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full blown war with China starts right now. who wins?

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Mustard Frum Idiot Sweet Tailpipe
  01/20/18
US, but both sides hurt a lot
aggressive diverse temple psychic
  01/20/18
Explain how the US manages to project sufficient power over ...
trip gas station water buffalo
  01/20/18
from japan and phillipines.
brass old irish cottage
  01/20/18
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Mustard Frum Idiot Sweet Tailpipe
  01/20/18
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aggressive diverse temple psychic
  01/20/18
What made Japan and the Philippines decide that this week wa...
trip gas station water buffalo
  01/20/18
they have no choice. half of japan lives here and 90% of phi...
brass old irish cottage
  01/20/18
Just do be obliterated from existence because of remittance ...
trip gas station water buffalo
  01/20/18
we have bases all over there and then everyone would post up...
brass old irish cottage
  01/20/18
LJL, no. If a war was really brewing the US would quickly fi...
trip gas station water buffalo
  01/20/18
we're using bases currently; this isn't sealed up shit from ...
brass old irish cottage
  01/20/18
Incirlik isnt "sealed up shit from 20 years beforehand....
trip gas station water buffalo
  01/20/18
"utter annihilation" Right. Because that happen...
vivacious bespoke tank lodge
  01/20/18
Russians aren't "obliterating" anyone. Be serious....
vivacious bespoke tank lodge
  01/20/18
lol shut the fuck up faggot literally no one gives a fuck ab...
greedy orchestra pit
  01/21/18
without resorting to copy pasting from Janes Defense Weekly,...
aggressive diverse temple psychic
  01/20/18
DF-41 the 3 American carrier battle groups the US is actuall...
trip gas station water buffalo
  01/20/18
Power is protected on the tip of ICBMs which pulverize china...
High-end bawdyhouse
  01/21/18
US is not opening the war with 50 nuclear strikes
spectacular saffron whorehouse indirect expression
  01/21/18
china hasn't fought a war since the nips blew their assholes...
brass old irish cottage
  01/20/18
And? The entire Chinese army is built from floor to ceiling ...
trip gas station water buffalo
  01/20/18
Why, exactly? So China can slowly take over all of eastern R...
vivacious bespoke tank lodge
  01/20/18
Eastern Russia is an impenetrable swamp where tanks sink lik...
trip gas station water buffalo
  01/20/18
They are taking it over by moving in the population anyway, ...
vivacious bespoke tank lodge
  01/20/18
They are not because its impenetrable and any humans making ...
trip gas station water buffalo
  01/20/18
the United States has the most battle-tested and combat-read...
dun vigorous state fanboi
  01/20/18
Yep, and it just managed to lose every war since Korea.
trip gas station water buffalo
  01/20/18
Not "lose" militarily. Dumb wars strategically. O...
vivacious bespoke tank lodge
  01/20/18
I do believe Putin showed in Syria that the US is not alone ...
trip gas station water buffalo
  01/20/18
The why is essential, actually. The USSR had a much stronger...
vivacious bespoke tank lodge
  01/20/18
One traitor named Gorbachev.
trip gas station water buffalo
  01/21/18
The reason matters a lot. You can't seriously think otherwis...
violent jade sound barrier
  01/21/18
the USA is so good at war that it had to play the game on ex...
dun vigorous state fanboi
  01/21/18
somehow, cohen benefits
Slate school milk
  01/20/18
lol
Flesh goyim nowag
  01/20/18
literally
brass old irish cottage
  01/20/18
Any discussion here would at best be like WWI generals talki...
carnelian know-it-all public bath
  01/20/18
Not seeing a problem. Once you're all dead the Soviets can j...
trip gas station water buffalo
  01/20/18
before any open conflict breaks out, both China and the US w...
carnelian know-it-all public bath
  01/20/18
the chinese rely on our our sats.
brass old irish cottage
  01/20/18
For what exactly?
trip gas station water buffalo
  01/20/18
seeing shit, copying shit, trying to fix shit.
brass old irish cottage
  01/20/18
None of this is true. Russia, China and the US have wholly i...
trip gas station water buffalo
  01/20/18
Every non military entity on Earth uses GPS in some capacity
180 indecent crackhouse organic girlfriend
  01/21/18
They can cut cable lines, detonate underwater nukes and caus...
nudist erotic coldplay fan
  01/21/18
And although it wasn't quite full scale total warfare, the c...
nudist erotic coldplay fan
  01/21/18
How is Russia's birth rate these days? Russia clearly found ...
vivacious bespoke tank lodge
  01/20/18
No answer.
vivacious bespoke tank lodge
  01/21/18
Morons ITT ignoring the obvious. The war would go nuclear si...
High-end bawdyhouse
  01/21/18
Yeah surprised how badly all of the other answers are - the ...
Titillating Spot Ceo
  01/21/18
Oh, fortuitous nuclear annihilation.
violent jade sound barrier
  01/21/18
China's second strike capability is enough to deter the USA....
Maniacal tattoo locale
  01/21/18
What second strike capability? Mobile icbm launchers? Doubt ...
High-end bawdyhouse
  01/21/18
dependent on how it starts. asking who wins us v. china is l...
sienna piazza
  01/21/18
correct
pink overrated corn cake preventive strike
  01/21/18
Why does ARE Reptile always get so giddy in military threads...
orchid fantasy-prone university
  01/21/18
Literally no one in the Chinese "military" has bee...
slippery business firm elastic band
  01/21/18
One thing is certain, they would try to pee pee in our Coke....
beta regret
  01/21/18


