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Top 15 College Football Jobs RANKED
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Date: November 24th, 2017 9:46 PM Author: judgmental market partner 1. Texas 2. Notre Dame 3. Alabama 4. Ohio State 5. USC 6. Michigan 7. Oklahoma 8. Florida State 9. Georgia 10. Florida 11. Clemson 12. LSU 13. Nebraska 14. Miami (Florida) 15. Penn State
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Date: November 24th, 2017 9:49 PM Author: judgmental market partner May have Michigan too high. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765039) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 9:55 PM Author: judgmental market partner Not many sports fans, I guess. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765071) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:05 PM Author: Startling Forum What's the criteria for making a job good?
If it's winning National titles, I suspect your pretty off
Couple ways to think about that
Percentage of coaches that have accomplished some benchmark
How often they've accomplished some benchmark
Variability by coach
Either way, if Texas and ND are the two best jobs, they haven't been, at least recently for the coaches that have actually had those jobs
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:06 PM Author: Lascivious Vengeful Casino Traditionally, ease of recruiting elite talent there is considered the most important criterion on this rating, hence Texas being #1 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765162) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:10 PM Author: judgmental market partner Bama under Saban is #1 on this metric and OSU under Urban #2. Texas is not on that level of recruiting, but that is in part due to the lack of recent on-field success. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765198) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:16 PM Author: Startling Forum To be fair, maybe Saban and Meyer make where ever they are a good job (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765266) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:28 PM Author: judgmental market partner No doubt. But both of those schools have tremendous built-in recruiting advantages. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765365) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:13 PM Author: Startling Forum I'm not sure they can count on being able to protect their giant state as well as other schools are able to protect their smaller states
You sure being the biggest of 5 power schools in Texas plus a ton of schools from states trying to raid you is better than being the only power 5 school in a state like Louisiana or Ohio?
If it is, they haven't shown it on the field |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:28 PM Author: judgmental market partner Not recently, I agree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765370) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:07 PM Author: judgmental market partner Financial resources and support, national relevance, recruiting, tradition, recent on-field success. |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:09 PM Author: judgmental market partner See below. Both Texas and ND rate extremely highly on national relevance. All of these top-15 tend to have top-recruiting classes every year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765187) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:19 PM Author: Startling Forum ND is hugely relevant nationally, but I wouldn't say that's an easy place to recruit as well as you need to go exceed expectations there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765292) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:29 PM Author: judgmental market partner Not nearly what is used to be, but they still recruit well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765374) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:07 PM Author: Mint Set Ceo Lol at Nebraska. That’s a shit job and has been for over a decade. Recruiting is harder than ever, they have direct rivals with more resources, and a booster/fan base that still thinks it’s 1980 and a 10 win season is their birthright. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765177) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:09 PM Author: judgmental market partner It's definitely one of the biggest trap jobs, I agree. Boosters think they are still blue bloods. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765192) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:30 PM Author: filthy double fault boltzmann Can’t get dem Texas recruits anymore (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765379) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:12 PM Author: judgmental market partner They used to recruit nationally. Less now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765627) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:13 PM Author: Irradiated preventive strike They still recruit Nationally. People ignore their actual recruiting results, which are better than most think. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765643) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:18 PM Author: judgmental market partner Right, but top-20ish recruiting average isn't good for a school I think is a top-15 job. They are obviously in decline relative to an admittedly very strong history. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765674) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:29 PM Author: Irradiated preventive strike It is all relative to their competition. Their recruiting wouldn't cut it in the SEC West, but should enable them to dominate the Big Ten West. And if they start winning big, their recruiting would really pick up. They had loads of top WR/CB recruits before their season started falling apart. The right coach can recruit like a top-15 program and win like a top-ten program at Nebraska. Can't say that at many other schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765740) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 10:09 AM Author: adventurous gay boiling water dilemma there was a time long ago when minnesota was a top program and ohio state an afterthought. times change. wisconsin had a long period as a doormat when nebraska was a top program. problem is: how many years can nebraska be moribund before it loses any recruiting advantage it may have in the big ten west. i think wisconsin is the new nebraska and nebraska may be on the road to permanent iowa or, may e, minnesota status. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34767499) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:42 PM Author: Histrionic garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765466) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:51 PM Author: Irradiated preventive strike Nebraska's five year recruiting average is 22nd in the country - the next closest team in their division is nearly 40th. The right coach should dominate the Big Ten West at Nebraska. They have one of the biggest advantages versus their division rivals in the P5. It is still an elite job because of the division they are in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765517) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:13 PM Author: judgmental market partner What advantage is that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765634) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:14 PM Author: Irradiated preventive strike The fact they can outrecruit everyone in their division by a wide margin every year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765649) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:27 PM Author: judgmental market partner Their division is very bad, but Wisconsin has dominated recently. Wisc is clearly the class of the division. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765726) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:31 PM Author: Irradiated preventive strike Nebraska lost in overtime at Wisconsin last year and on a last second field goal the year before that. Nebraska was ranked in the top-ten for a month last year. The gap isn't as big as you think. Nebraska has a young team, a lot of injuries and an all new defensive scheme that didn't suit their personnel. Plus a shitty new QB. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765762) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:40 PM Author: judgmental market partner The more I see, the more I think I probably should drop Nebraska to the top 20-25 tier. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765828) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:41 PM Author: judgmental market partner A team like A&M dominates recruiting vs. somewhere like Nebraska. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765834) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:31 PM Author: concupiscible elastic band Georgia? Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765386) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:13 PM Author: judgmental market partner Elite recruiting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765639) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:40 PM Author: concupiscible elastic band (DJ Shockley) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765823) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:31 PM Author: spectacular rebellious legend stain Notre Dame way too high. Don't they have academic standards such that they can't just take any moron who is good at football. No obvious prime recruiting ground for them to own.
