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Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America? [LATimes]

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-californi...
shivering crimson athletic conference lodge
  01/14/18
It’s as though welfare reform passed California by, leaving ...
heady sapphire parlor milk
  01/14/18
Lose some weight, you fat faggot.
Titillating primrose cruise ship ratface
  01/14/18
Many of these programs are not malicious and are well meanin...
Balding Resort Regret
  01/14/18
and yet socialism always ends up the same way- a failure. ...
heady sapphire parlor milk
  01/14/18
Lol. It's a vivid commentary on how fundamentally incompatib...
Bonkers incel
  03/19/18
(shitlib)
Swollen Chapel Son Of Senegal
  03/19/18
Socialism is what’s being indoctrinated to kiids not capital...
Insecure Crackhouse Travel Guidebook
  03/19/18
ljl. Right, it's a really hard sell when socialists pretend...
Motley Azure Sex Offender Abode
  03/19/18
>> Any system ruled by political parties will always m...
charcoal multi-billionaire
  03/19/18
LJL if you think "political parties"--as opposed t...
Bonkers incel
  03/19/18
is this the future Biden was talking about?
aqua alcoholic library chad
  01/14/18
The California government needs to be deposed
Copper out-of-control skinny woman base
  01/14/18
lol how did this get published
free-loading tanning salon nibblets
  01/14/18
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859064&mc=2...
cyan gas station
  01/14/18
San Francisco is literally infested with raving homeless peo...
razzmatazz alcoholic stage
  01/14/18
They'll still find a way to blame conservatives
Bipolar Vermilion Hissy Fit
  01/14/18
This is really an astonishing dynamic. The homeless populat...
Motley Azure Sex Offender Abode
  03/19/18
They did this in NYC under bloomberg and libs threw a fit. L...
cruel-hearted macaca hell
  03/19/18
Yeah. A liberal is a man too open-minded to take his own si...
Motley Azure Sex Offender Abode
  03/19/18
Odd case.
Olive gaming laptop school
  01/14/18
odd case
Pungent property really tough guy
  03/19/18
also has the highest GDP of any state in the nation. go figu...
green potus
  03/19/18
It’s almost as if no amount of liberal redistribution can ev...
cyan gas station
  03/19/18
or negatively affect wealth
green potus
  03/19/18
But see above re poverty rate
Pungent property really tough guy
  03/19/18
Almost as if recipients of social welfare spending are worse...
Charismatic emerald university mexican
  03/19/18
lol more like it's almost as if ruling class technocrat wan...
crystalline immigrant faggot firefighter
  03/19/18
"California, with 12% of the American population, is ho...
Burgundy pocket flask stage
  03/19/18
holy fuck
Crawly office
  03/19/18
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Pungent property really tough guy
  03/19/18
Moths to a flame
cyan gas station
  03/19/18
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painfully honest pea-brained antidepressant drug
  03/19/18
titchwhs
crystalline immigrant faggot firefighter
  03/19/18
It’s probabky mostly weather, actually. Homeless people go w...
Cracking lemon ticket booth
  03/19/18
And they also go where the benefits are. That's why a c...
Motley Azure Sex Offender Abode
  03/19/18
it's almost like a welfare state + open borders is disastrou...
charcoal multi-billionaire
  03/19/18
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crystalline immigrant faggot firefighter
  03/19/18
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Fishy stag film
  03/19/18
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Black Volcanic Crater
  03/19/18
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Stirring french trump supporter trailer park
  03/19/18
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cream floppy bawdyhouse cuckold
  03/19/18
i have a feeling that if you could make this look a LOT wors...
Cracking lemon ticket booth
  03/19/18
...
razzle-dazzle casino sweet tailpipe
  03/19/18
receiving welfare is one of the strongest indicators you vot...
talented piazza patrolman
  03/19/18
truth be told we shouldn't allow people who receive welfare ...
charcoal multi-billionaire
  03/19/18
Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and t...
talented piazza patrolman
  03/19/18
Yes California significantly subsidizes the South. Odd case...
Red Swashbuckling Pisswyrm Range
  03/19/18
Did you even read the article
Motley Azure Sex Offender Abode
  03/19/18


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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: shivering crimson athletic conference lodge

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153547)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:36 PM
Author: heady sapphire parlor milk

It’s as though welfare reform passed California by, leaving a dependency trap in place. Immigrants are falling into it: 55% of immigrant families in the state get some kind of means-tested benefits, compared with just 30% of natives.

