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Date: December 10th, 2017 12:50 AM Author: Histrionic Sexy Digit Ratio im pretty lazy and take shortcuts. but im a decent lawyer and excellent in mediations, etc. how much of calishitlawguru's job is hustling new clients vs. doing legal research, writing briefs, going to trial? i hate the traditional legal work, but enjoy the "business" side of law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34880166) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 12:49 AM Author: Citrine Passionate Party Of The First Part Death Wish The majority of my job is bringing in business and organizing files/tasks for my paralegals to work on. I do virtually no real legal work. I can't remember the last time I wrote a brief or motion. One of my paralegals drafts all my complaints and discovery now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887832) |
Date: December 10th, 2017 1:10 PM Author: Histrionic Sexy Digit Ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34882447) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 1:12 PM Author: fragrant violet forum lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34882463) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 1:20 PM Author: Cocky hateful shrine ceo If you can do the business side successfully you can maek it in law. The question is rly why would you want to do law as opposed to a biz that scales (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34882516) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 6:46 PM Author: mewling range toaster if you don't have legit capital ability to scale is kind of a moot point. we cant all be scamcoin inventors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34885095) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:16 AM Author: Vivacious massive nowag Bro scamcoins require almost 0 start up capital, have raised ridiculous sums of money with just vaporware and scale more or less instantly if you build them out on an already existing platform? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887904) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 6:43 PM Author: Histrionic Sexy Digit Ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34885068) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 6:49 PM Author: Sinister elastic band No. It’s pretty clear he hustles both in business and court and figured out how To automate as much of that as possible. |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 6:51 PM Author: Slimy Vermilion Giraffe yeah its a 50/50 shot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34885128) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 6:52 PM Author: motley clear persian police squad It still just seems dumb to leave the prestige world and enter competition with the hoardes of other solo practioners. Maybe all of these people are dumb but many of them are grinders. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34885137) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 7:20 PM Author: Histrionic Sexy Digit Ratio but im in the "prestige" world in a very prestigious position for my class year and only making 250k all-in. my boss who has 18 more years of experience than me, is probably making 450-500k. at some point, you begin to realize that prestige is a load of shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34885319) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 7:23 PM Author: motley clear persian police squad Believe me, I hear you. But leaving the cozy confines of the prestige barriers to entry seems like entering the vicious world of prole life or death competition.
I also think there are very few biglawyers making more than 500k |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 7:24 PM Author: Rusted pocket flask you need to have the right personality, which i doubt many on this forum have
if you're aspie, you won't make it as a solo |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 7:26 PM Author: motley clear persian police squad Yea but the masses from shitty law school are just as likely if not more so to be likeable/personable. So you are abandoning competitive advantage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34885358) |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 7:24 PM Author: Rusted pocket flask and peterman, a secretary making 75/year, has almost 1MM NW
LJL |
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Date: December 10th, 2017 7:26 PM Author: Slimy Vermilion Giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34885356) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 12:37 AM Author: Histrionic Sexy Digit Ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887804) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 12:40 AM Author: Chocolate heady patrolman affirmative action He is Jewish. I am sure he has connections and mentoring that helped him out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887812) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 12:49 AM Author: Citrine Passionate Party Of The First Part Death Wish Actually, my parents haven't referred me a single case in 7 years. I did have mentors though and that helped a lot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887838) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:19 AM Author: Dun Mildly Autistic Black Woman Garrison Does the Jewishness help for networking / getting business ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887913) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:24 AM Author: Citrine Passionate Party Of The First Part Death Wish Not really. Some minorities actively seek out a Jewish attorney (specifically black clients), but that is pretty rare. I had one client whose e-mail was NAME1488@gmail.com and he hired me even though it came up I was Jewish in conversation.
