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Why the alt-right is winning Americas meme war (FT)

Why the alt-right is winning America’s meme war ‘The memes ...
crusty lascivious filthpig chad
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thirsty well-lubricated therapy
  01/19/18
“Shithole” is a tag that has circulated in these message gro...
crusty lascivious filthpig chad
  01/19/18
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crusty lascivious filthpig chad
  01/19/18
It's like a sixty year old back in 1958 trying to understand...
Medicated house
  01/19/18
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Olive Flirting Range
  01/19/18
man this article really sucks. like just from an objective i...
Cracking Goyim
  01/19/18
I had the same thought. What a horrible, shitty piece of wri...
trip station
  01/19/18
What exactly do you think happened? It’s a fake news non sto...
wild office place of business
  01/19/18
"After all, as Goerzen points out, one of the great odd...
vivacious partner scourge upon the earth
  01/19/18
it starts too late at 4chan. all of this ironic meme shit st...
unhinged citrine home
  01/19/18
very cr
snowy toilet seat
  01/19/18
yep Huge advantage in the new memesrace
Misanthropic spot
  01/19/18
*calls you a jewfag while rocking my 1337 Crew terrorist CS ...
Cracking Goyim
  01/19/18
Strange that unmoderated, anonymous forums inevitably take a...
trip station
  01/19/18
totally anonymous and unmoderated internet posting is the on...
startled transparent marketing idea
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razzle unholy locus boltzmann
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vivacious partner scourge upon the earth
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Carnelian aromatic prole
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curious primrose address cuck
  01/19/18
LOL this is pretentious bullshit. it's not a "free m...
bat-shit-crazy school cafeteria
  01/20/18
ljl no and conflating these two things speaks volumes about ...
trip station
  01/20/18
i can fucking guarantee you that you have nothing on my IQ f...
bat-shit-crazy school cafeteria
  01/20/18
Well shit I guess Julia knows more about finance than I do b...
brass harsh fanboi clown
  01/20/18
LJL it's telling of how much of a polisci shithead you are t...
bat-shit-crazy school cafeteria
  01/20/18
it's telling how much of credentialist cuck you are that you...
Blue Associate
  01/20/18
yeah, substantial scientific contributions and findings are ...
bat-shit-crazy school cafeteria
  01/20/18
Lmao I’m sure you’re rewriting science books!
brass harsh fanboi clown
  01/20/18
what have you contributed to society? what have you done to ...
bat-shit-crazy school cafeteria
  01/20/18
Well you're certainly a thin-skinned enough faggot to convin...
trip station
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vivacious partner scourge upon the earth
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Olive Flirting Range
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Blue Associate
  01/20/18
IFNB is a strong meme not because it was forced, but because...
brass harsh fanboi clown
  01/20/18
it's a mix of both. right wing nuts dominate unmoderated ...
Soul-stirring candlestick maker useless brakes
  01/20/18
(lib jew fag)
crimson sanctuary
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Offensive public bath black woman
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Sapphire stage
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"Doubtless many FT readers would like the most extreme ...
razzle unholy locus boltzmann
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Carnelian aromatic prole
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crusty lascivious filthpig chad
  01/20/18
http://www.renegadetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/je...
Sick vibrant liquid oxygen
  01/20/18
gee, i wonder who "Financial Times" readers are...
bat-shit-crazy school cafeteria
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Sapphire stage
  01/20/18
This is why: http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id...
Carnelian aromatic prole
  01/20/18
Libs are truly disgusting.
mischievous codepig turdskin
  01/20/18
"But it remains to be seen whether these counter-attack...
pearly demanding chapel
  01/20/18
The left can meme too! "There have been attempts to ...
Aqua senate
  01/20/18
And last year a “left accelerationist” group of artists and ...
opaque garrison
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Sapphire stage
  01/20/18
just build ur own internet
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Date: January 19th, 2018 9:56 AM
Author: crusty lascivious filthpig chad

Why the alt-right is winning America’s meme war

‘The memes are so potent because they are designed to be subversive and to bait their opponents into a reaction’

Gillian Tett

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Gillian Tett

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Almost a decade ago, Matt Goerzen, a Canadian artist and social scientist, stumbled into the world of subversive internet chatrooms. He was fascinated — and alarmed.