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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:14 PM
Author: Mustard Frum Idiot Sweet Tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200564)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:16 PM
Author: aggressive diverse temple psychic

US, but both sides hurt a lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200573)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: trip gas station water buffalo

Explain how the US manages to project sufficient power over China to win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200579)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: brass old irish cottage

from japan and phillipines.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200580)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: Mustard Frum Idiot Sweet Tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200581)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: aggressive diverse temple psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200583)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:23 PM
Author: trip gas station water buffalo

What made Japan and the Philippines decide that this week was a good week to stop existing exactly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200610)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: brass old irish cottage

they have no choice. half of japan lives here and 90% of phillipines gets checks from family here; hell all the catholic churches there are neighborhood scams funded by dumb/too busy family over here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200668)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: trip gas station water buffalo

Just do be obliterated from existence because of remittance payments. Yeah, Duterte aint that crazy (and he hates the US) and the Japanese are too chicken shit to even face down N.Korea let alone China.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200698)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:37 PM
Author: brass old irish cottage

we have bases all over there and then everyone would post up in japan, s korea, and phill, plus austrailia will help. and russia will help because they think they can control or live with americans but nobody in the world would want to mix and live with china if given a choice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200711)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:40 PM
Author: trip gas station water buffalo

LJL, no. If a war was really brewing the US would quickly find how worthless most of those bases are just like it did in Turkey when the Turks quickly killed OPs out of Incirlik when they felt like it. Truly useful foreign bases require a promise to massacre the fuck out of the locals if they get in the way.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200739)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: brass old irish cottage

we're using bases currently; this isn't sealed up shit from 20 years beforehand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200743)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:46 PM
Author: trip gas station water buffalo

Incirlik isnt "sealed up shit from 20 years beforehand." It is the largest US base in the region but when Turkey was pissed off it shut down all US flights into and out of it in about 1 minutes time and this dynamic applies to basically all US foreign bases. Your using them for BS ops and show the flag nonsense. The locals have the capability to shut down those bases and they would if they thought US ops risked their utter annihilation. US bases are not like Soviet bases in Eastern Europe which were built expressly around the idea of murdering the fuck out of the locals if they got in the way

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200776)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: vivacious bespoke tank lodge

"utter annihilation"

Right. Because that happens all the time, countries being annihilated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200828)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:46 PM
Author: vivacious bespoke tank lodge

Russians aren't "obliterating" anyone. Be serious. Putin is trying to incrementally strengthen his position regionally because NATO probably went too far in the 1990s. That's far different.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200772)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 2:30 AM
Author: greedy orchestra pit

lol shut the fuck up faggot literally no one gives a fuck about your cold war fantasies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201314)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: aggressive diverse temple psychic

without resorting to copy pasting from Janes Defense Weekly, explain how China does

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200582)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:21 PM
Author: trip gas station water buffalo

DF-41 the 3 American carrier battle groups the US is actually capable of deploying. War over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200602)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: High-end bawdyhouse

Power is protected on the tip of ICBMs which pulverize china’s biggest 50 cities within 30 minutes. The chinks take out LA and San Fran in the process. war over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200905)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 11:04 PM
Author: spectacular saffron whorehouse indirect expression