My last name is not overtly Jewish and I meet like 5% of my clients. Almost all my signups are done over the phone/e-mail. |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:32 AM Author: Cyan Indian Lodge Community Account you've only ever met ~5% of your clients in person? that seems insane (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887957) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:34 AM Author: Citrine Passionate Party Of The First Part Death Wish Why? Almost every client is a personal referral from a former client. They call in, I vet the case, my paralegal takes down all the relevant info, we send them e-sign docs while on the phone, and then we get them booked with the doctor on a three-way call. Once they are off the phone, they just treat until I send a demand. Why do I need to meet them? Plus clients love the convenience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887959) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:38 AM Author: Cyan Indian Lodge Community Account defending their depos? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887966) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:41 AM Author: Citrine Passionate Party Of The First Part Death Wish I settle 85% or so pre-lit (I have about 300 cases and 40-50 in lit at any given time). A bunch of my lit files never make it to depo. For example, the case I had with Chandler, they made an offer of ZERO prelit. I filed a lawsuit and it settled before Chandler even filed an answer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887970) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:45 AM Author: Cyan Indian Lodge Community Account jfc amazing hustle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887975) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 6:45 PM Author: Chartreuse Casino Multi-billionaire How did you establish your relationships with the docs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34893130) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 6:46 PM Author: Citrine Passionate Party Of The First Part Death Wish It's not hard. Docs are dying to get business from personal injury bros. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34893138) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 12:53 AM Author: milky headpube locale the path to financial success as a solo is either 1) become so much of an in-demand expert in your niche that you can command sky-high (six figure plus per engagement) fees or 2) do as little actual legal work as possible and leverage professional staff; spend all of your time generating business and growing your staff as needed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887846) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 12:59 AM Author: Citrine Passionate Party Of The First Part Death Wish Really, the hardest part is just getting people through the door. That's way more important than being a good lawyer. Some of the most successful lawyers I know are terrible. They are just incredible rainmakers. If you happen to ALSO be a good lawyer... to the moon! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887855) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:08 AM Author: insecure water buffalo Why not take a big plaintiffs-side case every now and then? Do you just refer those out? What are the fee-splitting / referral fee rules in your state? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887884) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:14 AM Author: Citrine Passionate Party Of The First Part Death Wish Actually, I only do plaintiff's side work. My practice is 100% plaintiff's side contingency work (personal injury). My seven/eight figure cases I bring in heavy hitter trial attorneys (Mike Alder, Nick Rowley, Brian Panish, etc). My split with them is 50/50 on fees and they pay 100% of costs. I have a bunch of seven figure cases and two eight figure cases with that type of arrangement.
It's nearly impossible to make more than 500-600k as a lawyer doing hourly work. The richest lawyers have contingency practices. |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:19 AM Author: insecure water buffalo I know you only do P-side PI contingent fee cases. You said most of your work is car accidents. What are the 7-8 figure cases--the causes of action? Are you standby counsel? JFC at 50/50 split. Do you have to do anything to work them up? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887912) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:22 AM Author: Citrine Passionate Party Of The First Part Death Wish My 7-8 figure cases are car accidents too. I have a few class actions that I split with a friend, but the arrangement is the same. My big cases are mostly spinal fusion surgeries and traumatic brain injury. I don't know what you mean by standby counsel, but no I don't have to do any work when I associate in these heavy hitters. I can do as little or as much work in the case as I want. My name is still on the pleadings and I "second chair" the trial. I make sure that all communication still goes through me though to maintain the relationship with the client. I also make sure to defend the client's depo (and prep them) so I have visibility with the client. As far as the client is concerned, I am lead counsel. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887926) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:26 AM Author: insecure water buffalo Ah, okay. I actually meant are they standby counsel -- as in, do they just come in if it goes to trial. But it seems like you don't associate unless you know it ain't settling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887935) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:29 AM Author: Citrine Passionate Party Of The First Part Death Wish I will bring them in before trial sometimes. Just having the name attached to the case can more than double the value. So if I can get an earlier settlement and my fees are the same, why would I not bring them in?
