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>> Last year, at age 71, Gilman finally moved into her...
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then she should advocate for lower state and city taxes
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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:05 AM
Author: Zippy indirect expression market

https://www.marketplace.org/2018/01/09/economy/new-yorks-wealthy-balk-new-tax-law

Residents of New York City pay some of the highest taxes in the country. In exchange, they enjoy some of the richest services in America: a $10 billion police force, guaranteed shelter for the homeless, a public health care corporation and 24/7 public transit (when it works).

And the city’s tax system is especially progressive — the richer you are, the more you pay. In fact, NYC’s 1 percent — those people in the top income-earning percentile of the whole city — provide nearly half of the city’s $11 billion in personal income tax revenue.

Diane Gilman is one of them.

Born in California in 1945, Gilman moved to New York at age 30 and worked her way up in the fashion industry. She started off by selling women’s clothes at Bloomingdale’s and waitressing at night. Her career had its up and downs. She was almost 50 by the time she hit it big. That year, she was invited to sell her denim line on the Home Shopping Network (now QVC/HSN).

“It was beyond my wildest dreams,” Gilman said. “I’m now the longest-living fashion personality on teleretailing, 24 years. Almost a quarter of a century.”

Gilman said her line, DG2 by Diane Gilman, clears $100 million a year in retail sales, and that she takes home more than $1.5 million. Last year, at age 71, Gilman finally moved into her dream apartment — a penthouse on Fifth Avenue that overlooks Central Park.

“That was the real dream come true,” Gilman said. “And now Donald Trump wants to take it away from me.”

Under the new tax law, Gilman said she’ll pay nearly 20 percent more after taking a hit on state and local taxes and mortgage interest deductions. She knows how it sounds when she complains. “So a few snooty elites in New York and San Francisco have to pay more taxes,” she whines, mimicking a common conservative refrain. “Big deal. Who cares about them?”

As it turns out, her state and local governments care very much. In his State of the State address last week, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo called the tax law an “economic civil war.”

“This could cause people to leave the state of New York,” Cuomo said. “And it could reduce our ability to attract business.”

Bob Willens, a high-end tax layer in New York, said losing the full state and local tax deduction will raise taxes on the 1 percent by hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars. Willens said rich New Yorkers gripe and threaten to leave at any tax increase, but that the conversation this time around is more prevalent and more serious than he’s ever seen it.

“We’ve never had a situation quite like this one where such an important deduction was taken away,” Willens said.

And because the rich provide such a high proportion of New York’s tax revenue, even a few high-net-worth individuals leaving can be felt in local budgets. That’s before even the question of whether businesses, like Amazon, which is searching for its new “HQ2,” will now build or expand into high-tax communities.

Michael Jacobson at the City University of New York said beyond money leaving New York or deciding not to come here, the new tax law will have an unknown and cascading ripple effect on state and city revenue.

For one, Jacobson said, “people will be spending less money to make up for the additional taxes they have to pay.” That will reduce sales tax revenue.

A report from Moody’s Analytics predicts that because deductions on property taxes and mortgage interest have been limited, housing prices in Manhattan could drop nearly 10 percent next year. That also will hit property tax revenue and related income streams.

“It comes at you from so many directions that it can only be bad,” Jacobson said.

In response, governments will have to cut services or raise taxes. New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio has pushed hard for a so-called millionaire’s tax, but state lawmakers are already signalling they can no longer support it.

When I tell Diane Gilman that people in her tax bracket provide nearly half the city’s income tax revenue, she said she feels blessed. But at the end of the day, she still wants a lower tax bill.

“[De Blasio’s] gonna have a revolution on his hands if he raises taxes,” she said. So she’s exploring the idea of a new penthouse ... in Tampa.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35122261)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: federal bearded boistinker

To be fair,

So Trump literally has *NPR* shamelessly shilling for lower tax rates on the 1% via "sob stories" about aggrieved multi-millionaires who live in MFH penthouses?

I have to admit I never thought I would see this day. Jesus Christ, there's nothing that man can't do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35122276)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:14 AM
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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:21 AM
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Date: January 10th, 2018 10:24 AM
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Date: January 10th, 2018 11:07 AM
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Date: January 10th, 2018 11:07 AM
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Date: January 11th, 2018 8:47 AM
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Date: January 12th, 2018 8:50 AM
Author: Obsidian Mediation Clown

Cr lmao Pepe broke libs brains

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Date: January 12th, 2018 8:55 AM
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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: White pistol location

Ljl. We are supposed to feel sorry for these disgusting ppl?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35122271)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:10 AM
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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: irradiated kitchen stock car

IT'S ANODDA SHOAH!!!

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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: rose doobsian menage

(Oy Vey!)