US is not opening the war with 50 nuclear strikes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35207011)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:16 PM
Author: brass old irish cottage

china hasn't fought a war since the nips blew their assholes out in ww2.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200575)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:21 PM
Author: trip gas station water buffalo

And? The entire Chinese army is built from floor to ceiling by the Russians who have fought wars a plenty. Read up on Peace Mission 2005. The Chicoms sent troops to Russia for war gaming. The Chicoms were flying their attack helos too high. The Russkies explained to them that they were deploying their entire helicopter force wrong. The Russkies then trained up the entire PLA on air mobile assault over a 2 year period. They did this pretty much across every branch and specialty. Since that time Peace Mission has become a bi-annual tradition and has been augmented with additional now pretty much quarterly exchanges. The Russkies and Chicoms even share a common airspace command center. And they maintain a joint SARSAT constellation. It aint NATO but only because it's more efficient than TTT cash wasting NATO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200598)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:29 PM
Author: vivacious bespoke tank lodge

Why, exactly? So China can slowly take over all of eastern Russia?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200646)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: trip gas station water buffalo

Eastern Russia is an impenetrable swamp where tanks sink like stones. Aint no threat of any of that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200675)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: vivacious bespoke tank lodge

They are taking it over by moving in the population anyway, no bullets needed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200700)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:38 PM
Author: trip gas station water buffalo

They are not because its impenetrable and any humans making the crossing die. There is basically zero Chinese migration to Russia except like 50,000-60,000 temp workers in Vladivostok almost none of whom end up staying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200720)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:29 PM
Author: dun vigorous state fanboi

the United States has the most battle-tested and combat-ready military in the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200653)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:33 PM
Author: trip gas station water buffalo

Yep, and it just managed to lose every war since Korea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200681)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:39 PM
Author: vivacious bespoke tank lodge

Not "lose" militarily. Dumb wars strategically. Only the USA can fight half-way around the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200727)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:42 PM
Author: trip gas station water buffalo

I do believe Putin showed in Syria that the US is not alone in being able to fight halfway around the world though in the Russian context with Russia sitting on a dozen time zones there is no point that is actually halfway around the world from holy mother Russia. And the why of your losing is irrelevant to the fact that you keep losing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200748)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:48 PM
Author: vivacious bespoke tank lodge

The why is essential, actually. The USSR had a much stronger military than western europe during the cold war. Why didn't the USSR come to dominate all of europe?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200786)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 12:00 AM
Author: trip gas station water buffalo

One traitor named Gorbachev.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200836)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 3:27 AM
Author: violent jade sound barrier

The reason matters a lot. You can't seriously think otherwise. If you lose because you're restraining yourself for political reasons that don't apply later, you'd be foolish to cite the prior self-imposed loss as predictive of the outcome subsequent war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201427)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 1:48 AM
Author: dun vigorous state fanboi

the USA is so good at war that it had to play the game on expert mode by creating absurd rules of engagement etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201219)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:20 PM
Author: Slate school milk

somehow, cohen benefits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200597)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:21 PM
Author: Flesh goyim nowag

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200599)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: brass old irish cottage

literally

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200673)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:25 PM
Author: carnelian know-it-all public bath

Any discussion here would at best be like WWI generals talking WWII strategy. There would be no winners in a full scale war between China and the US.

China would shoot down and disable our satellites and we'd do the same to them. We'd mutually knock out each other's power grid and infrastructure through sleeper viruses. China would dump its treasuries and dollar holdings to cause maximum chaos for our markets. Both societies would be plunged into absolute chaos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200623)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:26 PM
Author: trip gas station water buffalo

Not seeing a problem. Once you're all dead the Soviets can just PWN, PWN, PWN.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200632)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:34 PM
Author: carnelian know-it-all public bath

before any open conflict breaks out, both China and the US will have fully anticipated what Russia would do as well. Russia would probably align with China and the US would treat them just the same. I'm confident that Russia already has embedded viruses in the US infrastructure operating systems and could shut down our grid if they wanted. We could probably do the same to them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200688)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:33 PM
Author: brass old irish cottage

the chinese rely on our our sats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200678)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:33 PM
Author: trip gas station water buffalo

