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Why is liberal California the poverty capital of America? [LATimes]

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-californi...
Slate Curious Hospital Internal Respiration
  01/14/18
It’s as though welfare reform passed California by, leaving ...
Wine keepsake machete menage
  01/14/18
Lose some weight, you fat faggot.
Cerebral stubborn principal's office haunted graveyard
  01/14/18
Many of these programs are not malicious and are well meanin...
Ocher passionate doctorate
  01/14/18
and yet socialism always ends up the same way- a failure. ...
Wine keepsake machete menage
  01/14/18
Lol. It's a vivid commentary on how fundamentally incompatib...
Territorial azn party of the first part
  03/19/18
(shitlib)
Excitant Striped Hyena Senate
  03/19/18
Socialism is what’s being indoctrinated to kiids not capital...
Federal Green Plaza
  03/19/18
ljl. Right, it's a really hard sell when socialists pretend...
Stimulating Property
  03/19/18
>> Any system ruled by political parties will always m...
gold church building
  03/19/18
LJL if you think "political parties"--as opposed t...
Territorial azn party of the first part
  03/19/18
is this the future Biden was talking about?
Yellow Corner
  01/14/18
The California government needs to be deposed
buck-toothed trailer park
  01/14/18
lol how did this get published
Dark demanding bawdyhouse
  01/14/18
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859064&mc=2...
Carnelian garrison sweet tailpipe
  01/14/18
San Francisco is literally infested with raving homeless peo...
disgusting pit clown
  01/14/18
They'll still find a way to blame conservatives
buff set hunting ground
  01/14/18
This is really an astonishing dynamic. The homeless populat...
Stimulating Property
  03/19/18
They did this in NYC under bloomberg and libs threw a fit. L...
heady station mediation
  03/19/18
Yeah. A liberal is a man too open-minded to take his own si...
Stimulating Property
  03/19/18
Odd case.
claret partner pozpig
  01/14/18
odd case
copper affirmative action
  03/19/18
also has the highest GDP of any state in the nation. go figu...
Massive international law enforcement agency
  03/19/18
It’s almost as if no amount of liberal redistribution can ev...
Carnelian garrison sweet tailpipe
  03/19/18
or negatively affect wealth
Massive international law enforcement agency
  03/19/18
But see above re poverty rate
copper affirmative action
  03/19/18
Almost as if recipients of social welfare spending are worse...
Fighting shitlib casino
  03/19/18
lol more like it's almost as if ruling class technocrat wan...
irradiated bonkers kitty cat
  03/19/18
"California, with 12% of the American population, is ho...
idiotic personal credit line meetinghouse
  03/19/18
holy fuck
Maize razzle feces field
  03/19/18
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copper affirmative action
  03/19/18
Moths to a flame
Carnelian garrison sweet tailpipe
  03/19/18
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elite hall cuckold
  03/19/18
titchwhs
irradiated bonkers kitty cat
  03/19/18
It’s probabky mostly weather, actually. Homeless people go w...
Abusive chartreuse box office
  03/19/18
And they also go where the benefits are. That's why a c...
Stimulating Property
  03/19/18
it's almost like a welfare state + open borders is disastrou...
gold church building
  03/19/18
...
irradiated bonkers kitty cat
  03/19/18
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beady-eyed orange water buffalo sandwich
  03/19/18
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House-broken glassy legal warrant nowag
  03/19/18
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contagious dull locale knife
  03/19/18
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Aromatic impressive indian lodge
  03/19/18
i have a feeling that if you could make this look a LOT wors...
Abusive chartreuse box office
  03/19/18
...
Multi-colored Forum Digit Ratio
  03/19/18
receiving welfare is one of the strongest indicators you vot...
unholy point
  03/19/18
truth be told we shouldn't allow people who receive welfare ...
gold church building
  03/19/18
Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and t...
unholy point
  03/19/18
Yes California significantly subsidizes the South. Odd case...
pea-brained appetizing location
  03/19/18
Did you even read the article
Stimulating Property
  03/19/18


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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: Slate Curious Hospital Internal Respiration

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-jackson-california-poverty-20180114-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153547)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:36 PM
Author: Wine keepsake machete menage

It’s as though welfare reform passed California by, leaving a dependency trap in place. Immigrants are falling into it: 55% of immigrant families in the state get some kind of means-tested benefits, compared with just 30% of natives.

Self-interest in the social-services community may be at fault. As economist William A. Niskanen explained back in 1971, public agencies seek to maximize their budgets, through which they acquire increased power, status, comfort and security. To keep growing its budget, and hence its power, a welfare bureaucracy has an incentive to expand its “customer” base.

scum democrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153715)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: Cerebral stubborn principal's office haunted graveyard

Lose some weight, you fat faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154100)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: Ocher passionate doctorate

Many of these programs are not malicious and are well meaning, but they are not immune from trying to secure their own survival. Vicious cycle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154398)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: Wine keepsake machete menage

and yet socialism always ends up the same way-

a failure.

there would be far fewer socialists here if our education system was better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154769)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Territorial azn party of the first part

