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Okay, so we are going to get fucked on Net Neutrality. An...
Floppy native
  11/24/17
if you don't like what google or fox news does with your inf...
buff crackhouse mad cow disease
  12/09/17
Dude if you don’t want to be lied to, why the fuck are you w...
Hideous Codepig Forum
  11/24/17
I'm stuck in a timeshare w my dad at the moment.
Floppy native
  11/24/17
Lmao on "try CNN"
Bisexual dead chapel
  11/24/17
Nah, he's right. CNN at least has some amount of integrity....
Floppy native
  11/24/17
They absolutely do not.
Bisexual dead chapel
  11/24/17
They have some. FOX HAS NONE. and viewers of this fox stuf...
Floppy native
  11/24/17
You're a lib, we get it
Bisexual dead chapel
  11/24/17
My point, though. ...
Floppy native
  11/24/17
Your point requires that you also be a lib that ignores the ...
Bisexual dead chapel
  11/24/17
Maybe maybe I'm open to it but I think my glass house has so...
Floppy native
  11/24/17
You're blatantly grasping at straws
Bisexual dead chapel
  11/24/17
LOL. Are you fucking serious? It’s been a Trump hit site...
Electric olive nursing home kitty cat
  11/24/17
Yes, but I'm not being LIED to about Trump there or by dems.
Floppy native
  11/24/17
It’s all how they color it. I feel lied. To by CNN as we...
Electric olive nursing home kitty cat
  11/24/17
I think its more than "colors". But yes, I am gene...
Floppy native
  11/24/17
I’m a gay dude that became a republican in the last cycle ba...
Electric olive nursing home kitty cat
  11/24/17
...
Hideous Codepig Forum
  11/24/17
Ok. But that's not really on track w my feeling that Repu...
Floppy native
  11/24/17
IIt’s not like liberal talking points are any better. Ther...
Electric olive nursing home kitty cat
  11/24/17
Hmmm. Too many nahs here for me.
Floppy native
  11/24/17
Sounds like you already made up your mind and you’re judging...
Electric olive nursing home kitty cat
  11/24/17
Its just your not giving me an example. If you gave me a go...
Floppy native
  11/24/17
Look at any “opinion” piece on CNN and tell me you buy into....
Electric olive nursing home kitty cat
  11/24/17
Wait, I dont want to get into it w you but you are evading.
Floppy native
  11/24/17
I stopped reading CNN over. A year ago. I’m not evading,...
Electric olive nursing home kitty cat
  11/24/17
lol
up-to-no-good space
  11/24/17
It used to Now the only one with any integrity is Robin M...
deep psychic
  11/24/17
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stirring clear foreskin selfie
  05/14/19
Yeah, because Democrats aren't also full of shit.
Bisexual dead chapel
  11/24/17
I knew you were going to say this, but I think the types of ...
Floppy native
  11/24/17
I can’t read CNN either. They all have an agenda.
Electric olive nursing home kitty cat
  11/24/17
Are you kidding? They are literally trying to shift the dem...
Bisexual dead chapel
  11/24/17
Naw CNN at least tries to be fair. Why do you think they’re ...
Hideous Codepig Forum
  11/24/17
Have you watched CNN lately? They haven't given a shit abou...
Bisexual dead chapel
  11/24/17
Valid point though... Its CNN you see in airports, etc all a...
Floppy native
  11/24/17
Right, but it has been that way for decades. They used to b...
Bisexual dead chapel
  11/24/17
I don't necessarily disagree w that. But lets keep in kind ...
Floppy native
  11/24/17
It is all about power politics and ultimately, both have dif...
Bisexual dead chapel
  11/24/17
Well,.for me, the first question is who cares less about bei...
Floppy native
  11/24/17
They care equally about being truthful (they don't care at a...
Bisexual dead chapel
  11/24/17
...
Floppy native
  12/09/17
Well i'm convinced! How fucking dumb are you spaceporn
Idiotic Naked Address
  11/24/17
Well, why is it? Or does your world view entail a disregard...
Floppy native
  11/24/17
If the alt right is so funny, why dont they have any shows??
Idiotic Naked Address
  11/24/17
I dont understand. I think you are making a reference to so...
Floppy native
  11/24/17
Yeah I was running flame itt. Glad spaceporn agreed 100% wit...
Hideous Codepig Forum
  11/24/17
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Idiotic Naked Address
  11/24/17
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Bisexual dead chapel
  11/24/17
Okay but how does this go to.my original point. Which is fag...
Floppy native
  11/24/17
It goes to the fact that everyone is full of shit in politic...
Bisexual dead chapel
  11/24/17
I think you've assumed some facts not in evidence, friend.
Floppy native
  11/24/17
Oh yeah, they don't care if regular people in places like Oh...
Bisexual dead chapel
  11/24/17
They do care. But you've overstated what you are trying to ...
Floppy native
  11/24/17
It was just an example of their bullshit.
Bisexual dead chapel
  11/24/17
But CNN is so not like a TMZ on crack.
Electric olive nursing home kitty cat
  11/24/17
CNN isn’t even news anymore. it’s just shitlib porn
Soul-stirring son of senegal juggernaut
  11/24/17
Zucker even admits this
Idiotic Naked Address
  11/24/17
Even if Zucker posted this everywhere...that "CNN is li...
Floppy native
  11/24/17
It would, mostly because Zuckerberg is a huge shitlib. For ...
Bisexual dead chapel
  11/24/17
If Zucker is a shitlib, why doesn't he like "shitlib po...
Floppy native
  11/24/17
He isn't saying he doesn't like it.
Bisexual dead chapel
  11/24/17
LMAO, profoundly stupid thread with some of our most disting...
Jet big stage preventive strike
  11/24/17
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  11/24/17
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  12/09/17
Tbf, the worries about google privacy are overblown. We've b...
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  11/24/17
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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:39 AM
Author: Floppy native