For what exactly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200684)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:34 PM
Author: brass old irish cottage

seeing shit, copying shit, trying to fix shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200695)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:36 PM
Author: trip gas station water buffalo

None of this is true. Russia, China and the US have wholly independent sat constellations and any Chicom corp renting Yankee sats would see its CEO strung up by the balls. And for that matter even the US is protectionist as all fuck in this area. The US government wont rent your sat if you launched it outside of the US now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200702)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 1:45 AM
Author: 180 indecent crackhouse organic girlfriend

Every non military entity on Earth uses GPS in some capacity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201204)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 2:40 AM
Author: nudist erotic coldplay fan

They can cut cable lines, detonate underwater nukes and cause massive tsunamis, cut off manufacturing exports including some military parts (we could recover with out homegrown manufacture but it wouldn't happen overnight and we'd be hurting for a few years), they have the edge in some areas of cyber warfare, quickly gaining the edge in next gen warfare such as hypersonic missiles that can take out aircraft carriers, etc

There.would.be.no.winners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201331)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 3:15 AM
Author: nudist erotic coldplay fan

And although it wasn't quite full scale total warfare, the chinese won vs the US in the 2nd half of the Korean War, as well defeat both France and US via their proxy Vietnam

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201411)



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Date: January 20th, 2018 11:52 PM
Author: vivacious bespoke tank lodge

How is Russia's birth rate these days? Russia clearly found religion in recent years, which is probably good for more children. Correct?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200803)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: vivacious bespoke tank lodge

No answer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200904)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: High-end bawdyhouse

Morons ITT ignoring the obvious. The war would go nuclear since the US cannot and would have no desire to get bogged down in a land war versus a “billion man army.” Our nuclear arsenal is an order of magnitude better than the chinks’.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200928)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 2:40 AM
Author: Titillating Spot Ceo

Yeah surprised how badly all of the other answers are - the OP said "full blown war". That said China has more than enough nukes to nuke the US to oblivion as well. Result? Tie with both countries smouldering nuked ruins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201332)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: violent jade sound barrier

Oh, fortuitous nuclear annihilation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35204851)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Maniacal tattoo locale

China's second strike capability is enough to deter the USA. Sure, US could wipe China off the map, but China could wipe out 30% of our population and 75% of our GDP.

The more realistic scenario is that the US sinks China's TTT navy and shoots down their TTT airforce. Then US blockades China and shoots cruise missiles are key targets. China's economy would be crippled.

Any US invasion would fail spectacularly, but the USA pwns on neutral territory and uber pwns on the blue water ocean.

If the USA had to invade China, they'd have start starving them out and then wipe them out like rodents. Do shit like wipe out cities rather than fight street by street. I don't see any reason why anyone would do that though. It wouldn't be worth it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35204875)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 11:02 PM
Author: High-end bawdyhouse

What second strike capability? Mobile icbm launchers? Doubt the chinks would be coordinated enough to pull of an effective second strike.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35206998)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: sienna piazza

dependent on how it starts. asking who wins us v. china is like asking "who wins, UK v germanY??". answer depends on who controls european production, and how the US/USSR are feeling.

if a full blown war develops where the primary view of the developed war is that china started it, china loses. china is nowhere close to self-sufficient and if it gets shut off from even a few major trading partners it goes to hell a lot faster than america would in a similar situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35200931)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 6:38 AM
Author: pink overrated corn cake preventive strike

correct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201627)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 1:47 AM
Author: orchid fantasy-prone university

Why does ARE Reptile always get so giddy in military threads? Russia's only aircraft carrier is kept afloat by a tug boat. The US military is the most technologically advanced and well funded in the world by orders of magnitude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201217)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 1:49 AM
Author: slippery business firm elastic band

Literally no one in the Chinese "military" has been in combat before. Military shit is unreliable to begin with, but at least America is constantly using ours. Chinese shit -- built by the Chinese btw -- has literally never been used. Yeah they have a billion "people" -- 5'4" illiterate bugmen who eat garbage. LOL their "economy" is based on stealing shit and sending plastic baubles to America, they would be in a crippling depression on day one and the politburo would be pulled out of their palaces by the bugmen and cooked into fried rice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35201225)



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Date: January 21st, 2018 11:08 PM
Author: beta regret

One thing is certain, they would try to pee pee in our Coke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866036&forum_id=2#35207027)