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Any converaheros left on here who believe in civil liberties above nationalism?
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Date: January 21st, 2018 4:17 PM Author: Fuchsia mediation private investor Like Abdul can blow up Time Square or some illegal can rape all white girls named Becky, but the liberty of the 4th amendment still matters more than the life of any one individual. So illegal searches by CBP and ICE in subway stations, 7 Elevens, and bus stations is fucking outrageous government overreach and we should be doing everything in our power to keep big gov in check.
Conservaheros are principled about the 2nd amendment in spite of repeated mass shootings. Why can't they stick to their principles when it comes to the 4th amendment? |
Date: January 21st, 2018 4:19 PM Author: Mewling Sanctuary Gunner you're asking more if there are any radical (or "principled" if you insist) libertarians here. half of the shit youre talking about was pulled out of scouts' ass in the 60s, not the product of "conservahero" thought. HIE to reddit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866472&forum_id=2#35203872) |
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Date: January 21st, 2018 4:19 PM Author: glittery immigrant spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866472&forum_id=2#35203876) |
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Date: January 21st, 2018 4:21 PM Author: Fuchsia mediation private investor lol at radical belief that government is the enemy.
seems to be a convenient argument for gun bros |
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Date: January 21st, 2018 4:27 PM Author: Mewling Sanctuary Gunner you can't have anything approaching the 'economic nationalism' usually associated w trumpism while being completely anti-gov in the way that "principled" libertarians are. see e.g. a healthy level of strategic protectionism, the opposite of which is chaos GC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866472&forum_id=2#35203950) |
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Date: January 21st, 2018 4:20 PM Author: Motley Mexican Parlor *Twilight Zone theme begins playing* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866472&forum_id=2#35203884) |
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Date: January 21st, 2018 4:21 PM Author: Hairraiser maroon native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866472&forum_id=2#35203892) |
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Date: January 21st, 2018 4:20 PM Author: Spectacular Center Tattoo part of the lib goal in encouraging mass-immigration was to destroy those kinds of abstract norms, which can only really exist as matters of consensus within a particular population that has co-evolved with them. by importing outsiders, this implicit social contract is destroyed, and becomes increasingly absurd to try and maintain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866472&forum_id=2#35203885) |
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Date: January 21st, 2018 4:20 PM Author: glittery immigrant spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866472&forum_id=2#35203887) |
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Date: January 21st, 2018 4:24 PM Author: Mewling Sanctuary Gunner scalia's sicilian parents were from a place as backward and alien to enlightenment values as todays hispanics, but he became who he was. at the risk of sounding sympathetic to the julias of the workd, i think this is way more a function of the combination of "importing outsiders" AND actively discouraging assimilation and *becoming* insiders. people like michelle malkin are more than accepted in all right-wing circles out of legitimate alt-right. your poast is accurate as it relates to the consequences though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866472&forum_id=2#35203932) |
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Date: January 21st, 2018 4:43 PM Author: Spectacular Center Tattoo assimilate into what? that would require an overwhelming majority-group whose norms would be the enforceable standard of assimilation. part of the goal of mass-immigration is to destroy such norms at the root. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866472&forum_id=2#35204062) |
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Date: January 21st, 2018 4:54 PM Author: Ruddy idiot public bath Immigrants do still assimilate, but a lot of them assimilate to America's trashy underclass culture. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866472&forum_id=2#35204139) |
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Date: January 21st, 2018 5:16 PM Author: Mewling Sanctuary Gunner i agree that this is how it works in practice in mordern america, i'm just saying that the breakdown you're talking about isn't a necessary product of just immigration of the 'other,' but rather that plus a situation where inregration/assimilation is discouraged or otherwise functionally made impossible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866472&forum_id=2#35204286) |
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Date: January 21st, 2018 4:21 PM Author: Hairraiser maroon native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866472&forum_id=2#35203900) |
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Date: January 21st, 2018 4:22 PM Author: Fuchsia mediation private investor This board is a joke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866472&forum_id=2#35203905) |
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Date: January 21st, 2018 4:23 PM Author: Cobalt locale Conservatives never much cared for civil liberties, they were always authoritarian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866472&forum_id=2#35203924) |
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Date: January 21st, 2018 4:46 PM Author: slap-happy cerebral principal's office Both sides are authoritarian given enough power. Liberalism is the result of political plurality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3866472&forum_id=2#35204077) |
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Date: January 21st, 2018 4:47 PM Author: Nudist ceo I believe this, although I'm not sure I'm a conservahero. I never voted republican until Trump. I'm pro-choice as well. It's just that liberals have utterly lost it and they don't believe in civil liberties anymore either.
And if this is the world we live in, I want a hell of a lot of guns. |