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not flame: there's a prole meme of investing in Iraqi dinars

they say the currency is due for a "re-evaluation"...
Razzle-dazzle Immigrant Indian Lodge
  01/16/18
Get Rich with the Iraqi Dinar At Least That's What the Scam...
Razzle-dazzle Immigrant Indian Lodge
  01/16/18
yeah I've seen it on xoxo...it was called XRP
Odious den faggotry
  01/16/18
...
amethyst indirect expression
  01/16/18
rip rip hurray!
green crackhouse
  01/16/18
Wow not flame: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.co...
Bearded silver trust fund
  01/16/18


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Date: January 16th, 2018 11:17 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Immigrant Indian Lodge

they say the currency is due for a "re-evaluation" which could make it go 100x its value overnight. you can google this and find dozens of articles from the last several years about how idiots are pwning themselves buying up iraqi dinars. curious if anyone on xoxo ever encountered this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861342&forum_id=2#35167538)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 11:22 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Immigrant Indian Lodge

Get Rich with the Iraqi Dinar

At Least That's What the Scammers Say

Written by Jason Williams

Posted October 21, 2016 at 4:28PM

Several years ago, rumors started circulating around the investing world about a revaluation of the Iraqi dinar. I'm not sure where they started, but I'm hoping this is where they end.

You see, there are some unscrupulous people out there trying to convince retail investors that, because of the oil reserves under Iraqi soil and the potential billions of dollars the sale of that oil could bring to the country, an investment in Iraqi dinar will make you a multimillionaire overnight.

They've told people that the dinar will eventually be on par with the U.S. dollar. And they've convinced many that this will happen overnight by action of the national bank in Iraq "revaluing" the currency.

Redenomination = Real Thing, Revaluation = Pipe Dream

First, let me explain something. While I am not an expert in currencies and don't profess to be, I do consider myself somewhat of an expert in research. And with just a little research, you can find out that massive "revaluation" by a central bank isn't something that's going to happen to a currency.

Redenomination, however, is a real thing. Sometimes a country will call back its currency in exchange for a new one in an attempt to curb inflation and give more buying power to its citizens. It will print new notes and exchange the old ones for these new ones at a particular rate... say something like 100 old notes for one new one — sometimes more, sometimes less, depending on how badly the currency has inflated.

And while the value of a pegged currency is determined by a country's central bank, the possibility of a massive revaluation (such as what is being proposed for the dinar) is slim to none. In the history of the world, there have been several revaluations, but never large and never quick. For example China has revalued the yuan by about 25% over the course of a decade. But further on in this article you'll see why even a 25% increase in value wouldn't even let you break even on an investment in the dinar. So dreams of making millions overnight are exactly that - dreams.

That being said, redenomination and revaluation sound similar, so it's easy to get confused. But even when a currency's value is pegged to other currencies and controlled by a central bank, it's not going to skyrocket in value overnight - likely not even over the course of many years.

Different Currency, Same Scam

The dinar isn't the first, nor is it the only currency that scammers use to part investors with their money. I've also been asked about (and seen offers myself for) other currencies.

The Vietnamese dong — another severely inflated currency — is a popular one these days.

As was the Egyptian pound a few years ago.

None seem to have gotten as much mileage as the dinar scam, but all run along the same lines. Buy this currency and make millions in profits overnight when the government magically changes it from worthless to equivalent with the U.S. dollar.

How the Scam Works

Basically, through a combination of investors' greed, alleged inside information from deep within a government, and the fact that you can accept physical delivery of the currency (touch it, hold it, show it off to friends while bragging about what a great investment you stumbled across), scammers have been able to part investors from millions (if not billions) of dollars. In fact, just recently a scamming ring that bilked investors out of $24 million here in the U.S. was broken up by the FBI.

The scammers would profess to have inside information about a revaluation that was soon to take place that would put the dinar on par with the dollar and mint instant millionaires and billionaires when it did. They regaled potential investors with statistics about Iraq's oil reserves and the money that would add to the economy when sold on the open market. They said they had special permission from the U.S. government to deal in dinars and that they had connections within the Iraqi government that would tell them exactly when the change was about to take place so they and their clients could load up on dinars right before and get rich overnight.

And even though we all know that if it sounds too good to be true, it's likely a scam, many investors still went for the bait and invested large sums of money.

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Why Dinars (and Dongs) Won't Make You Rich

As I've already explained, the value of a currency is set on the open market, and a government isn't going to have much luck changing how much other people will pay for it. But another point to make about these scams is that the perpetrators were taking a cut — an exchange fee — from investors, were charging for delivery of the notes, and weren't even offering the notes at the official exchange rates.