Lol. It's a vivid commentary on how fundamentally incompatible with human nature capitalism is when a substantial mass of the populace still prefers socialism in spite of the bourgeoisie's unrelenting efforts to indoctrinate them with a false consciousness.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638679)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:12 PM
Author: Excitant Striped Hyena Senate

(shitlib)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638742)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: Federal Green Plaza

Socialism is what’s being indoctrinated to kiids not capitalism. Moreover what we have today is not capitalism it’s a perverted mix of both.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638748)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: Stimulating Property

ljl. Right, it's a really hard sell when socialists pretend that free stuff is just another glorious socialist revolution away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638752)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: gold church building

>> Any system ruled by political parties will always move to the left. Their business model is based on getting low status people to work for them. Obviously they must give them something in exchange. And they must motivate voters to vote for them. Their promise is simple: You, low status people, help us out, vote for us, obey our commands, and we will give you high status. Don’t vote for us, disobey us, let the right win, and you will remain low status. <<

https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2017/12/13/bioleninism-the-first-step/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638774)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: Territorial azn party of the first part

LJL if you think "political parties"--as opposed to those parties' corporate paymasters-- have run this country's political system to any extent over the last 40 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638935)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:38 PM
Author: Yellow Corner

is this the future Biden was talking about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153722)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: buck-toothed trailer park

The California government needs to be deposed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153834)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: Dark demanding bawdyhouse

lol how did this get published

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153983)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:16 PM
Author: Carnelian garrison sweet tailpipe

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859064&mc=24&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35153994)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: disgusting pit clown

San Francisco is literally infested with raving homeless people shitting in the streets and shooting up in front of million dollar apartments and offices of multi billion dollar companies



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154124)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: buff set hunting ground

They'll still find a way to blame conservatives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154717)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: Stimulating Property

This is really an astonishing dynamic. The homeless population is less than 1% of the city, yet the residents have collectively decided to completely cede the quality of their city to them. Imagine how much more pleasant SF would be if police actually enforced vagrancy laws and the government "encouraged" people to leave with free one way bus tickets out of town.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638483)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: heady station mediation

They did this in NYC under bloomberg and libs threw a fit. LJL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639653)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:23 PM
Author: Stimulating Property

Yeah. A liberal is a man too open-minded to take his own side in a fight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639799)



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Date: January 14th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: claret partner pozpig

Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35154744)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: copper affirmative action

odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638457)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Massive international law enforcement agency

also has the highest GDP of any state in the nation. go figure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638463)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: Carnelian garrison sweet tailpipe

It’s almost as if no amount of liberal redistribution can ever solve poverty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638476)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Massive international law enforcement agency

or negatively affect wealth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638494)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: copper affirmative action

But see above re poverty rate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638559)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Fighting shitlib casino

Almost as if recipients of social welfare spending are worse off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638497)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:53 PM
Author: irradiated bonkers kitty cat

lol

more like it's almost as if ruling class technocrat wannabe libs are only interested in redistribution as a rhetorical tool allowing them to accumulate power by whipping up the masses for votes

yielding little to no benefit for said masses bc an astonishing number of any funds taken for redistribution are lost to corruption and incompetence = feature, not bug

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638583)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: idiotic personal credit line meetinghouse

"California, with 12% of the American population, is home today to about one in three of the nation's welfare recipients."

Haha. Wow. Holy shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638499)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Maize razzle feces field

holy fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638503)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: copper affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638504)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: Carnelian garrison sweet tailpipe

Moths to a flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638552)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: elite hall cuckold



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638598)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:55 PM
Author: irradiated bonkers kitty cat

titchwhs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638604)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Abusive chartreuse box office

It’s probabky mostly weather, actually. Homeless people go where it’s warm year round.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638736)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Stimulating Property

And they also go where the benefits are.

That's why a city or even a state can't fix homelessness-- even if they did, then new homeless would stream in.

It would be totally worth it for the federal government to build massive complexes where the land is cheap and, essentially, institutionalize the mentally ill, incarcerate the truly criminal, and just give cash and a place to get back on their feet to people who are truly just down on their luck. But between conservative unwillingness to spend money and shitlibs treating the homeless as a class above the law, this isn't anywhere close to happening. So here we sit, surrendering the quality of our cities for no good reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638762)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: gold church building

it's almost like a welfare state + open borders is disastrous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638780)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: irradiated bonkers kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639147)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: beady-eyed orange water buffalo sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638760)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: House-broken glassy legal warrant nowag



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638768)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: contagious dull locale knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638770)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: Aromatic impressive indian lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638777)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: Abusive chartreuse box office

i have a feeling that if you could make this look a LOT worse by limiting it to just SF and LA.

Like they combined have like 2% of the country's population and like 25% of the homeless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35638874)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: Multi-colored Forum Digit Ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639672)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: unholy point

receiving welfare is one of the strongest indicators you vote dem. odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639164)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: gold church building

truth be told we shouldn't allow people who receive welfare to vote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639728)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: unholy point

Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639741)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: pea-brained appetizing location

Yes California significantly subsidizes the South. Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639174)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Stimulating Property

Did you even read the article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3859235&forum_id=2#35639294)