For example, if I mediate a case and Mike Alder is sitting in the room, it may settle for $2 mil instead of $1 mil, just because defense knows that it will actually go to trial and there is significant exposure. |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:26 AM Author: sapphire cerebral marketing idea private investor OK i looked at the brian panish's website and he is a super lawyer and legit. but explain how he pulled this off
"a $17 million jury verdict for a 84-year old man hit by a bus resulting in a leg amputation"
i thought the amount of money depended on your earning potential and amount of care needed for lifetime. this amount seems ridiculous based on the meager information we know - 84 year old man losing a leg (or two). i could see 17.5M for a child thats paralyzed for life |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:27 AM Author: Dun Mildly Autistic Black Woman Garrison *briefly contemplates if I would be willing to lose leg for $17 MM* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887938) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:27 AM Author: Citrine Passionate Party Of The First Part Death Wish Pain and suffering, brother. The great trial attorneys just know how to get people to pay crazy money for it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887939) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:29 AM Author: sapphire cerebral marketing idea private investor are those uncapped? i can see a 35~45 year old productive individual getting ~10M for loss of both legs
he must be a GOAT lawyer to get that for a 84 year old dood |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:31 AM Author: Citrine Passionate Party Of The First Part Death Wish No cap. Also, he is not the GOAT. That goes to Nick Rowley (by the way I have a brain damage case I'm co-counseling with this dude. 50% of the fees go to me. May be my retirement case):
http://edharperlaw.com/blog/2010/2/young_lawyer_get/
http://www.czrlaw.com/nick-rowley-wins-10-million-verdict-in-wrongful-death-case/ |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:37 AM Author: sapphire cerebral marketing idea private investor 180. good luck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887963) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:40 AM Author: insecure water buffalo Lol at that firm hiring that journalist Stephen Glass. Would he be a trial lawyer masterman if could pass character and fitness? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887968) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:15 AM Author: sapphire cerebral marketing idea private investor simple answer: no
his biggest strength is his hustle |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:26 AM Author: Aphrodisiac pit Course not. JFC. Dumbass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887937) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:29 AM Author: turquoise tank his holiday party pics tell you all you need to know.
dude was not only jacked as fuck, but he had shit tons of clients and employees attending, and MC'ed the whole thing.
i read that to mean he's disciplined as fuck, outgoing, and organized. |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:30 AM Author: sapphire cerebral marketing idea private investor the question is then what is he doing on XO the land of unfulfilled potential and undisciplined lazy bums (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887947) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:34 AM Author: turquoise tank collecting 180s and making friends i guess. i heard he invites other handsome poaster bros over to his LA mansion for ritualistic suck and fuck sessions. very prestigious shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887960) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:38 AM Author: Citrine Passionate Party Of The First Part Death Wish I am constantly expanding my social network/reach. XO is just another place to make good connections. There are actually a lot of good dudes on this site and I have already made great connections/gotten referrals from members. I even had a case against Chandler that recently got settled. If you just add value to peoples life without asking for anything in return, you will be successful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887965) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:41 AM Author: sapphire cerebral marketing idea private investor cr
have you been poasting here for a long time? what did you do before you went solo |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:44 AM Author: Citrine Passionate Party Of The First Part Death Wish Lurker since 2007. Just started posting a few years ago. This is the first time I posted this but my last job before going solo was working for a lawyer who is super famous on XO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887974) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:45 AM Author: sapphire cerebral marketing idea private investor "lawyer who is super famous on XO"
EPAH? thats the only guy I can think of who works in your domain |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 1:49 AM Author: Citrine Passionate Party Of The First Part Death Wish Not him and I said he is famous on XO, not that he posts much if any. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34887988) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 4:52 PM Author: motley clear persian police squad what the fuck was this mega twist to the CSLG saga (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34892474) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 4:57 PM Author: Cocky hateful shrine ceo In a way he is the most xo boss you could imagine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34892523) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 5:00 PM Author: motley clear persian police squad who is famous on xo but doesnt poast much if any. what a riddle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34892550) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 5:16 PM Author: Maniacal White National I am fairly sure I know who you are talking about. It is pretty hilarious if it is him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34892674) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 5:27 PM Author: Citrine Passionate Party Of The First Part Death Wish E-mail me your guess and I'll confirm if true. Many poasters already know the answer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34892753) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 5:31 PM Author: Maniacal White National sent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34892771) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 6:08 PM Author: Startled resort i know who it is and it's hilarious. CSLG is the fucking man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34892997) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 7:21 PM Author: Thirsty wrinkle WTF how do I not know at all who this is?! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34893399) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 4:56 PM Author: Soggy ticket booth calishitlawguru, what is the best way to get in touch with you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34892512) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 5:27 PM Author: Citrine Passionate Party Of The First Part Death Wish calishitlawguru@gmail.com (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34892748) |
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Date: December 11th, 2017 6:46 PM Author: Fuchsia codepig center dictating an email to my secretary right now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3823448&forum_id=2#34893137) |