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BUILD THE WALL or START OUT SMALL?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-s-border-...
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  12/13/17
GO **STRONG** ON CUTTING TAXES, CUTTING OBAMACARE, AND "...
Useless Knife Macaca
  12/13/17
Trump just got a call from Mexico - they said the check is i...
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  12/13/17
Aaaany day now...
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  12/14/17
Ok, it should be here tomorrow or the next day.
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  12/20/17
Looking more like Monday, but it may roll due to the holiday...
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  12/21/17
Just heard back from Mexico - looks like it was an error in ...
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  05/02/18
Just heard back from Jose, and, well you wouldn't believe it...
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  07/18/18
Funny story - there is actually a bit of a cash crunch right...
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  12/29/18
Yeeeaaaaaaa.... about that check
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  01/24/19
Smaller than Trump's moobs?
house-broken tattoo
  12/14/17
you think daca will get legalized without some wall funding?...
clear stead internal respiration
  12/20/17
I don't actually care kek
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  12/21/17
It’s ok. The mine field will be much cheaper.
Fiercely-loyal Wine Patrolman
  12/20/17
But Mexico is still paying for it, so I'd say, since they ar...
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  12/21/17
Shit I’ll sell my bags and pay for a mine field
Fiercely-loyal Wine Patrolman
  12/21/17
Are you Mexican? If not, just sell your bags and buy crypto
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  12/21/17
ljl my bags are crypto. But yeah I’m buying more crypto bloo...
Fiercely-loyal Wine Patrolman
  12/21/17
I think if this blockchain shit keeps up you may be able to ...
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  12/21/17
Aaaany day now. You can tell, they are so paying for it. The...
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  03/02/18
That was a 180 call
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  03/02/18
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Wall construction underway in San Diego and El Paso!
Bisexual Stain Puppy
  08/16/18
So, starting out small then?
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  08/16/18
? The wall is being built. So no, not starting out small.
Bisexual Stain Puppy
  08/16/18
Sounds really small so far. I hear big stretches will be inv...
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  08/23/18
The parts he said didn't need a wall?
Bisexual Stain Puppy
  08/23/18
The parts that there's no funding for?
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  08/23/18
Right now or never ever in a billion years?
Bisexual Stain Puppy
  08/23/18
How about in this term
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  08/23/18
Part of that still counts as the future.
Bisexual Stain Puppy
  08/23/18
Hot take
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  08/24/18
Relevant: https://youtu.be/uvHN4XIFx6Q
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
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Oh look Jew humor ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Bisexual Stain Puppy
  08/23/18
It's kinda like this situation because there's nothing to sh...
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  08/23/18
Wall is going up in San Diego and El Paso. So no, not nothin...
Bisexual Stain Puppy
  08/23/18
Not much. Like I said, start out small
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  08/24/18
Glad we agree he's building the wall.
Bisexual Stain Puppy
  08/24/18
Glad we agree it's starting out small
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  08/24/18
You said "or".
Bisexual Stain Puppy
  08/24/18
I said start out small dummy
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  09/20/18
Wow this only took you a month. Maybe by three months from n...
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  12/29/18
Maybe. But I bet you still won't have that "Big Beautif...
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  12/29/18
It's already under construction.
Bisexual Stain Puppy
  12/29/18
Yea, on a small scale. Mostly fixing old shit, but sure. It'...
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  12/29/18
So the wall is being built.
Bisexual Stain Puppy
  12/29/18
It's starting out small. Your argument is like saying &q...
histrionic plaza antidepressant drug
  12/29/18
Your argument is that he's not building the wall when he is....
Bisexual Stain Puppy
  12/29/18
Starting out small, gotcha
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  01/10/19
He's building the wall so not sure why you're trying to excl...
Bisexual Stain Puppy
  01/10/19
Where's the money for the wall coming from?
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  01/24/19
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BUILD | THAT | WALL
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  08/16/18
start out small
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i think we could actually make Mexico pay for it, but that w...
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Why would Liberals not like us lowering crime in Mexico?
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  09/21/18
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Date: December 13th, 2017 3:23 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-s-border-wall-prototypes-are-complete-now-what-n815106

"there's another problem that will all-but-certainly add time: There is no funding for anything beyond the current prototype construction."