For example, I found a site that's still offering to sell you Iraqi dinars. For $261 (that includes shipping), they'll send you 250,000 in dinars. Not bad, right? Wrong! At the current exchange rate, $261 should get you about 304,470 in dinars. So, if you take the bait and buy from that site, you're already down 22%. The dinar has to go up 22% just for you to break even! Still sound like a good idea?

It's the same with sites offering Egyptian pounds and Vietnamese dongs. You lose so much in the initial transaction that even if the currencies do increase, you'll still end up losing money.

Part of the loss is because of the spreads offered by the few banks that carry these thinly traded currencies — they keep them wide so they can make enough of a profit to make it worth carrying them. The rest of the loss is because you're getting scammed.

What's Next?

Fortunately, many people have caught on to the dinar scam. A cursory search of the Internet yields hundreds of articles warning you against these investments. In fact, the scam became so widespread that the FBI is going after these companies.

Side note: If you feel like you've been the victim of such a scam or have been contacted by someone trying to sell you on it, you can and should report them to the FBI on the agency's website.

So, the dinar scam is coming to an end. But that's not going to stop these scammers from trying to get your money. There are still a lot of other untapped currencies for them to push.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the Iranian rial make a move to replace the Iraqi dinar as the scammer's choice.

You'll be told about the untold wealth lying under Iran's oil fields. You'll hear about the progressive moves being made by the government there. You'll be reminded that the U.S. sanctions on exporting oil have recently been lifted and that as the crude starts to flow, Iran will get rich and the currency will skyrocket.

Iran may get rich (once oil prices recover more), but the currency is not going to skyrocket. I would imagine it will see some upward momentum, but not enough to make you rich overnight, and probably not enough to recoup that 22% to 25% loss you took in the initial transaction.

So watch out for the next round of currency scams.

Some Currencies You Can Count On

If you really want to invest in currencies (and aren't an expert in the foreign exchange markets), pick ones that are more common and easier to get. To get you started, I'll give you a few of my favorites:

The Euro: It trades around $1.09 for one euro. This is way lower than it's been in the recent past and is influenced by the uncertainty of investors about 1) European economies and 2) the stability of the EU after the Brexit vote earlier this year. The EU has a pretty strong economy, though, and while it's going through a tough time, it is likely to stay together. As the economy recovers and the fear abates, the exchange rate will go back up, and your euros will be worth more in USD than what you paid.

The British Pound: It's trading at about $1.22 for one GBP. Again, that is a historically low rate (not the lowest ever, but far lower than the $2 a pound it averaged for decades before the Brexit). Again, this is based on uncertainty about the British economy after its exit from the EU. But again, the United Kingdom has a pretty solid economy, and while it may not get back to the $2 per pound rate we knew in years past, it should recover from current levels.

The Canadian Dollar: Let's not forget our neighbors to the north. The CAD is trading around $0.75 per CAD. This is a currency that was just recently on par with the USD and a country whose economy is strong enough that it could easily get back there.

The one common thing about all these currencies is just that: they're common. Banks carry them and aren't going to charge you an arm and a leg to exchange your dollars for them. So you're not going to start off 25% in the hole like you would with those other currencies I talked about above.

So, if you're not planning on traveling to Iraq, Vietnam, Egypt, or Iran in the near future, you're better off holding onto your dollars and investing them in the stocks we recommend in Wealth Daily and in our premium services like The Wealth Advisory.

If you are heading to any of those countries, however, by all means, get some of their currencies — it'll save you some cash when you're shopping for souvenirs over there if you can pay in dinars, dongs, pounds, or rials. Otherwise, avoid them like the plague. And pass the warning on to your friends and families. I don't want to hear about anyone else losing their money on scams like these.

To investing with integrity (and spotting scams a mile away),

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861342&forum_id=2#35167568)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 11:18 AM
Author: Odious den faggotry

yeah I've seen it on xoxo...it was called XRP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861342&forum_id=2#35167543)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 11:20 AM
Author: amethyst indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861342&forum_id=2#35167554)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: green crackhouse

rip rip hurray!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861342&forum_id=2#35167836)



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Date: January 16th, 2018 11:22 AM
Author: Bearded silver trust fund

Wow not flame:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2016/08/10/dinar-scam-takes-on-new-twist/amp/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3861342&forum_id=2#35167565)