Goerzen could see that the anonymity of the internet was enabling a virulently angry, anti-establishment community to emerge on platforms such as “4chan”, where users post under pseudonyms with little or no moderation. And while these groups did not initially seem very political (the message boards were notorious instead for puerile humour and pornography), as the years passed they became infused with an “alt-right” agenda — that of the white nationalist movement. They also became adept at launching online attacks on their opponents, or “trolling”.

The artist in Goerzen observed something else: what made the alt-right so influential was that the users were not just using words to communicate their messages, but snappy visual images too. Both 4chan and 8chan, a similar platform, were originally created as “image boards”, focused on pictures rather than text — a format first created in Japan, where they were used to share manga and anime. Alt-right users had become adept at creating visual “memes”, to use the phrase coined by Richard Dawkins, the evolutionary biologist, back in the 1970s, to describe a “unit of cultural transmission” that spread from “mind to mind”.

“These [white nationalists] are a small group of people,” explains Goerzen, who now works as a researcher at a New York-based project called Data and Society, which studies modern cyberculture and media. “But these groups can deliver an outsized impact because of their ability to push the right buttons to bait the media.” Those memes, in other words, have wings.

It is an important point to ponder, particularly given the furore this month in Washington around racist imagery, and the degree to which malevolent political forces (in Russia, for example) have been using social media to discredit and delegitimise political debate.

When reports emerged that President Donald Trump had used the word “shithole” to describe countries such as Haiti or Nigeria, mainstream observers were understandably appalled. But many alt-right message groups were thrilled. “Shithole” is a tag that has circulated in these message groups for a long time, giving birth to a range of memes. “Ha, CNN is actually saying shithole,” crowed one commenter on 4chan. Another participant said, amid a stream of cartoons and messages on the subject: “Who wants to colour in the world in five shades of brown?”

To be fair, there is no evidence that Trump has visited sites such as 4chan, and the word “shithole” is a fairly common expletive in America. However, the images created on 4chan and the more extreme 8chan have been seeping into social media and news publications such as Breitbart. During the presidential campaign, Trump shared an image on Twitter of Hillary Clinton against a backdrop of money, with the phrase “Most corrupt candidate ever!” in a red six-pointed star. The image, with its anti-Semitic overtones, was discovered to have been previously featured on 8chan, though Trump’s social-media director later said it had been “lifted from an anti-Hillary Twitter user” and insisted that the star was a sheriff’s star.

Doubtless many FT readers would like the most extreme of these sites to be shut down. But it would be naive to think you can stop this trend simply by banning platforms. The alt-right has swelled in power by presenting itself as a victim of elitist attacks, and the memes are so potent precisely because they are designed to be subversive and to bait their opponents into a reaction.

Indeed, what is going on here is a classic example of the type of “network” effect described by Niall Ferguson, the British historian, in his 2017 book The Square and the Tower: people are congregating online to challenge hierarchies, using the power of the (cyber) crowd against the elite. This fight is not just about ideas, but communication styles too. Six centuries ago, Martin Luther upended the power of the Roman Catholic Church by using vernacular speech to undercut priestly Latin. Today, alt-right trolls are using memes to overturn mainstream ideas about political communication.

The urgent question is whether there is any way for people to counter alt-right memes. After all, as Goerzen points out, one of the great oddities of our cyber age is that the leftwing of American politics (never mind the mainstream) has hitherto been ineffective at using this visual language.

There have been attempts to fight back. Liberal voices have created a few popular hashtags, such as #blacklivesmatter or #metoo. And last year a “left accelerationist” group of artists and activists called “Alt-Woke” appeared in cyberspace; they hope to beat the alt-right at its own game.