Don't worry, "Mexico will pay for it" ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#34910497)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 3:24 PM
Author: Useless Knife Macaca

GO **STRONG** ON CUTTING TAXES, CUTTING OBAMACARE, AND "DEREGULATION"!! GO "MUSCULAR"!! GO BIG!! RA-RA-RA!!!!

go....r.e..a....l.......small.....an..d...s...lo..w...on...... immigration....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#34910507)



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Date: December 13th, 2017 3:40 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Trump just got a call from Mexico - they said the check is in the mail!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#34910656)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 7:04 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Aaaany day now...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#34921381)



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Date: December 20th, 2017 2:41 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Ok, it should be here tomorrow or the next day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#34964208)



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Date: December 21st, 2017 11:34 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Looking more like Monday, but it may roll due to the holiday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#34981025)



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Date: May 2nd, 2018 3:16 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Just heard back from Mexico - looks like it was an error in their mail room; check mailer was marked "sent" and then was placed in incoming sort pile. They are sending it first thing tomorrow via FedEx, so we should have it Thursday. Thanks for your patience everyone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#35964361)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 12:53 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Just heard back from Jose, and, well you wouldn't believe it but the check was actually sent to the wrong address. Sounds like it was a transposition error - they stopped payment on the old check, cut a new one today, and we should see it later this week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36449801)



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Date: December 29th, 2018 2:32 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Funny story - there is actually a bit of a cash crunch right now - year end or something. I'm hearing that the billions of dollars needed to construct the wall will be sent by Mexican government officials early in the new year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#37490834)



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Date: January 24th, 2019 6:16 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Yeeeaaaaaaa.... about that check

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#37656075)



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Date: December 14th, 2017 7:07 PM
Author: house-broken tattoo

Smaller than Trump's moobs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#34921412)



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Date: December 20th, 2017 3:16 AM
Author: clear stead internal respiration

you think daca will get legalized without some wall funding?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#34964230)



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Date: December 21st, 2017 11:33 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

I don't actually care kek

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#34981013)



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Date: December 20th, 2017 3:18 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Wine Patrolman

It’s ok. The mine field will be much cheaper.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#34964232)



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Date: December 21st, 2017 11:34 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

But Mexico is still paying for it, so I'd say, since they are buying anyway, get the minefield and the wall. And some lasers!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#34981019)



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Date: December 21st, 2017 11:34 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Wine Patrolman

Shit I’ll sell my bags and pay for a mine field

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#34981024)



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Date: December 21st, 2017 11:36 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Are you Mexican? If not, just sell your bags and buy crypto

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#34981035)



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Date: December 21st, 2017 11:37 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Wine Patrolman

ljl my bags are crypto. But yeah I’m buying more crypto blood

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#34981043)



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Date: December 21st, 2017 11:44 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

I think if this blockchain shit keeps up you may be able to afford 'dat minefield. But I really think the check from Mexico should be here next week, so I'd hold those bags a lil longer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#34981124)



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Date: March 2nd, 2018 1:48 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Aaaany day now. You can tell, they are so paying for it. The aluminium tariff is just the first step.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#35518698)



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Date: March 2nd, 2018 1:49 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Wine Patrolman

That was a 180 call

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#35518706)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 1:36 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36242798)



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Date: March 2nd, 2018 1:48 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/376377-navy-corrects-fox-news-contributor-seals-did-not-test-trump-border

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#35518702)



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Date: July 26th, 2018 7:49 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/07/26/trumps-border-wall-may-soon-be-dead-its-another-sign-of-his-weakness/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36503943)



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Date: July 28th, 2018 12:28 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug



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Date: August 13th, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36611821)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 1:19 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36625104)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 2:10 AM
Author: Bisexual Stain Puppy

Wall construction underway in San Diego and El Paso!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36625209)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 2:11 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

So, starting out small then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36625212)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 2:12 AM
Author: Bisexual Stain Puppy

? The wall is being built. So no, not starting out small.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36625214)



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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:28 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Sounds really small so far. I hear big stretches will be invisible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36668196)



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Date: August 23rd, 2018 1:19 AM
Author: Bisexual Stain Puppy

The parts he said didn't need a wall?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36668631)



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Date: August 23rd, 2018 1:20 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

The parts that there's no funding for?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36668643)