I think Bama is overrated because of the Saban factor. That job doesn't have the same advantages as UT, UF, USC/UCLA, etc.
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:40 PM Author: flesh talented theater stage shitlib ND still manages to recruit well. Ton of NFL talent in recent years. Largely for the same reason it’s an appealing coaching job... If you’re any good at all, you play every game on network prime time and get the hype train rolling down hill quick. Even without a CCG, you are guaranteed a playoff spot if undefeated and have a decent shot with 1 loss. You’ll never be overlooked there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765447) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:14 PM Author: judgmental market partner Bama has better recruiting than all but a few schools even without Saban. They have been a national title level program for decades.
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:18 PM Author: excitant lodge Bama has shown a willingness to do whatever it has to do to keep their football program at the top, plus it has a good recruiting area. The sheer dominance since Saban has been there only comes from a combination of outstanding recruiters, coaches and a very supportive school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765671) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 12:32 AM Author: judgmental market partner Agree. They don't command eyeballs nationally like peak ND, however, and they don't have the resources of Texas. Last one is more debatable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34766191) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:34 PM Author: Up-to-no-good Startled National Security Agency University Texas too high. Georgia a little too high... gave them too much credit for recent success. But prob still too 15. Nebraska shouldn’t be on here anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765406) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:14 PM Author: judgmental market partner Who would you add to the list? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765647) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:41 PM Author: concupiscible elastic band Oregon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765829) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:51 PM Author: excitant lodge Oregon rode the Nike wave for all it's worth. I think they peaked. The equipment tech isn't turning heads anymore. They had everything going for them when it was Nike and the new stuff plus the most innovative coach in the sport. Now they're just a program with no recruiting base that has waning appeal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765911) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 12:02 AM Author: concupiscible elastic band Phil Knight is still spending big bucks, They have the #1 recruiting class in the country currently lined up for next year and Herbert is probably the best QB in college football. If Taggart can actually coach and not just recruit (who knows) they should be back on top soon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765975) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 12:20 AM Author: excitant lodge #1 for 2019? That's completely irrelevant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34766115) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 12:33 AM Author: judgmental market partner Oregon is in the 15-20 tier. They haven't been very good for the past 5 or so years and they don't have a good recruiting base. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34766202) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 1:27 AM Author: concupiscible elastic band they played in the national championship game 3 years ago dude (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34766477) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 1:30 AM Author: judgmental market partner That's why they were nearly ranked. They are in a recruiting wasteland. Without Nike support they wouldn't sniff the top-50. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34766494) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 1:31 AM Author: judgmental market partner Most national fans don't even watch the games. Too late. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34766503) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 1:51 AM Author: concupiscible elastic band the PNW is producing a lot of prep talent lately. and they recruit bigly in california and florida https://www.scout.com/Season/2018-Football/ScoutTeamRankings (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34766591) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 1:56 AM Author: judgmental market partner Please stop. This isn't credible. They have a very nice class coming in, but I question how long it lasts. You cannot compare Oregon to anywhere in the south or southeast in terms of recruiting. There are several strong schools in CA. UW is better than Oregon currently. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34766613) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 10:43 PM Author: Histrionic garrison FSU way too low (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765469) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:01 PM Author: Irradiated preventive strike FSU is the best job in the country. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765578) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:15 PM Author: judgmental market partner Jimbo seems keen to leave. No, FSU is not the best job in the country, and there is a ton of competition in FL. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765654) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:18 PM Author: Irradiated preventive strike Perhaps the easiest recruiting in the country and you don't have to compete in the SEC. Lots of coaches could win big there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765672) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:20 PM Author: judgmental market partner ACC isn't a cupcake, Miami and UCF (and even South Florida) are on the rise. It's an outstanding job, but I can't move it up much more. Where do you rank it? Who moves down? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765680) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:20 PM Author: judgmental market partner I could perhaps move it up to #6. No higher. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765683) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:30 PM Author: Histrionic garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765747) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:00 PM Author: Irradiated preventive strike Coaching desirability should be based on pay and ease of winning with the least amount of headaches (insane boosters and expectation). Under this criteria, I think FSU, Ohio State, and USC are the top three jobs. Would hate to deal with SEC boosters and having to beat Saban. ND has too many limitations and a crazy schedule every year. UT has insane boosters and expectations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765573) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:16 PM Author: judgmental market partner This is a different criteria, but you make good points. Still, top coaches are going to think they will transcend the BS and they want to be tested against the "best" -- look at Bilema leaving a dominant Wisc program for Arkansas, for example.