But it remains to be seen whether these counter-attacks will pack any punch — not least because one problem that haunts leftwing groups is that they seem reluctant to use the same aggressive “trolling” tactics employed by the right. Either way, the next time you hear the word “shithole”, consider how quickly that particular meme spread. Yes, the topic and image may make us wince; but this is a political trend that no voter can afford to ignore, least of all on the left. Particularly as the 2018 mid-term elections draw near.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188343)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: thirsty well-lubricated therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188345)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 9:59 AM
Author: crusty lascivious filthpig chad

“Shithole” is a tag that has circulated in these message groups for a long time, giving birth to a range of memes. “Ha, CNN is actually saying shithole,” crowed one commenter on 4chan.

To be fair, there is no evidence that Trump has visited sites such as 4chan, and the word “shithole” is a fairly common expletive in America.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188358)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: crusty lascivious filthpig chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188462)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 10:30 AM
Author: Medicated house

It's like a sixty year old back in 1958 trying to understand this new rock and roll thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188514)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 9:59 AM
Author: Olive Flirting Range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188362)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 10:22 AM
Author: Cracking Goyim

man this article really sucks. like just from an objective informational standpoint.....he presents almost no information at all. it's one of those essays i would bang out in 15 minutes as a sophomore in high school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188480)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: trip station

I had the same thought. What a horrible, shitty piece of writing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188485)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 10:49 AM
Author: wild office place of business

What exactly do you think happened? It’s a fake news non story. Bet he spent less than 15.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188609)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 10:26 AM
Author: vivacious partner scourge upon the earth

"After all, as Goerzen points out, one of the great oddities of our cyber age is that the leftwing of American politics (never mind the mainstream) has hitherto been ineffective at using this visual language."

bootlicking social science shitheads are humorless, odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188493)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 10:26 AM
Author: unhinged citrine home

it starts too late at 4chan. all of this ironic meme shit started in online games like Counter-Strike, on forums like Something Awful, etc. Communities of sarcastic young men honing their meme chops blew up a lot earlier

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188496)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 10:28 AM
Author: snowy toilet seat

very cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188503)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 10:44 AM
Author: Misanthropic spot

yep

Huge advantage in the new memesrace

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188583)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 11:04 AM
Author: Cracking Goyim

*calls you a jewfag while rocking my 1337 Crew terrorist CS 1.6 character model*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188703)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 10:29 AM
Author: trip station

Strange that unmoderated, anonymous forums inevitably take a turn toward a "fuck libs" worldview

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188506)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 10:36 AM
Author: startled transparent marketing idea

totally anonymous and unmoderated internet posting is the only free market of ideas.

that's why (((they))) hate it so much and write articles about how horrible it is that all of the normal filters and pressures used to shut down free expression don't apply. but it's not fair if truth is the only currency! oy vey, moshe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188539)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 10:45 AM
Author: razzle unholy locus boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188590)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: vivacious partner scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35188601)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:31 PM
Author: Carnelian aromatic prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35190314)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: curious primrose address cuck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35190344)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 10:03 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy school cafeteria

LOL this is pretentious bullshit.

it's not a "free market," it's an asylum. it's not about who has the best ideas, it's about who's most obsessive and mentally ill and aggressive and willing to spend a shitload of time on teh interwebs.

you think shit comes to predominate on a message board because it's some brilliant truth? that's like thinking IFNB has become a strong meme because it's such a brilliant and hilarious idea. it's become a strong meme because some mentally-ill obsessive fucks relentlessly repoast the same shit over and over again even if it's gay and dumb.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35195920)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: trip station

ljl no and conflating these two things speaks volumes about your IQ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196231)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:40 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy school cafeteria

i can fucking guarantee you that you have nothing on my IQ faggot

how many publications do you have in Science, Nature, PNAS, etc?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196356)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:47 AM
Author: brass harsh fanboi clown

