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Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America? [LATimes]

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-californi...
Dark codepig stage
  01/14/18
It’s as though welfare reform passed California by, leaving ...
Sepia Bull Headed Shrine Gaping
  01/14/18
Lose some weight, you fat faggot.
bright crackhouse place of business
  01/14/18
Many of these programs are not malicious and are well meanin...
Razzle-dazzle ocher brunch striped hyena
  01/14/18
and yet socialism always ends up the same way- a failure. ...
Sepia Bull Headed Shrine Gaping
  01/14/18
Lol. It's a vivid commentary on how fundamentally incompatib...
fishy exciting gunner
  03/19/18
(shitlib)
Hairraiser soggy round eye
  03/19/18
Socialism is what’s being indoctrinated to kiids not capital...
Drab plaza digit ratio
  03/19/18
ljl. Right, it's a really hard sell when socialists pretend...
Racy coffee pot location
  03/19/18
>> Any system ruled by political parties will always m...
spectacular theater alpha
  03/19/18
LJL if you think "political parties"--as opposed t...
fishy exciting gunner
  03/19/18
is this the future Biden was talking about?
honey-headed base police squad
  01/14/18
The California government needs to be deposed
Cerebral lilac faggotry potus
  01/14/18
lol how did this get published
Out-of-control multi-colored nursing home juggernaut
  01/14/18
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859064&mc=2...
walnut lascivious indian lodge
  01/14/18
San Francisco is literally infested with raving homeless peo...
Twinkling Wonderful Kitchen
  01/14/18
They'll still find a way to blame conservatives
Mewling death wish
  01/14/18
This is really an astonishing dynamic. The homeless populat...
Racy coffee pot location
  03/19/18
They did this in NYC under bloomberg and libs threw a fit. L...
Flesh Stage Haunted Graveyard
  03/19/18
Yeah. A liberal is a man too open-minded to take his own si...
Racy coffee pot location
  03/19/18
Odd case.
topaz soul-stirring ceo
  01/14/18
odd case
stimulating internal respiration
  03/19/18
also has the highest GDP of any state in the nation. go figu...
High-end ruddy roast beef
  03/19/18
It’s almost as if no amount of liberal redistribution can ev...
walnut lascivious indian lodge
  03/19/18
or negatively affect wealth
High-end ruddy roast beef
  03/19/18
But see above re poverty rate
stimulating internal respiration
  03/19/18
Almost as if recipients of social welfare spending are worse...
peach cracking university kitty cat
  03/19/18
lol more like it's almost as if ruling class technocrat wan...
puce mind-boggling love of her life dingle berry
  03/19/18
"California, with 12% of the American population, is ho...
primrose church
  03/19/18
holy fuck
Metal Useless Brakes Church Building
  03/19/18
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stimulating internal respiration
  03/19/18
Moths to a flame
walnut lascivious indian lodge
  03/19/18
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Light floppy fanboi
  03/19/18
titchwhs
puce mind-boggling love of her life dingle berry
  03/19/18
It’s probabky mostly weather, actually. Homeless people go w...
Magenta aggressive telephone center
  03/19/18
And they also go where the benefits are. That's why a c...
Racy coffee pot location
  03/19/18
it's almost like a welfare state + open borders is disastrou...
spectacular theater alpha
  03/19/18
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puce mind-boggling love of her life dingle berry
  03/19/18
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Wine exhilarant stag film jap
  03/19/18
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sick native hissy fit
  03/19/18
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Swashbuckling indigo blood rage volcanic crater
  03/19/18
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provocative chad private investor
  03/19/18
i have a feeling that if you could make this look a LOT wors...
Magenta aggressive telephone center
  03/19/18
...
Jet partner forum
  03/19/18
receiving welfare is one of the strongest indicators you vot...
Citrine Contagious Athletic Conference
  03/19/18
truth be told we shouldn't allow people who receive welfare ...
spectacular theater alpha
  03/19/18
Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and t...
Citrine Contagious Athletic Conference
  03/19/18
Yes California significantly subsidizes the South. Odd case...
demanding coral gas station main people
  03/19/18
Did you even read the article
Racy coffee pot location
  03/19/18


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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: Dark codepig stage

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153547)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:36 PM
Author: Sepia Bull Headed Shrine Gaping

It’s as though welfare reform passed California by, leaving a dependency trap in place. Immigrants are falling into it: 55% of immigrant families in the state get some kind of means-tested benefits, compared with just 30% of natives.