Okay, so we are going to get fucked on Net Neutrality.

And then I turn on Fox News and get tons of talk about how Google tracks locations.

I presume that part of the net neutrality proposL will include something in there about privacy. And FOX news, being a mouthpiece for big business and the billionaires, ramps up the foxtards w this red meat Google tracking (heavens to betsy!) nonsense to occupy their brain while billionaires are assraping us with an end to net neutrality that will have something in there about privacy to sell to the marks in this con (all of us).

I hate, hate hate being lied to, or played like a chump, and everytime I turn on fox news, this is what I see. Utter contempt for brains or thought. And whose pushing this crap, almost exclusively? The billionaires who are enslaving all of us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34759939)



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Date: December 9th, 2017 8:24 PM
Author: buff crackhouse mad cow disease

if you don't like what google or fox news does with your information after reading their terms and conditions don't use their products

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34878262)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:41 AM
Author: Hideous Codepig Forum

Dude if you don’t want to be lied to, why the fuck are you watching Fox News? They only look out for big business interests. Try CNN or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34759945)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:43 AM
Author: Floppy native

I'm stuck in a timeshare w my dad at the moment.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34759956)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:44 AM
Author: Bisexual dead chapel

Lmao on "try CNN"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34759960)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:45 AM
Author: Floppy native

Nah, he's right. CNN at least has some amount of integrity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34759967)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:45 AM
Author: Bisexual dead chapel

They absolutely do not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34759971)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:47 AM
Author: Floppy native

They have some. FOX HAS NONE. and viewers of this fox stuff are just dumb as shit not to read between the lines.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34759986)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:53 AM
Author: Bisexual dead chapel

You're a lib, we get it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760015)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:54 AM
Author: Floppy native

My point, though. ...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760023)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:00 AM
Author: Bisexual dead chapel

Your point requires that you also be a lib that ignores the glass house you're tossing stones from...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760053)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:05 AM
Author: Floppy native

Maybe maybe I'm open to it but I think my glass house has some foundation at least. Some girders, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760085)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:58 AM
Author: Bisexual dead chapel