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Date: August 23rd, 2018 1:22 AM
Author: Bisexual Stain Puppy

Right now or never ever in a billion years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36668676)



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Date: August 23rd, 2018 1:23 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

How about in this term

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36668685)



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Date: August 23rd, 2018 1:23 AM
Author: Bisexual Stain Puppy

Part of that still counts as the future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36668694)



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Date: August 24th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Hot take

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36675597)



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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:30 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Relevant: https://youtu.be/uvHN4XIFx6Q

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36668207)



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Date: August 23rd, 2018 1:19 AM
Author: Bisexual Stain Puppy

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36668636)



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Date: August 23rd, 2018 1:21 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

It's kinda like this situation because there's nothing to show for all of the talk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36668655)



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Date: August 23rd, 2018 1:23 AM
Author: Bisexual Stain Puppy

Wall is going up in San Diego and El Paso. So no, not nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36668687)



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Date: August 24th, 2018 12:06 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Not much. Like I said, start out small

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36675589)



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Date: August 24th, 2018 1:11 AM
Author: Bisexual Stain Puppy

Glad we agree he's building the wall.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36675828)



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Date: August 24th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Glad we agree it's starting out small

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36679618)



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Date: August 24th, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: Bisexual Stain Puppy

You said "or".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36680141)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 2:16 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

I said start out small dummy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36846762)



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Date: December 29th, 2018 2:26 AM
Author: Bisexual Stain Puppy

Wow this only took you a month. Maybe by three months from now you'll look at your own poast title.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#37490826)



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Date: December 29th, 2018 2:29 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Maybe. But I bet you still won't have that "Big Beautiful Wall"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#37490829)



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Date: December 29th, 2018 2:34 AM
Author: Bisexual Stain Puppy

It's already under construction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#37490836)



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Date: December 29th, 2018 2:36 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Yea, on a small scale. Mostly fixing old shit, but sure. It's a small start, but it's going to take a lot of money to get a BIG wall. Who's going to pay for it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#37490843)



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Date: December 29th, 2018 2:38 AM
Author: Bisexual Stain Puppy

So the wall is being built.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#37490847)



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Date: December 29th, 2018 2:42 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

It's starting out small.

Your argument is like saying "the sun is burning out". Sure it's burning out, but it might as well not be for as long as it's going to take.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#37490854)



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Date: December 29th, 2018 2:48 AM
Author: Bisexual Stain Puppy

Your argument is that he's not building the wall when he is. You put the "or" there, not me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#37490857)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 1:12 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Starting out small, gotcha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#37563925)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 7:11 AM
Author: Bisexual Stain Puppy

He's building the wall so not sure why you're trying to exclude that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#37564356)



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Date: January 24th, 2019 2:01 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Where's the money for the wall coming from?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#37652252)



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Date: January 25th, 2019 4:29 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

Sickly your response time is really lagging, please get ITT and tell me MOAR about the wall progress

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#37663035)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 2:13 AM
Author: Bistre talented people who are hurt parlor

BUILD | THAT | WALL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36625217)



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Date: August 23rd, 2018 12:28 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

start out small

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36668189)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 2:15 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

https://www.newsweek.com/border-wall-breach-tests-cbp-report-trump-cost-customs-failure-mexico-1128900

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36846758)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:32 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36860030)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:40 PM
Author: cheese-eating sienna ceo menage

i think we could actually make Mexico pay for it, but that would involve means that liberals would not be comfortable with. Like sending armed forces to establish a protective zone in Mexico and offer to return to the border if a wall is built.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36860064)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:42 PM
Author: Bateful chapel

Why would Liberals not like us lowering crime in Mexico?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#36860071)



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Date: December 29th, 2018 2:23 AM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug

So, capture part of Mexico and demand they pay us for its return? This is a SURE-FIRE plan, friend!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#37490818)



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Date: January 10th, 2019 7:05 AM
Author: Misanthropic Aphrodisiac Reading Party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#37564340)



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Date: January 24th, 2019 6:15 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3827781&forum_id=2#37656067)



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Date: January 24th, 2019 6:38 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug



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Date: January 25th, 2019 3:16 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug



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Date: January 25th, 2019 3:58 PM
Author: histrionic plaza antidepressant drug



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