Self-interest in the social-services community may be at fault. As economist William A. Niskanen explained back in 1971, public agencies seek to maximize their budgets, through which they acquire increased power, status, comfort and security. To keep growing its budget, and hence its power, a welfare bureaucracy has an incentive to expand its “customer” base.

scum democrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153715)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: bright crackhouse place of business

Lose some weight, you fat faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154100)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle ocher brunch striped hyena

Many of these programs are not malicious and are well meaning, but they are not immune from trying to secure their own survival. Vicious cycle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154398)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: Sepia Bull Headed Shrine Gaping

and yet socialism always ends up the same way-

a failure.

there would be far fewer socialists here if our education system was better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154769)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: fishy exciting gunner

Lol. It's a vivid commentary on how fundamentally incompatible with human nature capitalism is when a substantial mass of the populace still prefers socialism in spite of the bourgeoisie's unrelenting efforts to indoctrinate them with a false consciousness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638679)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Hairraiser soggy round eye

(shitlib)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638742)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: Drab plaza digit ratio

Socialism is what’s being indoctrinated to kiids not capitalism. Moreover what we have today is not capitalism it’s a perverted mix of both.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: Racy coffee pot location

ljl. Right, it's a really hard sell when socialists pretend that free stuff is just another glorious socialist revolution away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638752)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: spectacular theater alpha

>> Any system ruled by political parties will always move to the left. Their business model is based on getting low status people to work for them. Obviously they must give them something in exchange. And they must motivate voters to vote for them. Their promise is simple: You, low status people, help us out, vote for us, obey our commands, and we will give you high status. Don’t vote for us, disobey us, let the right win, and you will remain low status. <<

https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2017/12/13/bioleninism-the-first-step/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638774)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: fishy exciting gunner

LJL if you think "political parties"--as opposed to those parties' corporate paymasters-- have run this country's political system to any extent over the last 40 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638935)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:38 PM
Author: honey-headed base police squad

is this the future Biden was talking about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153722)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: Cerebral lilac faggotry potus

The California government needs to be deposed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153834)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: Out-of-control multi-colored nursing home juggernaut

lol how did this get published

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153983)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:16 PM
Author: walnut lascivious indian lodge

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859064&mc=24&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153994)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: Twinkling Wonderful Kitchen

San Francisco is literally infested with raving homeless people shitting in the streets and shooting up in front of million dollar apartments and offices of multi billion dollar companies



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154124)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: Mewling death wish

They'll still find a way to blame conservatives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154717)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: Racy coffee pot location

This is really an astonishing dynamic. The homeless population is less than 1% of the city, yet the residents have collectively decided to completely cede the quality of their city to them. Imagine how much more pleasant SF would be if police actually enforced vagrancy laws and the government "encouraged" people to leave with free one way bus tickets out of town.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638483)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: Flesh Stage Haunted Graveyard

They did this in NYC under bloomberg and libs threw a fit. LJL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639653)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:23 PM
Author: Racy coffee pot location

Yeah. A liberal is a man too open-minded to take his own side in a fight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639799)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: topaz soul-stirring ceo

Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154744)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: stimulating internal respiration

odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638457)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: High-end ruddy roast beef

also has the highest GDP of any state in the nation. go figure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638463)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: walnut lascivious indian lodge

It’s almost as if no amount of liberal redistribution can ever solve poverty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638476)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: High-end ruddy roast beef

or negatively affect wealth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638494)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: stimulating internal respiration

But see above re poverty rate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638559)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: peach cracking university kitty cat

Almost as if recipients of social welfare spending are worse off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638497)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:53 PM
Author: puce mind-boggling love of her life dingle berry

lol

more like it's almost as if ruling class technocrat wannabe libs are only interested in redistribution as a rhetorical tool allowing them to accumulate power by whipping up the masses for votes

yielding little to no benefit for said masses bc an astonishing number of any funds taken for redistribution are lost to corruption and incompetence = feature, not bug

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638583)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: primrose church

"California, with 12% of the American population, is home today to about one in three of the nation's welfare recipients."

Haha. Wow. Holy shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638499)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Metal Useless Brakes Church Building

holy fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638503)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: stimulating internal respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638504)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: walnut lascivious indian lodge

Moths to a flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638552)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Light floppy fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638598)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: puce mind-boggling love of her life dingle berry

titchwhs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638604)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Magenta aggressive telephone center

It’s probabky mostly weather, actually. Homeless people go where it’s warm year round.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638736)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Racy coffee pot location

And they also go where the benefits are.

That's why a city or even a state can't fix homelessness-- even if they did, then new homeless would stream in.

It would be totally worth it for the federal government to build massive complexes where the land is cheap and, essentially, institutionalize the mentally ill, incarcerate the truly criminal, and just give cash and a place to get back on their feet to people who are truly just down on their luck. But between conservative unwillingness to spend money and shitlibs treating the homeless as a class above the law, this isn't anywhere close to happening. So here we sit, surrendering the quality of our cities for no good reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638762)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: spectacular theater alpha

it's almost like a welfare state + open borders is disastrous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638780)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: puce mind-boggling love of her life dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639147)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Wine exhilarant stag film jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: sick native hissy fit



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: Swashbuckling indigo blood rage volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638770)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: provocative chad private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638777)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: Magenta aggressive telephone center

i have a feeling that if you could make this look a LOT worse by limiting it to just SF and LA.

Like they combined have like 2% of the country's population and like 25% of the homeless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638874)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: Jet partner forum



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Citrine Contagious Athletic Conference

receiving welfare is one of the strongest indicators you vote dem. odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639164)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: spectacular theater alpha

truth be told we shouldn't allow people who receive welfare to vote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639728)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: Citrine Contagious Athletic Conference

Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639741)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: demanding coral gas station main people

Yes California significantly subsidizes the South. Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639174)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Racy coffee pot location

Did you even read the article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639294)