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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:23 AM
Author: 180 karate range

Cough it up u scumbag boomer pieces of SHIT

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Date: January 10th, 2018 11:16 AM
Author: fluffy startling telephone



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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: Metal Lettuce

short and to the point. 180

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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:15 AM
Author: excitant misanthropic sandwich



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Date: January 10th, 2018 10:07 AM
Author: Zippy indirect expression market



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Date: January 10th, 2018 10:13 AM
Author: shivering center scourge upon the earth

>> Last year, at age 71, Gilman finally moved into her dream apartment — a penthouse on Fifth Avenue that overlooks Central Park.

“That was the real dream come true,” Gilman said. “And now Donald Trump wants to take it away from me.”

Under the new tax law, Gilman said she’ll pay nearly 20 percent more after taking a hit on state and local taxes and mortgage interest deductions. <<

Wait, wouldn't her mortgage interest deduction be grandfathered in? And even if it weren't, it would only be dropping from $1M to $750k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35123655)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 10:28 AM
Author: Razzmatazz infuriating resort puppy

Shhhhh.... facts aren’t relevant unless they support the narrative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35123769)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 10:29 AM
Author: Zippy indirect expression market

Funny thing is even libs who listen to NPR who live anywhere but in California, NYC, or Chicago won't even relate to this. Pretty sure they've been calling on the rich to pay more in taxes for years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35123779)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: Honey-headed Prole

She is grandfathered but I think she's really complaining about losing the deduction for the boatload of state and city taxes she pays.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35124440)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: jet-lagged abode marketing idea

+ the future drop in value of her home

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35124476)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:11 PM
Author: shivering center scourge upon the earth

then she should advocate for lower state and city taxes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35124545)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:29 AM
Author: Vibrant Hunting Ground Set

But then they would have to cut social services and programs

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Date: January 10th, 2018 11:05 AM
Author: bipolar digit ratio

"In exchange, they enjoy some of the richest services in America"



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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: maroon newt

"And because the rich provide such a high proportion of New York’s tax revenue, even a few high-net-worth individuals leaving can be felt in local budgets."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35124579)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: maroon newt

"A report from Moody’s Analytics predicts that because deductions on property taxes and mortgage interest have been limited, housing prices in Manhattan could drop nearly 10 percent next year. That also will hit property tax revenue and related income streams."

at least nyc doesn't sound entitled

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35124589)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 11:13 AM
Author: fluffy startling telephone

Gilman, Willens and Jacobson all agree: "Fuck Trump!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35124098)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: Sadistic racy base



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Date: January 10th, 2018 11:22 AM
Author: apoplectic wild field

1-80

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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: frisky dashing dysfunction



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Date: January 10th, 2018 11:23 AM
Author: jet-lagged abode marketing idea

didn't like a bunch of billionaires beg trump not to cut their taxes and he's like "okay you got it"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35124166)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 11:26 AM
Author: Unholy site

This is so dumb. Plenty of UMC people in the suburbs are getting fucked. Property taxes in NYC are low as hell in comparison.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35124186)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:00 PM
Author: fluffy startling telephone

Dat NYC city income tax tho

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Date: January 10th, 2018 11:27 AM
Author: thirsty chestnut halford

"she whines, mimicking a common conservative refrain"

that's conservative?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35124191)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 11:50 AM
Author: Honey-headed Prole

Her penthouse was a lot more than $1m numbuts. (It says she makes 1.5 a year, not that her apartment cost that much.)

Best I can tell it was $3.17 M.

https://streeteasy.com/property/871788-1255-5-avenue-phc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35124359)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: sooty histrionic parlour incel

and so we should feel at LEAST 3 times as bad that she won't get to live in a 3MM penthouse bc of mean old trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35124518)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: Exciting trust fund cumskin

clearly this changes the point the OP was making

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35124678)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 8:53 AM
Author: awkward irate community account casino

seems extremely cheap for a nyc penthouse overlooking the park

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131307)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:47 AM
Author: Honey-headed Prole

It’s in the 110s on the east side and apparently like an 800 foot 1br with some elaborate terraces. Also hoa is another $2,100 per month which is high for such a small condo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131491)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: awkward irate community account casino

lmao

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Date: January 12th, 2018 9:17 AM
Author: Obsidian Mediation Clown

Lmaooooo poor thing....double lol @ paying 2100+ every month forever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35138798)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: frisky dashing dysfunction

Libs, explain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35124479)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 12:30 PM
Author: beta sinister theatre hairy legs

I work hard. Put jean on table. And what he do? He tax.