You're blatantly grasping at straws

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760292)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:47 AM
Author: Electric olive nursing home kitty cat

LOL. Are you fucking serious? It’s been a Trump hit site for 2 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34759987)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:51 AM
Author: Floppy native

Yes, but I'm not being LIED to about Trump there or by dems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760005)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:52 AM
Author: Electric olive nursing home kitty cat

It’s all how they color it. I feel lied. To by CNN as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760012)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:55 AM
Author: Floppy native

I think its more than "colors". But yes, I am generally progressive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760030)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:58 AM
Author: Electric olive nursing home kitty cat

I’m a gay dude that became a republican in the last cycle based on a liberal narrative that I will not co-sign

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760045)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:00 AM
Author: Hideous Codepig Forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760058)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:09 AM
Author: Floppy native

Ok.

But that's not really on track w my feeling that Republicans hold their supporters in contempt and its very easy to play those supporters and fox.news.leaps in w its billionaire bullet points.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760108)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:12 AM
Author: Electric olive nursing home kitty cat

IIt’s not like liberal talking points are any better. Therir agenda has ruined more of our society than some talking head on TV will ever accomplish. It’s your own personal dogma that dictates what you believe. Thinking that TV news is going to inform you on any level just seems naive at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760127)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:14 AM
Author: Floppy native

Hmmm. Too many nahs here for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760136)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: Electric olive nursing home kitty cat

Sounds like you already made up your mind and you’re judging the news based on your personal beliefs. It’s all good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760143)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:18 AM
Author: Floppy native

Its just your not giving me an example. If you gave me a good one, like my OP in the other direction, then I could respond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760149)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:19 AM
Author: Electric olive nursing home kitty cat

Look at any “opinion” piece on CNN and tell me you buy into. It..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760156)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:22 AM
Author: Floppy native

Wait, I dont want to get into it w you but you are evading.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760172)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:24 AM
Author: Electric olive nursing home kitty cat

I stopped reading CNN over. A year ago. I’m not evading, I have nothing of substance to provide you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760176)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:51 AM
Author: up-to-no-good space

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760006)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:55 AM
Author: deep psychic

It used to

Now the only one with any integrity is Robin Meade. The rest are rabid anti trump types who can't be trusted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760027)



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Date: May 14th, 2019 9:01 PM
Author: stirring clear foreskin selfie



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:44 AM
Author: Bisexual dead chapel

Yeah, because Democrats aren't also full of shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34759963)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:46 AM
Author: Floppy native

I knew you were going to say this, but I think the types of crap and the degree and the puppetworkers are less obviously working w malice toward humanity coming from dems, or at least, the progressives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34759978)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:47 AM
Author: Electric olive nursing home kitty cat

I can’t read CNN either. They all have an agenda.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34759982)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:49 AM
Author: Bisexual dead chapel

Are you kidding? They are literally trying to shift the demographics of the country so they can win elections and declaring that it is only a matter of fairness. They decry racism and sexism while making everything about race and gender. They have a bunch of people like Clinton who claim to care primarily about the poor but who got rich from politics and are buddies with most of wall Street. I could do on and on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34759998)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:52 AM
Author: Hideous Codepig Forum

Naw CNN at least tries to be fair. Why do you think they’re the go to news network worldwide? Airports etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760011)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:54 AM
Author: Bisexual dead chapel

Have you watched CNN lately? They haven't given a shit about fairness for at least a few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760019)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:56 AM
Author: Floppy native

Valid point though... Its CNN you see in airports, etc all around the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760034)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:57 AM
Author: Bisexual dead chapel

Right, but it has been that way for decades. They used to be better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760040)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:01 AM
Author: Floppy native

I don't necessarily disagree w that. But lets keep in kind shades and degrees. Which party is at present currently more egregious in whoring out to billionaires?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760063)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:11 AM
Author: Bisexual dead chapel

It is all about power politics and ultimately, both have different sets of rich people they bow to. The question is whether you would rather have a party that wants to make oil and gas companies money or would rather cater to the likes of Al Sharpton, Gloria Allred, etc. Also, not surprising that a number of tech billionaires in SV are huge shitlibs, like Zuckerberg. You know, the guys that took corporate invasion of privacy to the next level.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760120)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:14 AM
Author: Floppy native

Well,.for me, the first question is who cares less about being truthful. Once I know that, then I'm open to considerations.