Self-interest in the social-services community may be at fault. As economist William A. Niskanen explained back in 1971, public agencies seek to maximize their budgets, through which they acquire increased power, status, comfort and security. To keep growing its budget, and hence its power, a welfare bureaucracy has an incentive to expand its “customer” base.

scum democrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153715)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: Titillating primrose cruise ship ratface

Lose some weight, you fat faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154100)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: Balding Resort Regret

Many of these programs are not malicious and are well meaning, but they are not immune from trying to secure their own survival. Vicious cycle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154398)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: heady sapphire parlor milk

and yet socialism always ends up the same way-

a failure.

there would be far fewer socialists here if our education system was better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154769)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Bonkers incel

Lol. It's a vivid commentary on how fundamentally incompatible with human nature capitalism is when a substantial mass of the populace still prefers socialism in spite of the bourgeoisie's unrelenting efforts to indoctrinate them with a false consciousness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638679)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Swollen Chapel Son Of Senegal

(shitlib)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638742)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: Insecure Crackhouse Travel Guidebook

Socialism is what’s being indoctrinated to kiids not capitalism. Moreover what we have today is not capitalism it’s a perverted mix of both.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: Motley Azure Sex Offender Abode

ljl. Right, it's a really hard sell when socialists pretend that free stuff is just another glorious socialist revolution away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638752)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: charcoal multi-billionaire

>> Any system ruled by political parties will always move to the left. Their business model is based on getting low status people to work for them. Obviously they must give them something in exchange. And they must motivate voters to vote for them. Their promise is simple: You, low status people, help us out, vote for us, obey our commands, and we will give you high status. Don’t vote for us, disobey us, let the right win, and you will remain low status. <<

https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2017/12/13/bioleninism-the-first-step/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638774)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: Bonkers incel

LJL if you think "political parties"--as opposed to those parties' corporate paymasters-- have run this country's political system to any extent over the last 40 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638935)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:38 PM
Author: aqua alcoholic library chad

is this the future Biden was talking about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153722)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: Copper out-of-control skinny woman base

The California government needs to be deposed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153834)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: free-loading tanning salon nibblets

lol how did this get published

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153983)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:16 PM
Author: cyan gas station

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859064&mc=24&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153994)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: razzmatazz alcoholic stage

San Francisco is literally infested with raving homeless people shitting in the streets and shooting up in front of million dollar apartments and offices of multi billion dollar companies



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154124)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: Bipolar Vermilion Hissy Fit

They'll still find a way to blame conservatives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154717)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: Motley Azure Sex Offender Abode

This is really an astonishing dynamic. The homeless population is less than 1% of the city, yet the residents have collectively decided to completely cede the quality of their city to them. Imagine how much more pleasant SF would be if police actually enforced vagrancy laws and the government "encouraged" people to leave with free one way bus tickets out of town.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638483)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: cruel-hearted macaca hell

They did this in NYC under bloomberg and libs threw a fit. LJL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639653)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:23 PM
Author: Motley Azure Sex Offender Abode

Yeah. A liberal is a man too open-minded to take his own side in a fight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639799)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: Olive gaming laptop school

Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154744)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: Pungent property really tough guy

odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638457)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: green potus

also has the highest GDP of any state in the nation. go figure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638463)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: cyan gas station

It’s almost as if no amount of liberal redistribution can ever solve poverty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638476)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: green potus

or negatively affect wealth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638494)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Pungent property really tough guy

But see above re poverty rate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638559)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Charismatic emerald university mexican

Almost as if recipients of social welfare spending are worse off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638497)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:53 PM
Author: crystalline immigrant faggot firefighter

lol

more like it's almost as if ruling class technocrat wannabe libs are only interested in redistribution as a rhetorical tool allowing them to accumulate power by whipping up the masses for votes

yielding little to no benefit for said masses bc an astonishing number of any funds taken for redistribution are lost to corruption and incompetence = feature, not bug

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638583)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Burgundy pocket flask stage

"California, with 12% of the American population, is home today to about one in three of the nation's welfare recipients."

Haha. Wow. Holy shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638499)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Crawly office

holy fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638503)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Pungent property really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638504)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: cyan gas station

Moths to a flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638552)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: painfully honest pea-brained antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638598)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: crystalline immigrant faggot firefighter

titchwhs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638604)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Cracking lemon ticket booth

It’s probabky mostly weather, actually. Homeless people go where it’s warm year round.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638736)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Motley Azure Sex Offender Abode

And they also go where the benefits are.

That's why a city or even a state can't fix homelessness-- even if they did, then new homeless would stream in.

It would be totally worth it for the federal government to build massive complexes where the land is cheap and, essentially, institutionalize the mentally ill, incarcerate the truly criminal, and just give cash and a place to get back on their feet to people who are truly just down on their luck. But between conservative unwillingness to spend money and shitlibs treating the homeless as a class above the law, this isn't anywhere close to happening. So here we sit, surrendering the quality of our cities for no good reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638762)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: charcoal multi-billionaire

it's almost like a welfare state + open borders is disastrous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638780)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: crystalline immigrant faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639147)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Fishy stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: Black Volcanic Crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638768)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: Stirring french trump supporter trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638770)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: cream floppy bawdyhouse cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638777)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: Cracking lemon ticket booth

i have a feeling that if you could make this look a LOT worse by limiting it to just SF and LA.

Like they combined have like 2% of the country's population and like 25% of the homeless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638874)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle casino sweet tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639672)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: talented piazza patrolman

receiving welfare is one of the strongest indicators you vote dem. odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639164)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: charcoal multi-billionaire

truth be told we shouldn't allow people who receive welfare to vote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639728)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: talented piazza patrolman

Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639741)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: Red Swashbuckling Pisswyrm Range

Yes California significantly subsidizes the South. Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639174)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Motley Azure Sex Offender Abode

Did you even read the article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639294)