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Date: January 10th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: Arrogant hospital



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Date: January 10th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: heady impressive blood rage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35126054)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:40 AM
Author: Curious nudist persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131470)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:48 AM
Author: peach twinkling uncleanness reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131499)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 1:45 PM
Author: Arrogant hospital

I stand in childlike wonder at how deranged he has made them. It's like being a kid again!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35125260)



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Date: January 12th, 2018 8:57 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Meetinghouse Roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35138749)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 1:49 PM
Author: Arrogant hospital

Also, if you being able to own something is contingent on one tax deduction, then your "ownership" was always tenuous at best.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35125286)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 1:51 PM
Author: Nighttime Love Of Her Life Dilemma

Cr. You gotta be kidding me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35125301)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 1:56 PM
Author: shivering center scourge upon the earth

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35125333)



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Date: January 10th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: sooty histrionic parlour incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35126156)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 8:47 AM
Author: flesh outnumbered chapel tank

My take away wasn't that she couldn't afford the apartment but that she was planning to leave NYC entirely to avoid the tax increase from the lost deductions - she mentions getting a Miami penthouse instead (Florida not having an income tax)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131295)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:08 AM
Author: shivering center scourge upon the earth

but again, her issue is with the high NY/NYC income taxes. your explanation would further illustrate that point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131360)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:38 AM
Author: flesh outnumbered chapel tank

agree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131457)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:33 AM
Author: house-broken shaky area

Tampa, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131440)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 8:53 AM
Author: awkward irate community account casino

preach

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131309)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:41 AM
Author: Curious nudist persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131472)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:48 AM
Author: peach twinkling uncleanness reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131502)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: Chest-beating whorehouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131513)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:53 AM
Author: maniacal pale old irish cottage chad

What about businesses that purchased capital equipment planning on the depreciation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131527)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 10:48 AM
Author: maroon newt

asshole telling poors to have fewer children

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131786)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:14 AM
Author: angry corner

"Residents of New York City pay some of the highest taxes in the country. In exchange, they enjoy some of the richest services in America: a $10 billion police force, guaranteed shelter for the homeless, a public health care corporation and 24/7 public transit (when it works)."

The more I think about SALT deductions the more furious I get. Such bullshit, I can't believe we allowed it for so long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131378)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:15 AM
Author: shivering center scourge upon the earth

I agree. I am as anti-tax as anyone, and even I support getting rid of SALT deductions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131382)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:17 AM
Author: angry corner

It' not a contradictory position because it indirectly increases state and local taxes and causes people in other states to pay more federal taxes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131395)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:16 AM
Author: sooty histrionic parlour incel

right there with you



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131389)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:17 AM
Author: awkward irate community account casino

i dont see any reasonable argument why we should have SALT deductions. im fine with people wanting higher taxes and better services, but they should bear the full brunt of those costs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131390)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:18 AM
Author: angry corner

ARE 5-STAR HOMELESS SHELTERS FOR EVERYONE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131397)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:23 AM
Author: shivering center scourge upon the earth

agree 100%

and by the same token, people should understand the full costs of their state and local governments, and should push back against those costs if they find them too high.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131406)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:50 AM
Author: Honey-headed Prole

That’s all fine but they should have planned this and given states some time to get their budgets under control so they could cut taxes. Now people are going to leave higher tax areas to the extent they can.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131507)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 10:51 AM
Author: maroon newt

make that argument in the private sector

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131800)



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Date: January 12th, 2018 9:18 AM
Author: drab idiotic house water buffalo

LJL at the idea of places like NYC cutting services and then cutting taxes IF ONLY we have them a year or two of warning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35138808)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:59 AM
Author: fluffy startling telephone

And that's why there are no homeless people on the streets of NYC! What a service!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131561)



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Date: January 12th, 2018 9:21 AM
Author: Obsidian Mediation Clown

Wtf is this public health care corporation ive been funding for a decade lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35138823)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:20 AM
Author: angry corner

When SALT deductions were still allowed could a state have hypothetically created a scheme like this? Would have been 180.

- Impose some kind of $2000 state flat tax on everyone. Would be deductible from federal income taxes.

- Give everyone a once a year "stimulus check" for $2000. Kind of like Alaska does.

Everyone would be paying $1300-$1800 for $2000; subsidized by are federal govt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131401)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:41 AM
Author: flesh outnumbered chapel tank

the stimulus check would be taxable income though, offsetting the deduction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131473)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 9:44 AM
Author: angry corner

fuck good point. There's gotta be another way.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131483)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 10:35 AM
Author: bossy school

just lol @ salt deduction welfare queens. get wrecked, niggers.

"but it's not FAIR bc I don't *want* to pay income taxes! I do want 24/7 transportation but I don't want to pay for it!"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131713)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 10:37 AM
Author: sooty histrionic parlour incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131721)



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Date: January 11th, 2018 10:41 AM
Author: Passionate toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35131736)



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Date: January 12th, 2018 8:42 AM
Author: excitant misanthropic sandwich

I want the rest of the country to subsidize my mobbed up unions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35138709)



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Date: January 12th, 2018 8:44 AM
Author: 180 karate range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35138721)



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Date: January 12th, 2018 9:01 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Meetinghouse Roommate

The article praises NYC for its “progressive” tax policy that makes the rich pay more.

Then becomes a sob story about how Trump’s tax plan will make a rich person pay more.

Is this the Onion?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35138761)



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Date: January 12th, 2018 9:22 AM
Author: Obsidian Mediation Clown



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35138826)



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Date: January 12th, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: Zippy indirect expression market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3854837&forum_id=2#35140430)