This is probably a trial lawyer mentality I think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760133)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:51 AM
Author: Bisexual dead chapel

They care equally about being truthful (they don't care at all beyond what it gets them).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760276)



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Date: December 9th, 2017 8:22 PM
Author: Floppy native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34878255)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:58 AM
Author: Idiotic Naked Address

Well i'm convinced!

How fucking dumb are you spaceporn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760046)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:02 AM
Author: Floppy native

Well, why is it? Or does your world view entail a disregard for the rest of the world's opinion on news coverage?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760070)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:07 AM
Author: Idiotic Naked Address

If the alt right is so funny, why dont they have any shows??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760099)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:10 AM
Author: Floppy native

I dont understand. I think you are making a reference to something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760113)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:58 AM
Author: Hideous Codepig Forum

Yeah I was running flame itt. Glad spaceporn agreed 100% with my flame tho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760044)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:59 AM
Author: Idiotic Naked Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760049)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:00 AM
Author: Bisexual dead chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760055)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:53 AM
Author: Floppy native

Okay but how does this go to.my original point. Which is faggot Republican agenda is basically just lying to people considered to be chumps by the same Republicans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760018)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:56 AM
Author: Bisexual dead chapel

It goes to the fact that everyone is full of shit in politics. Democrats try to tell some guy in Ohio working at a factory that they care about them while working to encourage illegal immigration that will destroy the value of their labor. Not only do they not care about that worker, most are coastal elites that look down on people like that anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760036)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:04 AM
Author: Floppy native

I think you've assumed some facts not in evidence, friend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760082)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:13 AM
Author: Bisexual dead chapel

Oh yeah, they don't care if regular people in places like Ohio, Michigan, PA, WI, etc. vote for them...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760128)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:18 AM
Author: Floppy native

They do care. But you've overstated what you are trying to say so I cant sign on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760153)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:51 AM
Author: Bisexual dead chapel

It was just an example of their bullshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760279)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 12:44 AM
Author: Electric olive nursing home kitty cat

But CNN is so not like a TMZ on crack.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34759964)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:06 AM
Author: Soul-stirring son of senegal juggernaut

CNN isn’t even news anymore. it’s just shitlib porn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760092)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:09 AM
Author: Idiotic Naked Address

Zucker even admits this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760107)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:11 AM
Author: Floppy native

Even if Zucker posted this everywhere...that "CNN is libporn" would that make it true?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760122)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:12 AM
Author: Bisexual dead chapel

It would, mostly because Zuckerberg is a huge shitlib. For him to admit this requires that it be pretty much undeniable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760126)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:16 AM
Author: Floppy native

If Zucker is a shitlib, why doesn't he like "shitlib porn"? Something's not right here... Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760145)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 1:52 AM
Author: Bisexual dead chapel

He isn't saying he doesn't like it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34760280)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:24 PM
Author: Jet big stage preventive strike

LMAO, profoundly stupid thread with some of our most distinguished dumb posters all mounting solidly retarded efforts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34765708)



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:27 PM
Author: maniacal charcoal potus

CR

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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:36 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle irate love of her life



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Date: December 9th, 2017 8:32 PM
Author: brindle hyperactive menage



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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:28 PM
Author: jet-lagged slap-happy gas station skinny woman

Tbf, the worries about google privacy are overblown. We've been spied on at a much higher rate and far more intrusively by the gov. Just accept it and move the fuck on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34765734)



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Date: December 9th, 2017 8:21 PM
Author: Mischievous regret

TITCOP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3807376&forum_id=2#34878248)