The SEC is no longer by far the best conference, but it is still top tier. Especially the west. |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:01 PM Author: Hairraiser becky lettuce In a vacuum, LSU would be the best. Louisiana has the most five stars per capita,a lot of kids want to stay nearby, and its right next to East Texas. Recent and distant history show that its more complicated than that, but Miles always had sick talent at least. Crazy and unreasonable fan base though.
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:02 PM Author: Irradiated preventive strike Boosters ruin it and you have to beat Saban. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765582) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:17 PM Author: judgmental market partner The unreasonably fan base is true of most of these schools. LSU probably not one of the worst on that metric -- they have Coach O, after all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765669) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 9:57 AM Author: boyish sinister abode This is correct.
If LSU could seal off the state border and then go out of state each year to find a QB, it would be unstoppable. Gary Patterson has basically made his career by succesfully recruiting northwest Louisiana (especially Monroe). This analysis also applies to a lesser extent to Georgia. The only shortcoming in Louisiana high school football is QB play.
The state of Alabama doesn’t produce enough elite talent to sustain one major program let alone two upper tier programs. The head coach of Alabama and Auburn will always be dependent on Georgia/Mississippi/Louisiana kids to fill out his roster.
U. of Texas faces two major problems: As Texas high school football has shifted to spread attacks, dominant defensive line play has become less important. Second, way too much competition in state and from out of state. Lots of Texas high school teachers/coaches with an affinity for other in state and out of state schools. UT students/alums are more in the mold of coastal elites and they don’t seem to teach/coach in the inner cities/non-DFW/Hou/Austin/San Antonio areas. I used to ref high school sports and lots of high school athletic departments were dominated by non-UT alums. By contrast, in Louisiana and every kid has been indoctrinated to Geaux Tigers and only Geaux Tigers since birth. |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 10:56 AM Author: Curious bisexual range Cr. I also think that the Mississippi schools are underrated for the same reason. Lots of blacks. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34767794) |
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Date: November 24th, 2017 11:59 PM Author: Useless Citrine Water Buffalo Library I see Miami (FL). What about Miami (OH)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34765962) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 12:03 AM Author: Multi-colored office trump supporter :_(
You guys are looking at this wrong - ease of recruiting, realistic expectations, resources and pay should be the considerations
Schools like Virginia Tech (recruiting monopoly in VA), Stanford (chill fanbase, endowed athletic department), Alabama (tons of talent across SE, now the richest football program, it should do well post Saban) rank high here. ND, TX, USC, UCLA, etc are all wrong because they face too much competition and the fans are ridiculous |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 12:30 AM Author: judgmental market partner VT not in the top 30. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34766185) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 1:31 AM Author: Lascivious Vengeful Casino Michigan is another place where every coach will eventually be ruined by boosters with insane expectations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34766501) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 1:32 AM Author: judgmental market partner This definitely seems to be true. I struggled to rank them. That they got Harbaugh, however, is big -- even if he has history there. That's a bigtime hire. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34766509) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 1:33 AM Author: Lascivious Vengeful Casino boosters are gonna be turning on Harbaugh soon, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34766516) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 1:35 AM Author: judgmental market partner I don't think so, but not my school. I think he's got at least another 3-4 years. They were pretty bad recently. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34766524) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 1:36 AM Author: judgmental market partner What do you think of the Oklahoma ranking? Surprised I haven't got more heat for that one. I'm iffy myself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34766528) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 1:37 AM Author: Lascivious Vengeful Casino They consistently recruit well. Dunno how they do it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34766532) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 1:40 AM Author: judgmental market partner super mega shady (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34766545) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 10:58 AM Author: excitant lodge I feel like of late, coaches are focusing much more on jobs where recruiting doesn't require tons of travel and talent is local. At the same time, you're not seeing as much leaving a power 5 job to take a better power 5 job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34767803) |
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Date: November 25th, 2017 11:00 AM Author: fighting area Yawn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3808067&forum_id=2#34767813) |