Well shit I guess Julia knows more about finance than I do because she has more publications than I do!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196396)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:50 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy school cafeteria

LJL it's telling of how much of a polisci shithead you are that you don't understand the significance of publishing in the top scientific journals in the world

tell me all about your high-IQ contributions to science or some other g-loaded field faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196405)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:55 AM
Author: Blue Associate

it's telling how much of credentialist cuck you are that you don't realize that academic publications are meaningless when assessing intelligence. your number of academic publications only measures your fitness for academia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196434)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:56 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy school cafeteria

yeah, substantial scientific contributions and findings are totally not g-loaded. idiot.

shitpoasting and forcememing on anonymous message boards, on the other hand...no clearer way to assess IQ than that!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196441)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: brass harsh fanboi clown

Lmao I’m sure you’re rewriting science books!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196451)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 12:00 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy school cafeteria

what have you contributed to society? what have you done to demonstrate your high IQ other than flaming and winning wars of attrition in subthread wastelands?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196462)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 12:30 PM
Author: trip station

Well you're certainly a thin-skinned enough faggot to convince me you work in academia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196624)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 1:22 PM
Author: vivacious partner scourge upon the earth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35197006)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:56 AM
Author: Olive Flirting Range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196436)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: rambunctious corner idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196367)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:51 AM
Author: Blue Associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196408)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:45 AM
Author: brass harsh fanboi clown

IFNB is a strong meme not because it was forced, but because it’s not only a great meme but the most IRL alpha way to live life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196391)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 1:30 PM
Author: Soul-stirring candlestick maker useless brakes

it's a mix of both.

right wing nuts dominate unmoderated anonymous forums because it's one of the few places that they could air their views. if every forum was open to their nuttery, the effect would be much smaller

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35197055)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: crimson sanctuary

(lib jew fag)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35197250)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: Offensive public bath black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196538)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 1:24 PM
Author: Sapphire stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35197018)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: razzle unholy locus boltzmann

"Doubtless many FT readers would like the most extreme of these sites to be shut down."

"Doubtless many FT readers would like the most extreme of these sites to be shut down."

"Doubtless many FT readers would like the most extreme of these sites to be shut down."

"Doubtless many FT readers would like the most extreme of these sites to be shut down."

"Doubtless many FT readers would like the most extreme of these sites to be shut down."

"Doubtless many FT readers would like the most extreme of these sites to be shut down."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35190298)



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Date: January 19th, 2018 2:31 PM
Author: Carnelian aromatic prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35190316)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 9:44 AM
Author: crusty lascivious filthpig chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35195829)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: Sick vibrant liquid oxygen

http://www.renegadetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/jews-shut-it-down-800x445.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35195862)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 10:05 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy school cafeteria

gee, i wonder who "Financial Times" readers are...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35195930)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 1:26 PM
Author: Sapphire stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35197032)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 9:52 AM
Author: Carnelian aromatic prole

This is why:

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864633&forum_id=2#35190245

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35195869)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: mischievous codepig turdskin

Libs are truly disgusting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196308)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:36 AM
Author: pearly demanding chapel

"But it remains to be seen whether these counter-attacks will pack any punch — not least because one problem that haunts leftwing groups is that they seem reluctant to use the same aggressive “trolling” tactics employed by the right"

that must be it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196337)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:49 AM
Author: Aqua senate

The left can meme too!

"There have been attempts to fight back. Liberal voices have created a few popular hashtags, such as #blacklivesmatter or #metoo."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196403)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 12:09 PM
Author: opaque garrison

And last year a “left accelerationist” group of artists and activists called “Alt-Woke” appeared in cyberspace; they hope to beat the alt-right at its own game.

More pantsuit flashmobs on the way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35196494)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 1:27 PM
Author: Sapphire stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#35197038)



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Date: September 2nd, 2022 10:36 PM
Author: Spectacular Meetinghouse Trump Supporter

just build ur own internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3864391&forum_id=2#45112804)