazy and would rather just look and say "ugh...BLACKS!" than actually do any research to at least try to justify why they shouldn't be there. Also, if you're worried about criminals moving in next door or up the street, you may want to improve your income situation as your concerns are pretty much the concerns that lower income folks have. I don't know of anyone solidly middle/upper middle class who has had issues with dangerous people moving in next door or up the street; it's only been folks with little money complaining.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805948&forum_id=2#34750054) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:36 PM Author: bespoke field
And if that's the case, removing the prohibitions on discriminating based on race shouldn't have much of an impact.
We don't start from the standpoint of having government restrictions on private property ownership, removing them only if there's a valid reason. We start with a hands off approach, only imposing such prohibitions if there's an incredibly compelling reason.
You've got the order backwards, and since even you concede what I advocate won't make much of a practical impact (aside from giving the owner more choice), the prohibitions should be removed.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805948&forum_id=2#34750211) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:43 PM Author: bespoke field
How dumb are you?
I already explained that you are reversing the burden. It's not my burden to come up with a legitimate reason to remove a ridiculous restriction on private property ownership.
It's your burden to demonstrate why the prohibitions should be imposed to begin with. So far, you've failed miserably, essentially conceding there AREN'T any reasons since people won't follow them anyway.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805948&forum_id=2#34750276) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:47 PM Author: bespoke field
No, you already admitted the protections are not needed since people will come up with pretexts and discriminate anyway.
I also explained that many of people would buy or rent to a black doctor making $275k anyway. Your notion that removing the prohibitions would result in such a person being blocked out of nice areas is unfounded speculation.
You are restricting the freedom of private property owners to utilize their property for no legitimate reason.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805948&forum_id=2#34750312) |
Date: November 22nd, 2017 2:56 PM Author: ruddy forum
Not government imposed. I'm against government power.
BUT, the government also should not STOP people from self-segregating.
EG. Racial restrictive covenants shuold be legal and enforceable.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805948&forum_id=2#34749766) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:12 PM Author: Chocolate At-the-ready Clown
what is the max IQ to unironically think that private citizens exercising arbitrary discrimination based on *anything* is inherently bad?
like 103?
have you ever independently thought about this subject matter for more than 30-40 seconds?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805948&forum_id=2#34749974) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:21 PM Author: Titillating Pearly Casino
lol I have at least 20 IQ points on you
you are the board laughingstock on a board full of people who agree with you politically
LJL
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805948&forum_id=2#34750059) |
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:28 PM Author: Titillating Pearly Casino
ty
I wear it proudly
I also never say sexist or homophobic things
I am an outted poster and I don't have to hide behind everything I say like a little bitch
meanwhile the xo racists would NEVER have the guts to say any of this stuff IRL because they're punks
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Date: November 22nd, 2017 3:25 PM Author: Blue coffee pot
complete freedom of association
incentivization of traditional families
pre-1965 immigration policy
defund all non-stem faculites in universities
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3805948&forum_id=2#34750088) |
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