Do you guys really let politics damper your enjoyment of a movie
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Date: December 17th, 2017 7:00 PM Author: house-broken prole
there's various learned neckbeard critiques from people who care about the movies and have serious criticisms from a fan perspective.
the thing is that the politics shit seems to have crowded out ACTUAL writing. like the writers looked at what they had, said "well we've got several STRONG WOMEN doing Things. our work is done" and then smoked weed. and forgot about world-building, coherence, character arcs, etc.
why don't you watch the film and engage with the Wisdom of the Neckbeards before I engage further
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832354&forum_id=2#34944058) |
Date: December 17th, 2017 6:45 PM Author: well-lubricated wonderful laser beams legal warrant
I believe it's libs who are forcing every movie, even silly fantasy movies, to adhere to their ideological purity requirements, thus making movies less fun for everyone else.
When you complain about this they call you a sexist man-baby or something (see Ghostbusters 2016: all criticisms were categorized as pure sexism by basement-dwellers). You fall into the same delusions, apparently.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832354&forum_id=2#34943950) |
Date: December 17th, 2017 6:47 PM Author: bat shit crazy gaping alpha
Yes, when overtly shitlib.
Degenerates in Hollyweird never not pushing degenerate agenda, yada yada
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832354&forum_id=2#34943960) |
Date: December 17th, 2017 8:07 PM Author: wild duck-like digit ratio
politicized kitschiness is terrible for fiction. erodes away at verisimilitude and breaks engagement with the work.
so, yeah, overt libshit can sully movies.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832354&forum_id=2#34944450) |
Date: December 18th, 2017 7:19 AM Author: Pea-brained water buffalo
Say you are a black man living in an overtly racist society; your parents were slaves, you work as a sharecropper, etc. You really enjoy fantasy novels, because they offer an escape from your days of toil and drudgery. One of your favorite books is "Galaxy Battles," because it has a message of optimism, growth, and the triumph (and struggle) of good over evil.
You learn there's going to be a Galaxy Battle movie, and you're excited. You buy tickets, you buy popcorn, but as you sit before the screen, something seems off. All of the evil characters are clueless sambos, even though there's nothing in the book to suggest they should be. The heroes are all white slavers, and a major point in the movie is the dignity and nobility of slavers lifting blacks up. Trite Uncle Remus humor pocks the movie--every five minutes, there's a lame pratfall or jape involving Rastee-P.O., a bot embodying all the racist stereotypes you encounter in your daily life. And the climax involves the white slaver protagonist giving his life to save a colony of slaves from ravening abolitionists (depicted as crazy people) who wanted to use them as a political sacrifice, with the hamfisted message that only slaveowners care about black people.
Miffed at your viewing experience (which is of a piece with every single movie you've seen that year) you get on the messageboard and lodge a complaint you would have enjoyed the movie more had it stuck to neutral themes disconnected from the racist tropes of the day. In response, poaster "Oh, You Travel...?" expresses incredulity that you "_really_ let _politics_ dampen your enjoyment of a movie?"
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Date: December 18th, 2017 11:17 AM Author: charcoal racy abode dysfunction
I haven't watched the movie, but I'd guess xo's issue is that politics is the tail wagging the dog for a movie like TLJ, in that decisions are being made in the film purely for political reasons that either hurt the storyline of the film or make it seem ridiculous. It's not the casting per se that xo takes issue with, but rather that it's consciously being done as an end in and of itself.
This is compounded because you have tons of movie critics ignoring issues with the actual movie like, oh idk, plot and character development, and instead championing the diverse cast and the use of women in masculine roles.
Compare to the first Star Wars trilogy -- I think you can actually make the argument that Leia was the STRONGEST character, and she was a great Princess and clearly cared for her people, but those decisions were made organically and were part of her character development. Likewise, you never really notice that Lando is black because you know that he wasn't cast just to have a black guy on screen -- he's just a cool character.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832354&forum_id=2#34948335) |
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